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eat your hearts out BB lovers
« on: August 09, 2008, 07:31:36 PM »
Crank trigger installed ,SBF 408 stroker 2nd "lite up" (two sets of mufflers)  ;D
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2008, 07:54:18 PM »
And all I've got is this old Ford.   ;D

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2008, 08:17:02 PM »
Crank trigger installed ,SBF 408 stroker 2nd "lite up" (two sets of mufflers)  ;D

 Thats such a cute little thing !!!   When is that youngster going to buy a full sized boat and motor  >:D
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 08:39:29 AM »
Nice  :)

What are the spec's on it and what kind of boat is it in ?

Here's a pic of my Dad's 418 Windsor that going in his Hot Rod it will be on the dyno in a week or two:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/P8060861.jpg



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jet boat performance

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2008, 09:02:53 AM »
Nice  :)

What are the spec's on it and what kind of boat is it in ?

Here's a pic of my Dad's 418 Windsor that going in his Hot Rod it will be on the dyno in a week or two:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/P8060861.jpg

Sleeper CP  :)

Sleeper Tell Dad that things Killer  Josh will dig it ,These things make mad power and Massive torque ,Josh can chime in later but thats 408 cu Edlebrock heads HUGE valves , 11 to 1 Compression  , Comp Roller , shaft mtd rockers, Scat steel crank , Chevy H beam rods 950 Hp series ,Moroso Crank trigger with Crane dizzy,and Moroso vacuum pump ,This motors fresh (raised compression from around 9 and new style piston (with ring support) The previous 408 motor turned an A Impeller ,as I remember it 5100 (no NOS) Leaves so hard its Frightening ) "tire spin" just hooks up ,The boat is Josh's 16 ft Beezer, now it will have a B Hi-helix  to test Tom

« Last Edit: August 11, 2008, 09:16:19 AM by jet boat performance »
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2008, 11:14:38 AM »
Thats such a cute little thing !!!   When is that youngster going to buy a full sized boat and motor  >:D
Full size boats and motors weigh too much ;D

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2008, 11:53:30 AM »
Nice  :)

What are the spec's on it and what kind of boat is it in ?

Here's a pic of my Dad's 418 Windsor that going in his Hot Rod it will be on the dyno in a week or two:

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/P8060861.jpg

Sleeper CP  :)
Good Looking windsor! is that a Standard 302 tunnel ram or a boss?

My dad did a pretty good job covering the majority of the build.  This was the first time this engine was lit up with the crank trigger installed and that much initial timing (total locked out).  Now as I suspected, I got to go back and re set the carb, and change the throttle plates.  The carb came factory with .125" holes in each butterfly  which was perfect berfore, but now with this much timing the plates are practically seated against the throttle body with no transfer slot revealed at idle.

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2008, 11:59:42 AM »
So when's it gonna see Nostalgia Jet?  ;D
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2008, 12:42:07 PM »
Good Looking windsor! is that a Standard 302 tunnel ram or a boss?


Standard 302 with Price Motorsport adapter plates.  Since it's in a "street rod" and need to be very drivable, possiable prarade's and other lot's on slow pock driving I decided to play it safe. Not looking for max power good drivability and lots of trq. Somewhere North of 520 hp and North of 525 lbs ft.

I'll give you the #'s later but my 660 hp 409" Widsor made a good deal more power with a Victor Jr over the RPM Air Gap past 5,400 rpms. I'll get you the number a bit later.

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« Last Edit: August 11, 2008, 01:15:09 PM by Sleeper CP 19 »
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 09:41:40 AM »
This is going in a '35 Street Rod, but it could be a pretty nice boat engine. It came off the dyno on tuesday:



With dyno headers:





With Tri Y's:


We had a few issues with the T/R so we lost to much time to do a manifold swap. I wanted to run the RPM Air Gap as a compairison to see if the T/R is worth anything at these rpm's.

It has a somewhat mild hydrl. roller cam: .552 lift dur 224/232 @ .050 (283/290 adv) 114* lobe sep.

