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msanchez414

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Please help!!!
« on: June 29, 2014, 07:35:39 PM »
So ive been having this problem with my boat. It wont go above 3000rpm at 3000 the motor shuts off like it is out of gas. So i took it to a shop and they rebuilt the carb put a new fuel pump on new electronic distributor, coil, plugs (they have a warranty on there work but are unhelpful with trying to fix the same problem i took it in for without me paying even more money).  I put a new fuel filter in and it has clean gas. Also, the motor doesnt seem to be overheating as it will do this warm or cold. Anythig anyone can think of would be helpful thank you

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msanchez414

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« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2014, 07:48:49 PM »
Sorry motor is an indamar 454 with berkley jet. And has a holley 650 vac sec

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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2014, 07:58:52 PM »
Wear ring in pump worn out? Others with more experience will hopefully chim in but if your wear ring is shot the impeller can thrust forward causing a excessive load on the crank in a forward motion. I know 1 guy and heard story's of others that this has happened to. Does it react the same on a trailer start up? Or just in the water?


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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2014, 08:04:02 PM »
Vac secondaries aren't opening??????

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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2014, 08:07:37 PM »
Wear ring in pump worn out? Others with more experience will hopefully chim in but if your wear ring is shot the impeller can thrust forward causing a excessive load on the crank in a forward motion. I know 1 guy and heard story's of others that this has happened to. Does it react the same on a trailer start up? Or just in the water?


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But the strange thing is i can run it from the launch ramp at elsinore all the way to the cove no problem but as soon as i stop for a little my problem starts.

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« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2014, 08:27:32 PM »

But the strange thing is i can run it from the launch ramp at elsinore all the way to the cove no problem but as soon as i stop for a little my problem starts.

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Ok that probably rules out the pump.


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« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2014, 08:32:22 PM »
Take the coast guard approved check valve elbows out of the fuel tanks and try that.


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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2014, 08:35:36 PM »

Take the coast guard approved check valve elbows out of the fuel tanks and try that.


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That or you may have an Eletrical\ignition issue?????


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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2014, 08:41:28 PM »
That or you may have an Eletrical\ignition issue?????


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Would that cause it to stall?

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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2014, 08:58:46 PM »
How is your fuel pressure?  Can you verify if the carb has fuel in it just after the engine stalls by looking at the accelerator pump shot?  Do not crank the engine or actuate the throttle until you can look down the carb.

What electronic distributor?  Were any of the original ignition parts reused?  Try duplicating the problem wow you have a timing light installed.  Watch the timing light to see if it stops flashing just before the engine stalls.

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« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2014, 09:01:10 PM »

Would that cause it to stall?

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Low voltage to the coil/ ignition. I had it happen to my sw 18 changed everything. Ended up being that


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« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2014, 09:18:21 PM »
How is your fuel pressure?  Can you verify if the carb has fuel in it just after the engine stalls by looking at the accelerator pump shot?  Do not crank the engine or actuate the throttle until you can look down the carb.

What electronic distributor?  Were any of the original ignition parts reused?  Try duplicating the problem wow you have a timing light installed.  Watch the timing light to see if it stops flashing just before the engine stalls.

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Fuel pressure is about 6.5. And there is fuel in the accelerator pumps. Also i have been unable to duplicate the problem on a trailer. There are no og ignition parts. Ive replace the key, coil, plugs, distributor.


That or you may have an Eletrical\ignition issue?????

But the motor doesnt just stop it feels like its running outa gas and if i play with the throttle when it starts to cut out sometimes it keeps running.


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« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2014, 09:24:12 PM »
Does it fire right up after?

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« Reply #13 on: June 29, 2014, 09:42:42 PM »
Check the roll pin in your distributor drive gear
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« Reply #14 on: June 29, 2014, 11:10:49 PM »
Does it fire right up after?

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Yes sir.

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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2014, 11:58:36 PM »
Sounds like everyone is on the right track.  Check all previously stated to rule out/troubleshoot. 

Wear ring worn out feels like tranny slip in ur truck

The ignition has been touched so could be issue but sounds like fuel is getting weak flow.  How old are ur tanks are they clean free off debris.  The checks are usually the suspect and should be removed from pick up tubes as someone mentioned. 

I had fiberglass tanks found out the hard way about replacing the entire fuel system. I would have clean carb run great a whole weekend next time out clog or restrict carb.  Fixed it I had got new tanks larger lines (no checks) larger pick ups. 

Fuel and fire your fire sounds new

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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 01:09:56 AM »
What ignition are you
Using?
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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2014, 08:29:17 AM »
Sounds like everyone is on the right track.  Check all previously stated to rule out/troubleshoot. 

Wear ring worn out feels like tranny slip in ur truck

The ignition has been touched so could be issue but sounds like fuel is getting weak flow.  How old are ur tanks are they clean free off debris.  The checks are usually the suspect and should be removed from pick up tubes as someone mentioned. 

I had fiberglass tanks found out the hard way about replacing the entire fuel system. I would have clean carb run great a whole weekend next time out clog or restrict carb.  Fixed it I had got new tanks larger lines (no checks) larger pick ups. 

Fuel and fire your fire sounds new

The tanks are original but are alum. Also before I started to rebuild the boat i cleaned and flushed both tanks. As for the checks how do i remove them they look to be welded into the tank. thanks four all the help.
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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2014, 08:32:02 AM »
What ignition are you
Using?

i have a mallory distributor with electronic conversion and a high vibration coil.
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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2014, 08:54:30 AM »
Low voltage to the coil/ ignition. I had it happen to my sw 18 changed everything. Ended up being that


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Is there a way to check the voltage while running the boat? Also, if it was electrical wouldn't the boat die instantly and not feel like is running out of gas?
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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2014, 10:58:04 AM »
Here is a pic i will get more detailed pics later

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Re: Please help!!!
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2014, 11:07:48 AM »
Take the coast guard approved check valve elbows out of the fuel tanks and try that.


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how do i do that. the seem to be welded in if i remember correctly
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2014, 11:24:32 AM »
I would look at the coil sound like it might be problem
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2014, 11:37:17 AM »
My friend just got over this same problem this past weekend!! He pulled and checked carb, all good. He then contacted Mallory and they said change out the coil, he did that, same problem!

It ended up being the wiring to the distributor and coil having bad ends that he couldn't see through the heat shrink tubing. All his time and frustration over a couple $0.10 wiring connectors!


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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2014, 12:01:13 PM »
I would look at the coil sound like it might be problem

thats what i thought but the coil has been replace 3 times now
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