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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2008, 12:55:00 PM »
Well, I decided to pull the top of the carb off to check the float setting, remember, this carb has only been installed for about a month and less than 5 gallons of gas pumped through it, new gas in freshly cleaned tanks and all new fuel lines and 3 filters between the carb and the fuel tanks.  Here's what I found in the bowls when I pulled the top off.


Notice the corrosion in the bottom of the bowls with the gas in.  I wouldn't think a brand new carb would have this problem.


Better view now that the gas has been drained out and the bowls allowed to dry.  You can see what looks like varnish in the bottom of the bowls.  I don't think 5 gallons of gas would do this in just a short period of time.  Shell premium gas at that.


Some of the gunk that I scraped out of the bottom of one of the bowls.  Could it be that Summit sold me a reconditioned or returned/used carb as a new one?
 
Bowl floats were at the right adjustments.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2008, 12:57:59 PM »
Are you running a fuel filter?
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2008, 12:59:48 PM »
Are you running a fuel filter?

3 of them!!  One from each tank and another at the carb.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #28 on: July 19, 2008, 01:01:10 PM »
well that crap couldnt of gotten thru 3 filters....I would be giving Summit a call and tell them your concerns and see what they are willing to do for you
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #29 on: July 19, 2008, 01:10:22 PM »
well that crap couldnt of gotten thru 3 filters....I would be giving Summit a call and tell them your concerns and see what they are willing to do for you

I sent them email and photos.  They can see my concerns better than me trying to tell them over the phone.  I also sent the photos to Edlebrock and y concerns with Summit.  I'll hook up to the hose in an hour or so and see if NOW I can get it to idle.  I may pour some carb cleaner in the bowls and cycle that through after it's had a few minutes to soak.  Hell, this could have been my idle problem all along.  It was a bugger to adjust to start with.  Might even make timing it more accurate.   Thanks for the suggestion to call, but I am now pissed off and on top of it.  I'll let you know what comes of this.  This is BS if they did sell me a used carb as a new one.  Not very good advertisement for them, and I thought they were great.  Maybe this was just an error and they'll make it right.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2008, 01:55:35 PM »
hey greg=sorry to here all your problems=will be at camp far west sunday at 1/4 mile cove if you want to do some testing and such=will be checking new fuel delivery set up on the southwind and my kid will be out with his youngblood trying his new ignition setupwe can all have a big fix it party--yeehaw
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #31 on: July 19, 2008, 03:28:45 PM »
hey greg=sorry to here all your problems=will be at camp far west sunday at 1/4 mile cove if you want to do some testing and such=will be checking new fuel delivery set up on the southwind and my kid will be out with his youngblood trying his new ignition setupwe can all have a big fix it party--yeehaw

Well, I'm going to pull it out so I can hook a hose up and see if I can get it to run here at home before I drive out there.  May just go to Discovery Park when I go out.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2008, 10:56:07 AM »
Well, I got the crap cleaned out the best I could.  Squirted carb cleaner in and wiped out the bowls several times and put it back together.  Pulled out so I could hook up a hose, turn on the water, reset the idle adjustment needles to 2 1/2 turns out and hit the throttle a few times to get the gas back into the carb and it fired.  Turned the idle screw on the throttle linkage out and now have it idling at 800  RPMs instead of 1100.  Now I can fire it up at the turn of the key, when warm.  No choke.  I'm still going to make Summit replace the carb with a NEW one.  I hope to get to the river tomorrow or the next day.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2008, 03:24:39 PM »
You'll probably have to get Edelbrock to issue Summit a return credit.  When we had oil pan issues Summit pretty much said, "It ain't my dog"  cause it can't be the pan.....  no refund.

When we got Milodon to step in we got the refund.  I'll be surprised if Summit stands behind it.

Let us know how you make out and good luck.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM »
Well, I've spent a lot of money with Summit over the past several months so I feel pretty confident in them but I'll let you know what happens.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2008, 03:42:53 PM »
That's alot of garbage in the carb :o

Summit is very good at putting it back to the manufacturer, check your invoice to see if it notes the serial number which would have been printed on the box the carb came in bu the upc code, I had an issue with three MSD boxes that all had a problem with what they called "infant mortality"(MSD 6AL) and they sent me to MSD, they (MSD) took the boxes back and had them analyzed and sent me three new boxes the next week, Summit said it was because the manufactures warranty is "honored" through Summit, but if I deal with the Manufacturer  directly, they would take care of any shipping.

Your problem seems like a individual store problem and would see if the carb serial number you have has been previously purchased, if your invoice has a serial number on it, this should be really easy to track, sometimes the stores get inventory from other branches, and that may be a problem. Let us know how it turns out, I don't think Edelbrock will do anything at all, but send them an E-mail anyway, they may make a phone call in your defense, especially if you tell them that you like their products and use them often, there is no way it could hurt (besides they might send you a T-shirt or something).
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #36 on: July 20, 2008, 03:57:08 PM »
That's alot of garbage in the carb :o

Summit is very good at putting it back to the manufacturer, check your invoice to see if it notes the serial number which would have been printed on the box the carb came in bu the upc code, I had an issue with three MSD boxes that all had a problem with what they called "infant mortality"(MSD 6AL) and they sent me to MSD, they (MSD) took the boxes back and had them analyzed and sent me three new boxes the next week, Summit said it was because the manufactures warranty is "honored" through Summit, but if I deal with the Manufacturer  directly, they would take care of any shipping.

Your problem seems like a individual store problem and would see if the carb serial number you have has been previously purchased, if your invoice has a serial number on it, this should be really easy to track, sometimes the stores get inventory from other branches, and that may be a problem. Let us know how it turns out, I don't think Edelbrock will do anything at all, but send them an E-mail anyway, they may make a phone call in your defense, especially if you tell them that you like their products and use them often, there is no way it could hurt (besides they might send you a T-shirt or something).


This kind of stuff always happens on the week-end so you have to wait until Monday or Tuesday to hear anything back.  I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #37 on: July 20, 2008, 04:01:44 PM »
I can't believe you just posted that, I literally just said that to my wife about the little fan that took a dump in my refrigerator today :D
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Re: Troubleshooting Help Requested
« Reply #38 on: July 20, 2008, 04:04:12 PM »
I can't believe you just posted that, I literally just said that to my wife about the little fan that took a dump in my refrigerator today :D

Well it's true, nothing happens during the week unless it's after closing time and then you have to wait until the next day anyway.   :banghead:  Good luck on the fan, atleast nothing of mine can spoil for lack of refrigeration.  Go get some dry ice, and some beer while you're at the store.   ;)
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