How did you run your Water and fuel lines (PICS)?

« **on:** July 09, 2010, 12:08:35 PM »

Thought I would try to gather in one place pics of water line and fuel line install pics. I liked the MOO pictures elsewhere and several others a they showed really clean installs and some ideas on why they ran them that way. I am considering hard plumb (effect on diameter and flow) or going to stainles flex lines (ala my washer at home) as it would seem that a good leak or burst hose might sink my boat if the sump pumps cannot keep up. After some stories on this site it seems like this might be one of my most important first upgardes for safety/reliability.

Here is what I am starting with...

« **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2010, 05:36:45 PM »

Moo!?! Hell thats a hack job comparatively to whats around on here!

She's getting completely redone when the engines ready to go back in!

I'd look closely at Boost's setup, just don't get any cleaner than that! I'm having a complete brain fart on who did the solid S/S lines on his SBC.......Bitchen!!

Gave him a Bassett T-Valve too! Shit alzheimers is fun! PM HDriderTH (or better yet, Rivermamma, she's the real photo taker) for pics of his setup on his flatty. A lot of both solid and braided on it that looks awesome! TJSNordic's is just off the hook nuts! But then, none of us have a CNC manufacturing facility in our garages either....

What's wrong with your setup? Looks pretty clean to me other than I think I would run the hoses from the water outlet down to the stringers and then back up to the snails. They look a lil close to the log flanges to me for regular heater hose than I'd be comfortable with, but they're probably factory run that way maybe? Otherwise, looks fine.

Gimme a minute and I'll snap some of my Pickle boat (No siggy's guys....). Pretty clean for an original install with logs using all braided. Should be very close to what you're dealing with.

Ray

HA! Remembered! Sandeggo did all the hard lines!

I AM CURED!!!!!!!

« **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2010, 05:59:04 PM »

Here ya go. Just had a thought doing it too, Crewcheifs set up is nearly identical to mine, a lot more power, but even cleaner yet!

Ray

« **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2010, 06:32:40 PM »

Just a couple. No I do not have a CNC in my garage. I wish.

« **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2010, 07:49:03 PM »

some pics

« **Reply #5 on:** July 10, 2010, 07:55:15 AM »

Covered my cables as well...

« **Reply #6 on:** July 10, 2010, 08:11:30 AM »

that cable covering is a great idea

« **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2010, 08:00:50 PM »

Nice! The hard plumb jobs reminds me of stuff I sued to do years ago in another life. Those ook like parker fittings or swagelok and ss tubing. Hmmm. Wonder where my bender is ?

Actually, I think I will still go stainless braid this fall when it cools off. I was out doing some maintenance on the boat until about 2 pm and came in as I was pretty hot. CHecked the thermometer and it was 112. Sheesh, time to head for th lake!

« **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:00:27 AM »

Quote from: sandeggo on July 10, 2010, 08:11:30 AM

that cable covering is a great idea

I love the look of the hard lines

« **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:54:38 AM »

Now thats how ya do it son

« **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2010, 09:29:43 PM »

Quote from: oldmxdog61u on July 10, 2010, 08:00:50 PM

Nice! The hard plumb jobs reminds me of stuff I sued to do years ago in another life. Those ook like parker fittings or swagelok and ss tubing. Hmmm. Wonder where my bender is ?

Actually, I think I will still go stainless braid this fall when it cools off. I was out doing some maintenance on the boat until about 2 pm and came in as I was pretty hot. CHecked the thermometer and it was 112. Sheesh, time to head for th lake!

it's a mix of swagelok and ham-lok fittings, they're identical and interchangeable. The tube is 1/2" seamless 304 .035 wall. It runs about 3.50/ft locally for me. Waaaay cheaper than braided and AN fittings. It'll last longer as well. This winter I might have them all polished

« **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:17:47 PM »

1/2 in ss about the same dia as 5/8 hose then

I may have some ss in my barn from the old days. I remember making canoe handles out of ss micropolish and vcr fitngs. Because I could. Dang... if I had half the stuff I thredw away back in those days. I like the hard plump from a cost perspective too. The ss flex looks pricey. Tx foe pics...I am motivated finally

« **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2010, 10:26:16 PM »

The ss tube is rated on the outside diameter, so subtract wall thickness and it's less than 1/2" but it has no problems keeping my motor cool. With hardline i bet the water flows easier anyways. The cheapest I could find braided locally was about 7 bucks a ft and the fitting wouldve cost me a arm and a leg.

