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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2017, 10:58:19 AM »
Your pan looks to have had some modifications or trimming done. Did you get it new even you bought it?

Just asking.

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2017, 11:10:02 AM »
The picture I posted is after I got it back from when the windage tray got hammered in Burley 2012 when I broke the main bolt and the main cap beat up the tray. Armondo's did the repair job. I can't find a picture of the tray when I bought it new back in '08-'09ish from Armondo's. It was the first pan that they built for a ford that was 14qts and meant for a jet boat. Maybe they redesigned it since they built mine...?

If this pan/tray is junk....what should I be running? When I asked this question 8-9 years ago, everyone said Armondo's was the ticket.

I have read numerous threads of pressure drops in the Milodon pans.
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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2017, 11:18:29 AM »
The picture I posted is after I got it back from when the windage tray got hammered in Burley 2012 when I broke the main bolt and the main cap beat up the tray. Armondo's did the repair job. I can't find a picture of the tray when I bought it new back in '08-'09ish from Armondo's. It was the first pan that they built for a ford that was 14qts and meant for a jet boat. Maybe they redesigned it since they built mine...?

If this pan/tray is junk....what should I be running? When I asked this question 8-9 years ago, everyone said Armondo's was the ticket.

I have read numerous threads of pressure drops in the Milodon pans.
IMHO, Armando builds a nice pan. Not a mass produced piece of shit.

The only step up would be a Stef's, but you'll need to check their financing terms before ordering.

Me personally, I'd call Armando and tell him what you're experiencing with as much detail as possible.

I'll do it if you want.

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2017, 11:18:49 AM »
The picture I posted is after I got it back from when the windage tray got hammered in Burley 2012 when I broke the main bolt and the main cap beat up the tray. Armondo's did the repair job. I can't find a picture of the tray when I bought it new back in '08-'09ish from Armondo's. It was the first pan that they built for a ford that was 14qts and meant for a jet boat. Maybe they redesigned it since they built mine...?

If this pan/tray is junk....what should I be running? When I asked this question 8-9 years ago, everyone said Armondo's was the ticket.

I have read numerous threads of pressure drops in the Milodon pans.
Same here. Was told by a few to get rid of the milodin and go with the armando. I didn't know any different. Lol

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2017, 11:23:58 AM »
Same here. Was told by a few to get rid of the milodin and go with the armando. I didn't know any different. Lol

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I know how to fix a Milodon.....

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2017, 11:56:07 AM »
I know how to fix a Milodon.....

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That is because you are a mixture of Yoda, Gandalf, harry potter, Batman, Ron Jeremy, Buddha and bourbon. Pretty unstoppable combo.

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2017, 12:24:12 PM »
That is because you are a mixture of Yoda, Gandalf, harry potter, Batman, Ron Jeremy, Buddha and bourbon. Pretty unstoppable combo.

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So I'm green, old, have a scar on my face, only come out at night, dead but religious and a drunk?


Uh.... Thanks?

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2017, 02:47:29 PM »
George at clay smith recommended Dooleys. He mentioned it had "a proper windage tray"


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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2017, 03:54:29 PM »
George at clay smith recommended Dooleys. He mentioned it had "a proper windage tray"


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I like the Dooley, I have one on my bbc, the Ford pan is a little odd, but never really heard anything bad about them on a 460.

To make the Milodon work requires a MOROSO stud mounted tray and Pickup tube.

You have to run them 1 quart short and restrict the lifters. Typically about .135" is enough.

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2017, 04:01:05 PM »

Same here. Was told by a few to get rid of the milodin and go with the armando. I didn't know any different. Lol

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Hmmm ... What and why would make a big difference between the two pans just  asking ..


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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2017, 04:48:03 PM »
Hmmm ... What and why would make a big difference between the two pans just  asking ..


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As for the Milodon, the oil swirls at the pick up the way the oil returns off of the tray. The MOROSO pick up is rectangular and the tray helps the oil "step" home. Eliminates the swirl keeping the pick up from grabbing air.

That's what we came up with anyway. The Chevy Milodon didn't seem to have the issue.

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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2017, 06:10:59 PM »
I have problems with windage In my 521   I was running a Milodon pan. Just picked up a 10qt from Armando. Haven't run it yet. 


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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2017, 06:45:40 PM »
Just picked up a 10qt from Armando. Haven't run it yet.

Does that have a kickout one side to catch oil slinging off the rotating assembly?
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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2017, 06:47:14 PM »
The picture I posted is after I got it back from when the windage tray got hammered in Burley 2012 when I broke the main bolt and the main cap beat up the tray. Armondo's did the repair job. I can't find a picture of the tray when I bought it new back in '08-'09ish from Armondo's. It was the first pan that they built for a ford that was 14qts and meant for a jet boat. Maybe they redesigned it since they built mine...?

If this pan/tray is junk....what should I be running? When I asked this question 8-9 years ago, everyone said Armondo's was the ticket.

I have read numerous threads of pressure drops in the Milodon pans.

Oil pan technology, like everything else keeps progressing.  Years ago, the expanded metal (diamond stripper) windage tray was the hot ticket.  Then louvered sheet metal was all the rage because oil could flow through the expanded metal and get wound up in the rotating assembly.  Louvered sheet metal resisted that more.  Last I looked, expanded metal was the material of choice because, even though oil can flow through it, oil slinging off the rotating assembly losses its energy when it hits the expanded metal and does not reenter the the windage cloud.

The important thing is that the windage tray is the full length of the pan.  I also think that a baffle at the rear of the pan, preventing oil from sloshing up the back, and sealed all the way around.  This should contain all of the oil in the sump for some 15 degrees for when boat does a wheelie.

A jet boat specific oil pan essentially refers to the direction that the trap doors open and promote oil flow during normal forward motion.  A CJ requires control of the oil during hard lateral G's and in rough water that the average family ski boat will never encounter.

However not optimized for your application, some minor modifications to your pan and windage tray could go a long way.
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Re: Oil Cooler Options
« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2017, 07:29:26 PM »
No kick out on mine.


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