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Nordic19

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need help with cam and valve train
« on: May 15, 2015, 08:51:39 AM »
I am Rebuilding my 460 and I do not know what cam and valve train to order this is what I have so far.

Ford truck block bored to 4.40
stock crank ground .010
dove heads with hardened seats stock valve size stainless
clevite  cle-cb818hn10 rod bearings
clevite ms1039p10  Main bearings
sealed power h418cp40 Pistons
sealed power e-296k40 rings
closes billet 9-3522x9 timing set
arp 154-7903 oil pump drive shaft
Melling Mel-m84Dhv oil pump
ford racing FMS-m-6003-a429 gasket set
Felpro ms96018 Valley pan
Ford Racing M6200a75 stock length rods
Edelbrock 2166 intake
Holley 750 Dp Carb
Stock fuel pump
Armando’s racing 312 10qt Oil pan and pick-up


Boat 1978 nordic 19’ mini day cruiser jet boat

Jet pump
Berkeley 12JG
with bronze AA impeller jetboat performance Shimmed perfect
Inducer on shaft
Jetboat performance sportsman bowl
stock intake grate
hydraulic place diverter
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86caribbean

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Re: need help with cam and valve train
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2015, 12:42:00 PM »
It doesn't look like your after anything too serious, if your on somewhat of a tight budget a hydraulic flat tappet cam would work out fine or if you have a little more to spend get a hydraulic roller. As far as spec's if your after a bit of a loapy idle and all round good performance perhaps a lift in the range of .500-.550 and duration @ .050 of 235-245 and lobe sepatation in the 110-112 range. Cams in this range can spin up to 6,000+rpm, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say your engine may see a max rpm of 4,800-5,200. I have had good luck with products from Comp Cams, they have everything you need as far as all lengths of hardened push rods, guide plates, springs, locks, retainers and nice roller rockers of different styles to fit your need and budget...good luck.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2015, 12:46:16 PM by 86caribbean »
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crewchief22

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Re: need help with cam and valve train
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2015, 07:52:15 PM »
I would highly recommend returning the FelPro valley pan type intake manifold gasket. 

Edelbrock shows:  Recommended intake gasket: Edelbrock #7224 or Fel-Pro #1247.

Generally you don't want to use the valley pan with an aluminum manifold.

As for the cam and valve train, I'll leave that to the Ford guys.

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Nordic19

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Re: need help with cam and valve train
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2015, 08:59:30 PM »
Not really any budget, I had a 21 foot beisemeyer day cruiser with a mild 454 and je-a that was super fun would max out at 60 mph at 4900rpm so I was trying to get the nordic in the 55-60mph range with turn key reliability so I am hoping to end up in the 400-450hp range and run 91 octane. I would like a lopy idle with a larger cam but I don't want to sacrifice reliability. The guy doing the machine work and engine assembly said for 500hp or less I don't need forged piston, he said the ford racing rods and factory crank will be plenty strong, he recommended not doing roller valve train do to the machine work needed on the heads, but he is not sure what a good jet boat cam would be.
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Nordic19

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Re: need help with cam and valve train
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2015, 09:05:41 PM »
I can ditch the valley pan the stock motor had one so I thought I needed one so I ordered it
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