Haven't had that problem myself.  Went to the HP series after blowing apart standard Frams.  I have heard that the elements can collapse and plug the filter, but this would be obvious when you cut it open.

Have you or your engine builder plugged the filter bypass?  If no, unfiltered oil would bypass the plugged filter.

Do you have confidence in the accuracy of the gauge?

Any possibility of pump pickup issues?  Restricted?  Sucking air?

Windage?

Is it 40 PSI all the time?

Oil temp? What pan? How much oil,  what oil and weight?


Oh,  and Fram filters suck donkey nuts.

oil temp -to bearings 150
pan- 14 quart
dooley pan
21 quart total with cooler and filter and lines
weight oil 50

Oil temp should exceed 200°F and I think you have too much oil. JMO

I would drop the level to where it barely touches the stick and try it again. If that works,  cut the stick by that amount.

Also,  might invest in a quart of Lucas Stabilizer.

GT

Me personally I use Wix filters they are good for me and everything I own has a Wix filter on it.

Lots of stories about the Fram's like you've mentioned. How much truth to Fram being the issue is debatable so not sure what to believe.

I don't think Teague is running the Fram's any longer. At least the last few builds I've seen didn't have them. I believe I saw silver colored filters which makes me think Amsoil.

I would switch to a Wix Racing, Baldwin, Mobil1 or K&N and see if you get the same results.

If nothing changes I would try adding less oil. Could be a foaming issue and your crank slinging the oil. If still no changes make sure you have adequate windage. What oil pan are you running?

Who's 14 quart pan? A 14 quart pan does NOT hold 14 quarts...FYI.


The Fram filters don't "plug up", they have been known to collapse internally and restrict flow, I don't think the HP filters ever had the issue.


GT

They got the pan back on they said check my sending unit and change the oil filter. (I should of put a mechanical gauge on before i pulled the motor)
 
They said everything looked good.

And as i said they said they have seen problems with filters causing low oil pressure.

Her is the filter i run i dont see how it could clog the ports are so big.

DO they make a Wix filter this size.

 Yes Wix makes a filter that size. They actually make two, #57003R and #51222R.   NAPA Gold filters are the same filter through the NAPA brand and use the same part numbers (#57003R and #51222R), might be easier to find.  Both of these are bypass filters just like the Fram you used. http://www.wixfilters.com/Speciality/Racing.aspx#cross

 The issue with the Fram is not the size of the holes. Its the filter element its self. The pleats of the filter will fold over and lay flat reducing its ability to flow any useful amount of oil. The HP6A Fram is a bypass filter so it shouldn't collapse the filter like it does with their non bypass filters, but it can drastically reduce the filters flow. The filters bypass opens with a 22 psi difference between incoming and outgoing oil at the filter.  So if the filter plugged up or folded the pleats, and you where putting 60 psi of oil pressure to the filter, the bypass wouldn't open till your oil pressure back to the engine was down to 38 psi.

 With a remote mounted bypass filter like these and the oil cooler you should not be using a block mounted bypass. The pressure loss from all that external plumbing can activate the block mounted bypass and the oil will bypass the filter and cooler. You do not want it bypassing the cooler, so no block mounted bypass. 


 And I kinda have to agree with GT and rivrrts429. "21 quart total with cooler and filter and lines" sounds like to much oil. I cant see a cooler, lines, and filter holding 7 quarts of oil.


 Oh and GT, he stated his oil temp was 150 to the bearings, that would be after the cooler so no way to know if the oil is to cool or not.

 Oh and GT, he stated his oil temp was 150 to the bearings, that would be after the cooler so no way to know if the oil is to cool or not.

After the cooler that could be experiencing reduced flow.  Is that where you're going?

Agreed.

I just had eye surgery, so I probably didn't read that as thoroughly as I should have.

50 weight oil is 50 weight at 212°F, anything colder,  oil be thicker. FYI.

the oil comes out of the block goes into the cooler than the filter i take the temp off the oil filter housing before it goes back to the block.

Been running this set up ever since i built the boat.

The shop called and said they put 5 quart of oil in it and it had 80 lbs with a primmer.

Just going to pick up the motor put it in the boat hook up a mechanical oil gauge and see what happens.

And i guess go to local lake and make some laps

Is there even the slightest chance the filter is plumbed backwards?

It was good talking with you brother.

the oil comes out of the block goes into the cooler than the filter i take the temp off the oil filter housing before it goes back to the block.

Been running this set up ever since i built the boat.

The shop called and said they put 5 quart of oil in it and it had 80 lbs with a primmer.

Just going to pick up the motor put it in the boat hook up a mechanical oil gauge and see what happens.

And i guess go to local lake and make some laps

 In my opinion, your plumbing is wrong.  It should go from the block, to the filter, to the cooler, then back to the block.  Here are few reasons to put the filter first.....

 1. Its way easier to get 50wt oil through a filter when its still hot. By cooling the oil to 150 deg then sending it to the filter, its like trying to force gear oil through a paint strainer. You have a way higher chance of the filter going into bypass and sending unfiltered oil back to the engine when trying to filter cold oil.

 2.  Your temp sensor on the filter will give you more accurate idea of how hot your oil is actually getting.

 3. With the filter first, at least it has a chance to keep anything bad out of the cooler.

After the cooler that could be experiencing reduced flow.  Is that where you're going?

Agreed.

I just had eye surgery, so I probably didn't read that as thoroughly as I should have.

50 weight oil is 50 weight at 212°F, anything colder,  oil be thicker. FYI.

 Not really where I was going but a good point too.  What I was getting at is with the temp being read after the cooler we have no idea how hot the oil is in the pan.  Might actually be up to temp. Would all depend on how efficient to cooler is and how its plumbed (cold water or dump water).
 I'm sure after reading how this thing is plumbed (out of block, cooler, filter, return to block) and 150 deg oil at the filter, you will agree he should not be trying to filter 150 deg 50 wt oil in any kind of volume.  That cooler needs to be after the filter.  High RPM/high oil flow volume and 150 deg 50 wt oil trying to go through a filter is not a good thing.

I disagree you want the oil going thru the filter last before the motor. So the filter can do its job.
if you go into the filter first and then the cooler if the cooler come apart for any reason the debris goes into the motor.

You dont want to no the temp in the pan its crazy hot i take readings right before the oil goes back to the block so you no the oil temp hitting the bearings

I disagree. Filter first, just like GM intended.

If the oil is cold it's super thick. You filter the hottest oil possible. The routing should be; filter,  cooler,  block.

The only way you can do it your way is to ditch the pleated filter and go to an Oberg screen.

If your cooler comes apart,  you have much larger issues than a filter.

Add to the that,  the pressure pulses will be tamed by the filter making life much easier on the cooler. It's the hydraulic signature of the oil pump that normally destroys the coolers.

Just my personal opinion, but I totally agree with propless on this one.

And if the oil is as hot as you indicate in the pan,  that's an issue also,  anything past 240°~250°F and you have a bubble bath. Drop the level in the pan an inch and tell me what happens. Seen it dozens of time myself.

Filter first and drop the level, I bet the drama stops.

Good catch proppy.

GT

This is the way BOB at Teague does it.