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OUTLAW

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #50 on: May 06, 2009, 06:54:45 PM »
Hey Cadillac, I feel your pain, as far as the rope thing goes, I always carry one or two with me and have used then to help other boaters who were stranded, I wish every boater would carry a rope . Since you have had time to regroup your thoughts about your sunken boat have you thought about getting boat insurance, Heck I don't even know if boat insurance will cover something like a sunken boat.... I bought boat insurance just for the thought of a towing accident, I think I will ask my boat insurer of they cover a sunken boat .....Shit Accidents happen
   Keep the updates coming
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djleighk15

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #51 on: May 06, 2009, 07:28:23 PM »
Yea Im going with him for the recovery so imma make sure to take pics of the whole rescue.  I just hope its in decent shape. Gotta Hope for the best but expect the worse I guess. We'll see what happens. And thanks everyone for the help
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #52 on: May 06, 2009, 07:47:30 PM »
Probably has the new Quagga seat covers and gauges by now :-\

Good luck fellas!

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

IRRebel

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #53 on: May 06, 2009, 08:32:30 PM »
Quagga's and Zebras have only been found in Lake Pleasant around here, so far as I know, all six of the SRP lakes are clean so far, but the guages will be liquid filled for sure!

Don't mean to poke fun at your pain, truly. That's a huge investment to go like that, nearly did the same thing myself at Mead, rookie mistakes. (Different circumstances, but still, closer than I wanted it) :banghead:

Again, I'll be up there anyway if all this goes down on Saturday, and I can help, maybe.

Ray
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Cadillac

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2009, 08:44:38 PM »
Yeah honestly, Thank all of you for your help on this touchy subject, and I'm not sure if it's gonna be Fri or Sat yet I'll let you know. And Thanks Rebel If Sat I'll let you know ok!
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2009, 08:57:33 PM »
Offer's open even if you wanna just ride, drive and drink! Just me and the kids going, so plenty of room on this one. (I know I'd be drinking!, what am I saying, I'm drinking now,  ;D)

Ray
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The Chaz

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2009, 12:10:41 PM »
I have taken a couple over the back by circle'n  too fast to return to a downed skiier.  Made me nervous and actually caused a short? once that shut the boat off and wouldn't restart for a few mins.  I can see how this could easily happen.  Sorry to hear it ended with a HARD lesson learned.  Good Luck on the recovery and I am happy to hear no one got hurt more than some pride.
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ROMPERSTOMPER

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2009, 04:22:27 PM »
Im buying a rope this weekend! Sorry for the bad news. Keep your head up and good luck retrieving your baby.
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povertyjet

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #58 on: May 09, 2009, 07:08:18 AM »
Any updates?
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #59 on: May 09, 2009, 07:13:17 AM »
Got the boat hitched, loaded up and out the door as of NOW! Will let you guys know what happens from my end when I get back. Cadillac hasn't called me or let me know anything. Mighta been  resurected yesterday for all I know.

Ray
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electrowoman

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #60 on: May 09, 2009, 07:19:07 AM »
If someone else pulled it up would it be thier boat??  Does the salvage rights of the ocean
apply?

Geeez I hope not, he'll be having a heart attack till he gets it back home  >:(
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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #61 on: May 09, 2009, 07:38:07 AM »
If someone else pulled it up would it be thier boat??  Does the salvage rights of the ocean
apply?

Geeez I hope not, he'll be having a heart attack till he gets it back home  >:(

in short, no. salvage rights dont apply to land locked waterways.

i had a lawyer friend of mine look into this when the 'later' thread over on hotboat was going on...he said theres a national law that applies to all unless theres state or local law that says otherwise. of course if you are a LICENCED  salvage company you can pull it up and put a lein on it for the salvage fee.

'later' was a guy that sunk his boat at piru and begged for donations to get it up...he got a couple grand if i recall then never brought it up...so a few of us were going to pull it up and sell it to get back the peoples money. as far as i know...either it was all a fib or the boat is still on the bottom of piru about 150' down.
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #62 on: May 09, 2009, 08:07:43 AM »
That's interesting.  Thank you for that info.
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #63 on: May 09, 2009, 11:00:01 AM »
You also have to keep in mind that any ill effects from environmental issues go to the registered owner. He could be charged with the pollution issues, if any. They normally do not if it was deemed an accident, but the chance is always there.