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« Last Edit: September 11, 2008, 09:45:02 AM by Sleeper CP 19 »
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 09:22:17 PM »
Very cool  ;D

I was suprised to see the HP increase & torque decrease with the Tri Y's. 

I used to work of Thorleys largest WD, and we were always told that the tri Y type headers were "better" for low end torque and that if you wanted better performance in the mid to upper rpm range go to a 4 into 1.
 
Was anything else changed besides the headers between runs?


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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2008, 10:44:04 PM »
Here's my 528 - temped to throw that in the boat


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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2008, 10:50:50 PM »
Very cool  ;D

I was suprised to see the HP increase & torque decrease with the Tri Y's. 

I used to work of Thorleys largest WD, and we were always told that the tri Y type headers were "better" for low end torque and that if you wanted better performance in the mid to upper rpm range go to a 4 into 1.
 
Was anything else changed besides the headers between runs?

Nothing else changed. We were a bit surprised also. These Tri Y's are 1 3/4"  and the dyno headers were 1 3/4" also. We are not sure what the deal is. The dyno owner has a 421 " sm/blk Chevy that he put a set of Tri Y's on  after he ran the dyno headers when it was on the dyno. His were 1 5/8" and they did as you would guess they would.

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2008, 11:10:45 PM »
422" Small Block Dodge.

Eldebrock heads, dual plane intake, Roller cam, 850 carb.

Made 560hp@5900 rpm.... and 580lbs @ 4400 rpm..... all on pump gas too

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2008, 12:22:58 AM »
 Here's my "small block" (3.4 L) .  It makes 300hp at 5300rpm, has 6 carbs, keeps the skeeters out of my yard, and sounds like a pack of sick dirt bikes  ::) .  Maybe it would run better with some zoomies and a big fiberglass scoop.   >:D

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2008, 12:25:35 AM »
Here's my "small block" (3.4 L) .  It makes 300hp at 5300rpm, has 6 carbs, keeps the skeeters out of my yard, and sounds like a pack of sick dirt bikes  ::) .  Maybe it would run better with some zoomies and a big fiberglass scoop.   >:D

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Oh yeah and a prop! :o ;D ;D ;D ;D

SSupp Proppy?
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2008, 12:37:26 AM »
Oh yeah and a prop! :o ;D ;D ;D ;D

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 Got one on the way !!!  ;D ;D >:D >:D
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2008, 12:51:30 AM »
Got one on the way !!!  ;D ;D >:D >:D

Still say a Badass small block and a jetpump would be more fon than a set of drunk 110# twins >:D

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2008, 01:06:23 AM »
Still say a Badass small block and a jetpump would be more fon than a set of drunk 110# twins >:D

 ;D

  :-\ :-\  Dont know about that one .   Who has to pay for fuel for the boat and how long would I get to play with the twins  ;D
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2008, 06:53:07 AM »
Still say a Badass small block and a jetpump would be more fon than a set of drunk 110# twins >:D

 ;D

Then you need a better imagination!
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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2008, 10:54:58 AM »
Still say a Badass small block and a jetpump would be more fon than a set of drunk 110# twins >:D

 ;D

Not if you have 12 hrs and a video camera to re-live it. I'd take the twins.  ;D   :o

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2008, 10:56:23 AM »
I would have to see the twins first!!!!!!
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2008, 10:58:56 AM »
I'm assumimg a minimum of 8 on the 1-10 scale.  ;)

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2008, 11:20:11 AM »
I would still have to se them first! The guy picking them out might have really bad taste in women!
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

speedymopars

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Re: eat your hearts out BB lovers
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2008, 11:49:01 AM »
Can't believe you guys are saying a small block jet is more fun than a pair of 110 lb twin poon tang. Can we move this discussion over to www.socaltrailriders.org where they like hanging with other guys, watching other guys asses for miles, and have other issues with female sluts?

I *know* I can have more fun with the twins - maybe I just have more practice or somethin'.... :-)
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