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OC2Vegas

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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2009, 07:58:04 PM »

Long story :'(  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:


Not really that long of a story.....Only 7 pages!  ;)

http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=5884.0
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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2009, 09:23:11 PM »
A windage tray is IMO a necessity when your talking about that much surface area to aerate, the windage from the crank (especially any kind of stroker application) would make the oil pan like a bubble bath.

Most high performance pans have some built in windage control, but could always be improved upon..

If there is no windage control, the oil needs to be as far away as possible from the rotating assy., which in a jet boat application is impossible to obtain...

GT
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
  • Boat #2: 19' Bubble deck Jet BBC Berkeley
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2009, 09:04:13 AM »
I've had intemittent issues with pushing oil out of the dipstick on hard runs.  During the Mead trip it pushed probably 1/2 quart out in one run (I know it happened during one long pass with the diverter in full up position (maybe more load?)).  Then with several other full throttle runs without the diverter change it would only push out the dipstick a little and no oil.

Mine still has a stock oil pan, so I'm thinking that the problem is due to excessive windage that is changed by load or attitude of the boat.

A new pan/windage tray is planned when the engine gets freshened up.
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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2009, 09:44:46 AM »
I've had intemittent issues with pushing oil out of the dipstick on hard runs.  During the Mead trip it pushed probably 1/2 quart out in one run (I know it happened during one long pass with the diverter in full up position (maybe more load?)).  Then with several other full throttle runs without the diverter change it would only push out the dipstick a little and no oil.

Mine still has a stock oil pan, so I'm thinking that the problem is due to excessive windage that is changed by load or attitude of the boat.

A new pan/windage tray is planned when the engine gets freshened up.


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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2009, 11:24:41 AM »
                            ::)

Well i guess im not gonna worry about a tray now......

Im too close
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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2009, 06:07:27 PM »
A windage tray is IMO a necessity when your talking about that much surface area to aerate, the windage from the crank (especially any kind of stroker application) would make the oil pan like a bubble bath.

Most high performance pans have some built in windage control, but could always be improved upon..

If there is no windage control, the oil needs to be as far away as possible from the rotating assy., which in a jet boat application is impossible to obtain...

GT
Thanks GT, for a straight fwd. answer. My new motor isn't worth taking a chance with a cheap pan. O0
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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2009, 06:25:51 PM »
Now that i remember by going thru old pics , this is the pan and it only had the short windage tray ( the rear ) i left off due to no studs..


the pan i took off the eliminator is the oposite, its a full lenght windage tray... So i got myself confused again cause i look at it everyday but  i think i will be just fine with that pan i have on my engine  ;)
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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2009, 07:02:01 PM »
Now that i remember by going thru old pics , this is the pan and it only had the short windage tray ( the rear ) i left off due to no studs..


the pan i took off the eliminator is the oposite, its a full lenght windage tray... So i got myself confused again cause i look at it everyday but  i think i will be just fine with that pan i have on my engine  ;)

These work well...The last big block I had had a Dooley pan and a crank scraper, IMHO way overkill, but it didn't have any windage issues whatsoever..And we could put 11 quarts in it without issues and that lowered the oil temp. to a nice 220*F  O0

GT
  • Boat #1: 1992 Carrera 20.5 Elite (I/O bitches)
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Ray

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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #33 on: March 29, 2009, 02:00:22 PM »
 I'm almost talking myself out ofchanging main cap bolts to studs until later on . Instead of installing windage tray on the studs  if I figured out exactly where the tray would line up in the pan to just clear the crank could I just weld the windage tray inside the pan instead like I have seen or is there a reason there on the main cap studs. It would sure simplify things. Does anyone see a reason for not doing this.....................motorhome6   
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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2009, 02:14:30 PM »
Me and the fiance



Mr. Plow never let anyone you care about ride on your street bikes with shorts on.....VERy VERY Very bad idea.

S CP  ;D
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Re: Windage tray
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2009, 04:35:15 PM »
Yeah and we should probably be wearing helmets too.  If she wants to wear her bee catchers thats her business. 
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