The "finders keepers law" is a factor on rivers that reach the ocean, but like Brad said, not if a landlocked body of water.

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

2savage4you

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #64 on: May 09, 2009, 11:17:42 AM »
in short, no. salvage rights dont apply to land locked waterways.

i had a lawyer friend of mine look into this when the 'later' thread over on hotboat was going on...he said theres a national law that applies to all unless theres state or local law that says otherwise. of course if you are a LICENCED  salvage company you can pull it up and put a lein on it for the salvage fee.

'later' was a guy that sunk his boat at piru and begged for donations to get it up...he got a couple grand if i recall then never brought it up...so a few of us were going to pull it up and sell it to get back the peoples money. as far as i know...either it was all a fib or the boat is still on the bottom of piru about 150' down.


wasn't that boat found on craigslist  after all that.............


i think it was :sly:  he was just scamming.
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electrowoman

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #65 on: May 09, 2009, 11:39:30 AM »
I just hope they can find the boat.  I talked to my brother (scuba dives) he told me it would
likely be extremely hard to see down there.   He told me about having to "feel around"  looking for
a  --dy one time.   He wasn't the diver that found it as he said   "Thank God"

Throw in the under water currents it's hard to tell where the boat landed.   

I wish they would find it.  The suspense is murder.  I dooo feel the pain. 

I would be sick in his place.   :'(

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Cadillac

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2009, 12:15:48 PM »
Yeah sick is definitely the word it's not coming up now till next weekend Charlie which is the diver helping me is sick!  :banghead: WTF, so my nightmare continues yet another week, I honestly cannot believe this! I never thought I would make it through this week and now I have to wait another week! This is like torturing someone by pulling their fingernails and toenails off with needle nose pliers! Mike, the other diver said that they were not going out this weekend cause it's a holiday weekend, and that he could do it on Mon. But he could cost a shit load more $$$ and Charlie said Mike drags to hook his boats and that can take forever! So again YES my pain is to the bone at this point!! My brain is mush  :screwy:
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electrowoman

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2009, 12:59:55 PM »
Just my thoughts but the hook does NOT sound like the way to go....  May not make much differance at this point but I wouldn't like it.

I can't believe we ALL have to wait another week with you, and we ARE with you.

Dave
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Marcsrollin

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2009, 01:46:17 PM »
Is the boat in the river or a lake? Is there actual current?
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crewchief22

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2009, 01:59:39 PM »
It went down in Saguaro Lake, AZ on sat
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #70 on: May 09, 2009, 02:10:11 PM »
I go to a place called Martinez lake , but it is still the river! I was just wondering if the was a chance of sediment covering the boat if there was a current.
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

IRRebel

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #71 on: May 09, 2009, 07:51:22 PM »
Spent the day at Saguaro. Obvoiusly, the boat was not raised. Was watching every pass,. I guess next weekend. Still there for ya caddy!.

Ray
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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2009, 10:04:56 PM »
Yeah sick is definitely the word it's not coming up now till next weekend Charlie which is the diver helping me is sick!  :banghead: WTF, so my nightmare continues yet another week, I honestly cannot believe this! I never thought I would make it through this week and now I have to wait another week! This is like torturing someone by pulling their fingernails and toenails off with needle nose pliers! Mike, the other diver said that they were not going out this weekend cause it's a holiday weekend, and that he could do it on Mon. But he could cost a shit load more $$$ and Charlie said Mike drags to hook his boats and that can take forever! So again YES my pain is to the bone at this point!! My brain is mush  :screwy:

You have got to be kidding me! That sucks man....... :banghead:

One thing we do in the river boats is to use a floaty on a 150' rope and tie it off to the stringer or bow eye, this way if the boat goes down, you can find and retrieve it. This really sucks.

GT
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  • Boat #2: 19' Bubble deck Jet BBC Berkeley
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

IRRebel

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2009, 10:14:30 PM »
This surprises me though, and been bugging me. The lake is 10 times busier on the weekend, why are they doing it on a Saturday? Would it not make sense to do it during the week? AND, no O/T for the guys doing it.

Was gonna post pics from Saturdays ride, but in feeling caddy's pain, gonna leave it alone.

Ray
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electrowoman

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Re: SUNKEN BOAT HELP!!!!
« Reply #74 on: May 15, 2009, 06:10:23 AM »
How's it looking for this weekends hunt?   Don't forget we're all waiting for the good word.
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