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Re: starter noise!
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2009, 05:22:39 PM »
Its absolutely in the right place!
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Re: starter noise!
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2009, 07:23:18 PM »
This is a standard starter for a 260 HP 350 Chevy from OMC, this one has seen some action  ;D



The little decal is the SAE J1171 label I have mentioned before.



Once opened up the differences are fairly apparent, note the plate blocking off the bendix area from the armature...



The plate and the silicone are all that would be absent from a non marine dealio, some starter drive housings do not have the threaded holes for the plate, some can be drilled and tapped, I have also seen them pop rivited, they suck, I think these are reman. units...



Here are just the plate, Bendix (which has to be removed to add/remove the plate) which is just threaded off after removing the retaining clip and washers.




Hope you find this helpful, sorry for the ugly ass starter...

While its apart, make sure and grease up the threaded portion of the shaft for the Bendix, also a little grease in the rear bearing, these bearings should be clean and free of excess wear, check and make sure the spring steel on the brushes is in good shape and fairly free of rust...

GT

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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: starter noise!
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2009, 11:38:54 PM »
My first post didn't stick  :banghead:

Anyways...

To take the starter apart.

1. Remove from the engine, closely inspecting the drive housing and bolts for distortion. Obviously after disconnecting the electrical.

2. Remove the screw on the end of the electrode of the solenoid going through the copper straps on the starter motor (5/16" hex).

3. Remove the two mounting screws holding the solenoid to the drive housing (5/16" hex) and rotate the solenoid 45* and pull off,careful of the spring on the plunger.

4. Remove the small snap ring on the hinge point of the bellcrank from the housing and slide out the pin.

5. Remove the two bolts at the rear plate of the motor (5/16" hex) and take the rear plate off, then slide the stator off the armature, the brushes will stay in the stator.

6. If it has the arc plate, remove the two screws from the housing and remove the armature from the drive housing (otherwise, not).

7. Slide the armature and bendix out of the drive housing  (the arc plate will stay with the armature), and pull away the snap ring cover to reveal the snap ring, expand (gently) the snap ring and remove, then rotate the bendix and fiber washer off of the shaft.


Now you are ready to clean up and inspect the starter for problems, lube up moving parts and reassemle, be sure to closely inspect the bendix and the springs on the brushes (they break when rusty because they are just spring steel).

Also look for an exessively worn bellcrank for the bendix, the poles on the crank should be very round with no major flat spots (this is what determines how far the bendix will go to the flywheel). it can be flipped 180* but I don't recommend it...

Both end bearings should fit fit fairly snug too, always use a dab of lube. Don't forget the fiber washer in the rear.

Pay attention to how many shims (if any) were in the bendix end and the mounting surface, the only time shims will be used for making the bendix line up right is when the drivehousing or the block have been machined (read reman. starter.)

Gear reduction starters are pretty good these days and are really not that much dough, a side benifit is they take less CCA than a conventional starter so sometimes it's the way to go, they make a marine version of those too...

Good luck

GT
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Ray

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Re: starter noise!
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2009, 03:05:18 PM »
THANKS FOR ALL THE INFO EXTREMELY HEPLFUL

MIKE
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