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Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« on: March 30, 2015, 07:07:57 PM »
Come to find out bent a push rod and had water in cylinders put new one in cleaned out cylinders to put it around for Saturday. I get home make a few calls and to find out someone told me my headers allowed the cylinders to suck water in a I do run them wet and they are on a valve any other opinions on this also I now have no compression in number 1 cylinder and also if I was to run dry headers won't they get to hot and burn up my plug wires
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2015, 07:40:35 PM »
Come to find out bent a push rod and had water in cylinders put new one in cleaned out cylinders to put it around for Saturday. I get home make a few calls and to find out someone told me my headers allowed the cylinders to suck water in a I do run them wet and they are on a valve any other opinions on this also I now have no compression in number 1 cylinder and also if I was to run dry headers won't they get to hot and burn up my plug wires


There is so much going on here. I going to hit you one at a time.


Come to find out bent a push rod and had water in cylinders put new one in cleaned out cylinders to put it around for Saturday.

That sucks...

I get home make a few calls and to find out someone told me my headers allowed the cylinders to suck water in

Maybe... maybe not. It could be numerous things.

I do run them wet and they are on a valve any other opinions on this

Lots, but in all honesty, the Bassett valve is either a pass fail thing. Not sure why so many have issues with them.

I now have no compression in number 1 cylinder and also if I was to run dry headers won't they get to hot and burn up my plug wires

They don't burn the wires on a Corvette.   :sly:

But they sure do get silly hot... I am not convinced about the reversion issue...

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2015, 07:43:34 PM »
Yeah this whole motor is fresh brand new cam kit lifters springs used stock push rods and stock rockers
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2015, 07:44:12 PM »
I will be pulling motor down to see what's going on here
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2015, 07:45:45 PM »
Yeah this whole motor is fresh brand new cam kit lifters springs used stock push rods and stock rockers

Sounds like a potential for coil bind or guide bind to me.. What camshaft?
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2015, 07:46:13 PM »
Comp
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 07:46:36 PM »
570 lift I believe
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2015, 07:48:45 PM »
554 intake 557 exhaust
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2015, 07:53:22 PM »
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2015, 07:53:46 PM »
Flat
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2015, 07:02:38 AM »
is there water coming out of the header at idle or are thay dry
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2015, 07:32:51 AM »
they are dry
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2015, 05:58:03 PM »
Ok so I take off all the rockers and o now have compression in the cylinder
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2015, 10:55:11 PM »
Sounds like u had a valve to tight on numero uno..

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2015, 11:10:20 PM »
Sounds like u had a valve to tight on numero uno..

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So... valve kiss piston or water ingestion (reversion?)
or maybe a lobe going flat? (fresh motor / no compression on # 1)

Just a  w.a.g.

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2015, 11:24:12 PM »
If it had a bent valve or a lobe goin flat it wouldnt all of a sudden have compression in the cylinder when the rockers come off

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2015, 11:24:45 PM »
Sounds like you had too much block pressure...
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2015, 11:31:56 PM »
What kind of engine is this? Did i miss it somewhere??

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2015, 11:37:53 PM »
so... I've never tried running a compression check with the rockers off, However, I've done a 'bleed down test', no gauges, just an air compressor filling the cylinder, listening for escaping air.

what does a compression check tell if the rockers are off?

School me.

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2015, 11:45:46 PM »
Well if it had said bent valve from piston kiss seems to me. Cylinder in question would still have shittola for compression with rockers removed.. if a valve had been way to tight with rockers on it would have shittola for compression as well... no expert by any means.. just my 2 pennys.

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2015, 11:56:50 PM »
I already here the intake valve not opening part commin... but he never specified that one was dead..

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #21 on: April 01, 2015, 09:38:10 AM »
This was the 460 and it was the very first rocker I could tell right away when I took valve cover off that the spring look compressed further down then all rest through full rotation
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2015, 09:39:48 AM »
Now my plan of attack is let me know if this the right direction I'm going go to adjustable roller rocker set up and have the pushrods sized to fit
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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2015, 12:48:50 PM »
Is that pushrod the same length as the rest of them?!

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Re: Thought blew a head gasket at season opener
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2015, 01:16:25 PM »
Well I'm not 100% that it was but I do believe so just stock 460 pushrods
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