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jamminjetta

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Getting hot
« on: August 12, 2014, 02:42:34 PM »
Hi I'm wade. I'm having problems with getting hot. 87 carrera eagle ,454 ,12jg , logs and snails. Just put in new impeller and wear ring. Noticed its steaming from exhaust and logs are real hot to touch.
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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2014, 03:29:06 PM »
Hi I'm wade. I'm having problems with getting hot. 87 carrera eagle ,454 ,12jg , logs and snails. Just put in new impeller and wear ring. Noticed its steaming from exhaust and logs are real hot to touch.

Love to help you out. A little more information is needed.

Had it always run hot?

Are you running t-stat?

Is there any sort of valve in the system?

How its it plumbed?

How hot we talking?

GT

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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2014, 03:42:23 PM »
No thermostat , don't know how hot. Temp sender will be here in the morning. 1 valve in supply hose. All the way open.hotter than it usually gets.  Noticing lots of steam ,snails are to hot to touch. Just rebuilt pump and replaced imp and wear ring.


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2014, 04:50:12 PM »
No thermostat , don't know how hot. Temp sender will be here in the morning. 1 valve in supply hose. All the way open.hotter than it usually gets.  Noticing lots of steam ,snails are to hot to touch. Just rebuilt pump and replaced imp and wear ring.


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snails will get very warm and some stream is normal.
Get the gage going and shoot a number at us.

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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2014, 05:14:48 PM »
Steam is normal.  Snails are always smokin' hot from the git go.  Logs should not be hot, just barely warm if engine is running.  Is this a noticeable change, or are you just now noticing these aspects of a new to you boat?
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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2014, 05:21:54 PM »
Bought it last year. I'm just noticing it though. Just rebuilt pump last week


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2014, 05:35:26 PM »
hi, i read either somewhere on here or on another jet boat forum about someone having a similar issue.  i dont remember if he  specified if he had recently rebuilt pump....however...he did have an overheating issue.  turns out he had a small pebble/rock stuck in one of his valves.  he found it after troubleshooting...process of elimination...  said pebble restricted water flow enough to cause it to run hot.  could be worth a look... :-\

or.....maybe now that your pump is fresh and tight, motor works a little harder, runs a tad hotter, and its become noticeable to you.... that be my guess (not sure if this would apply)...especially if youre running just as hard as before pump rebuild.
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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2014, 05:47:02 PM »
Holeshot is greater but top end is about the same. Guess logs could have sand in them.


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2014, 06:02:08 PM »
yeah, from what i hear...hole shot is imporved....top speed is fairly consistent....with a few lower revs, depending on how much it was slipping before.
i havent read about sand getting into logs/snails....but i wont say it isnt possible! 
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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2014, 07:35:26 PM »
Do you wash out your block every season? I get at least a coffee cup+ full of sand every season. You shouldnt run your gate valve all the way open on a chevy or olds but ford is okay.

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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2014, 08:52:59 PM »
I just pulled both drain cocks and got out a little sand but not a whole lot.


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2014, 07:17:23 AM »
You have to jam a straw or wire in the drain as you turn the water on/off for some time to even get close to getting some of it out. The water will just pass over the sand as its running but soon as you turn it off the sand will go towards drain.

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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2014, 07:09:43 PM »
Well I hooked up a mechanical temp gauge and went and drove boat really hard and only got it up to 190. I guess I'm happy for now.


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2014, 07:49:32 PM »
How warm is the water your running in an how far do you have the valve open. You should be able to have that valve at 3/4 with temps a bit lower.

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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2014, 08:20:50 PM »
Waay too hot... Did you ever get any pictures of the set up?

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Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2014, 08:33:43 PM »
Oh crap. Not happy


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Getting hot
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2014, 06:15:35 AM »
Here are a couple of pics. Not the best but maybe they will help. These are for you gt


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2014, 06:17:57 AM »
Stuck in Oklahoma on this drilling rig. All I can think about is days off.


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2014, 05:03:57 PM »
Ok since my gauge had never worked what temp should my engine be running.


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2014, 01:57:27 PM »
Ok since my gauge had never worked what temp should my engine be running.


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With the pictures you provided, balls out, I would be comfortable saying in the 120° to 150°F range, at idle, never more than 160°F.

My opinion, your results may vary...

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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2014, 04:13:01 PM »
When I get home I'll try getting more sand outta the water jacket. Guess I'll try the zip tie in the drain holes on each side of the block. Any more suggestions?


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 12:12:27 PM »
Well I've been flushing my block out with a garden hose. Got more sand out but not a whole lot. Guess I'm gonna go to the lake and see what kinda temp I have. I run a zip tie in the drain holes seemed like I got more sand out that way.


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2014, 12:22:55 PM »
Maybe u did this already but unhook the inlet to the block hook up your hose and make sure that it is not restricted first.
Also how does the oil look?  I mean the water is coming out the exhaust right and not restricted on the exit?
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Getting hot
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2014, 01:01:04 PM »
No restrictions anywhere that I can tell. I ran water every direction through the block. Water comes out both exhaust evenly. Oil looks good. 


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Re: Getting hot
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2014, 01:15:04 PM »
Could there be a restriction from the pump to the block inlet
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