Modern Ford motors

« **Reply #25 on:** December 31, 2010, 08:50:41 PM »

Thanks Tom, I would be interested in seeing a shot of the front mount if possible. I've seen the HEI style ignition kits, as well as ones that mount to the front of one of the valve covers, and MSD makes a module that will run the factory coil on plug system without using the factory computer.

There was a company called Karkraft that sold alot of cool parts for the 4.6 and 5.4 motors. Adapters that allowed the use of SBF intakes, blower (671) manifolds, ignition systems, duel carb upper manifolds that used the stock lowers (like what you refereed to). They had tons of cool stuff, but I think there gone now. Cant find them anymore, but I do see some of the stuff on Ebay once and awhile.
A pic of there duel carb upper manifold, just saw one on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-5-4-CARBURETED-MODULAR-LINCOLN-8V-MANIFOLD-/390274629263?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5ade2e3e8f

And the intake adapters http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-4-6-MODULAR-CARBURETED-INTAKE-MANIFOLD-/320630773195?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa71555cb
A single carb upper manifold http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-5-4-CARBURETED-MODULAR-LINCOLN-4V-MANIFOLD-/320634459939?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4aa74d9723

« **Reply #26 on:** January 02, 2011, 05:12:58 PM »

a 32v 5.4 supercharged engine could easily put you in the 600+ hp range. however do you REALLY want to put this huge freakin thing in your boat? along with all the associated gear, fuel pumpS, etc?

im a big fan of mustangs, ive owned 4 and i love them in cars, i just dont think they're great for boating. my 4.6 and 5.4 in my truck are really tall and wide engines... they also dont like moisture down in the plug holes.

« **Reply #27 on:** January 02, 2011, 06:21:00 PM »

Nope, dont want to put that in a boat. I want to put this in a boat

Everyone knows, real blowers have teeth on the belts, not grooves. And be careful, it looks like someone chopped part of your valve cover off there bud.

Also, sense I dont need a waterpump, and I can run a alt off the back of the motor. I could get rid of all that ugly serpentine belt stuff.

« **Reply #28 on:** January 02, 2011, 06:41:23 PM »

As you can see from the photo, Proppy, Ralph and Brad have already looked into the 685 pump gas HP available from a "small" Ford big block.

« **Reply #29 on:** January 02, 2011, 07:09:57 PM »

A V 12 ?? I WANT ONE !!!!!!

How about a 427ci DOHC V10.

To bad they kept it out of production.

« **Reply #30 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:25:12 AM »

Well guys, the "donor car" arrived on the tow truck tonight.

It started right up and idled nice, no funny noises. It had a slight miss when revving it but at any constant rpm its smooth. Too bad the transmition is bad, would have been nice to let it have a nice big final smokey burnout before stripping it. I started pulling the useless stuff off the motor and found a few possible causes for the miss, lots of rotting old vacuum fittings, a cracked/broken connector on one of the coil packs, and the plastic intake tube the connects the mass air meter to the throttle body wasnt on right (bad rubber gasket that was half way out of place). Its a wonder the damn thing ran as good as it did.
Dirty and unloved, sad, because I always liked these cars. Bad trans, bad air ride, bad paint. Previous owner is a coworker, I helped him change the trans (he bought a used one) a few months ago, it lasted one week. I guess that was the last straw for him, he sold it to me for less than he paid for the used trans.

The mighty (

) 4 cam 4.6 Dammmnnn these things are HUGE !!! Should have it out and on a stand Sunday afternoon. Billy (ironman) is coming over to help, and I'm sure he'll tell me I'm crazy, again.

Very strange cooling system routing, cant even see where the lower radiator hose is going to yet (looks to be going somewhere down low on the drivers side of the engine,

). This is definitely going to take some creative thinking.

« **Reply #31 on:** January 23, 2011, 08:52:43 AM »

Gee, if it works out well you may create a whole new market for boat engines

I think the torque will be it's down fall. I hope not though, I'm rooting for you

« **Reply #32 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:39:04 AM »

Hey Proppy that is exactly where the lower hose is. when you find the oil filter you have found the lower water hose, they share the same area on the "block" they should be on a removable cast piece.

« **Reply #33 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:32:17 AM »

proppy,

Your whack!........

It's hard enough to get the '70's chit to work.....

Good luck bro

GT

« **Reply #34 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:43:01 PM »

im so pumped about the 2 modern motor threads,

THIS IS TRUE HOT RODDING

« **Reply #35 on:** January 23, 2011, 06:39:47 PM »

With help from Billy we got the "Baby Cammer" out of there.

And we pulled it out from the top without having to cut the car apart. Only had to resort to the sawzall for the exhaust ( it was easier than pulling the steering). Driver side exhaust manifold had the cat built into it and wrapped around the steering. Cooling system is definitely strange on these things. Like SuperJet posted, the lower hose goes into the driver side of the block near the front, looks like there is a passage that flows the water from there to the back of the water pump. It also had a strange remote thermostat housing with 4 hoses going to it, one from the lower radiator, one to the block, one from the crossover at the heads, and one to a remote chamber with the filler cap/radiator cap. I think this will work out nice, I can run water into the block on the side, remove and block off the water pump (thats going to take some work), then just make some dump fittings up at the front of the heads where the factory crossover tube was. Should end up looking good/uncluttered.
Of course once it was on a stand and the rest of the useless stuff was removed I had to set a blower on it just to see what it would look like.

Its is BIG !!! Thats my old 460 sitting next to it.

The 460 is roughly 25" wide, this thing is 29", but the 460 is longer.

The "Baby Cammer"

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