« **Reply #13 on:** July 13, 2010, 04:53:12 AM »

I have done stainless hard line but used a 37 degree Parker flaring tool. Then you can buy the AN tube fittings with the little collar it comes with. You can get tube fittings at summit with a choice of a few colors too. If you are flaring you need to make sure you get annealed stainless which is available at mcmaster.com.
T.J.

« **Reply #14 on:** July 13, 2010, 07:04:46 AM »

I used some aluminum hard line for my Bassett t. I just epoxied the little collor ends on 'cause the flaring tool marked up the tube and I couldnt get close to the bends.

« **Reply #15 on:** July 13, 2010, 07:15:19 AM »

Quote from: TJS Nordic on July 13, 2010, 04:53:12 AM

I have done stainless hard line but used a 37 degree Parker flaring tool. Then you can buy the AN tube fittings with the little collar it comes with. You can get tube fittings at summit with a choice of a few colors too. If you are flaring you need to make sure you get annealed stainless which is available at mcmaster.com.
T.J.

in my opinion flaring adds alot more labor

« **Reply #16 on:** July 13, 2010, 11:31:04 AM »

swaging (ie swagelok, parker etc) is easy and does not require an additional tool. You can use a fitting to pre swage the fitting to the stainless. then you simply connect to the fitting (pipe to swage). These are a type of common compression fittings. Thanks for reminding me of this option. I am thinking lake water would be easy on the fitting/tubing and should work fine... if I can find my spiffy bender and remember the math.
Ha! Right.

« **Reply #17 on:** July 13, 2010, 10:46:58 PM »

Math, screw that. Just eyeball it like I did.

« **Reply #18 on:** July 14, 2010, 01:22:35 AM »

When ya figure it out Bruce, I'm gonna drop Moo off and you can do her too!

Wait, that didn't sound good at ALL given this sites history........

Ray

« **Reply #19 on:** July 14, 2010, 10:06:58 AM »

Ray-
if I get my ship together I will gladly help you do Moo. Make a schematic of what fittings you need or want and approximate tubing lengths and I can add it to my order.
I need to put together a parts list and identify a local upplier that is reasonable on the ss fittings and tubing, then order those in. Once I have the materials, I can do it easy, although I still cannot find my 1/2 tube bender so I will have to buy another.

Right now slammed at work so this wil probably wait until it cools off a bit as I dont work so well in the sun over 110f.

« **Reply #20 on:** July 14, 2010, 10:48:11 AM »

I don't blame ya. A little cooler today so I finally cut down one orange tree in the backyard this morning. Now I can get a few of these boats in the backyard, Moo included, so I can get my Saguaro into the garage and get on it. Hopefully today!

Not really gonna be a hot rod, but should be a fun boat! I'm kinda aiming it at being the "family" boat, we can all use out here and we can keep it at my Unc's place in Scottsdale. (He lives a few minutes from Saguaro and Bartlett lakes). Most of Moo's current plumbing will be robbed for that build. Moo's just gonna be done different this time. 4 pt mounts, JG split bowl on her JE pump, Cav plates (It has the recesses, just wasn't rigged with them) I could go on.

I'll get with you on the hard lines, it's how it's gotta be done this time. Right now, Moo's engine is at the shop. Gonna be a couple weeks before they can get to it for pressure checking, etc. I expect the block is fine, the C9 heads I got for it will be sent out for port work, dunno where this time, Maybe Lakesonly has some free time....... (Ralph shamed me into not using the D2's on it this time around). Still not real sure what it's gonna look like at this point, but E-85 and blown/injected might well be in the mix on it! Poor lil things been a good sport about all this, gotta toss some more ponies in it.....

The "Damn Cow Boat" isn't going away boys!

Ray

« **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2010, 12:34:03 PM »

fwiw- headin to bartlett sunday morning...

« **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2010, 12:40:39 PM »

you gonna be out all day, we are heading out probably around 9 or 10

thread jack over

« **Reply #23 on:** July 14, 2010, 12:56:54 PM »

8am or so till 1 or so depending on how hot it gets and how @uch fuel we burnnnnnnn

« **Reply #24 on:** July 14, 2010, 12:59:24 PM »

stop by for a soda if you see us, we will be in my kachina (white w/blue flames) would be nice to meet some more people from the site

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