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beerjet

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2008, 03:09:14 PM »
See the brown shit on the bottom . Thats called wood   :banghead:  :mad: . I realize there are no trees in bumfuckintopac but thats wood , in a D'cucci not four stringers !



more of that weird brown stuff in the bilge area  :screwy: Yet no outter stringers  :screwy:



"Splash" or aka "Crash" that weekend , Another D'cucci , wood floor , 2 stringer light as they come circle boat .




There is no doubt in my mind that the 4 stringer Liberty was built as a circle boat . Thats not what I was told is all . Maybe as thin as that boat is , thats the better way to go . My Saguaro had flex that at times made me nervous . When I went for a ride in Brads boat , flex was taken to a hole new level for me . Thats what it takes to make a competative boat , a potatoe chip .

I can only hope some one who knows what they are talking about will set me straight on whether or not there is a diffrence in the 2 methods of boat building . F.A.G  ;)

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schick

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #26 on: December 13, 2008, 03:37:34 PM »
 I had a Central Marine Renegade a 1976. I weighted 350 lbs with no rigging. It buckled almost the same way. I didn't loose the flap on the bow, but it split the seam a foot from the bow forward on the driver side around to passenger seat. Spun the boat, threw the passenger out, he was ok, and broke 3 ribs on the driver who stayed in the boat. Glad I had insurance. I stripped the rigging and sold the hull. The boat was repaired and resides in Oraville area. schick
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #27 on: December 13, 2008, 03:57:16 PM »
 Liberty picture
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #28 on: December 13, 2008, 04:01:37 PM »
 The file is big from my camera. Here's another. The boat is on the lawn while the trailer is being weighted.
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beerjet

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #29 on: December 13, 2008, 04:23:45 PM »
Lets see the deck  ;D

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Ralph Brunt

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2008, 05:06:12 PM »
wood you say, that shit is balsa and paper thin, does nothing for the strength of the boat. my .02
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2008, 05:29:31 PM »
Omar that was supposed to be your next race boat :D

J/K ::) I even thought about picking it up, but then i remembered (sp) how long my project thread is now :screwy:

Four stringers is cool though ;)
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #32 on: December 13, 2008, 09:26:14 PM »
look at the real floor no wood buddy im gonna smack some white common sense into you in jan ps love you omar
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #33 on: December 13, 2008, 09:41:06 PM »
Jeremie,
this thread is for VACUUM bagging, that leaves you out of it since all you know is TEA BAGGING (at least that's what Brad told me)
See you in January

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2008, 03:24:25 PM »
The information I have is it's a Liberty custom sprint . This particular hull has no HIN (hull identification number). I was told this is because it was made only to race requiring on CF numbers to gain access to public waterways. Made between 1976-79. It’s a four-stringer boat, made to circle race. The hull weights 490 lbs. with no gear in it. If I can answer any other questions, please ask. schick

That thing weighed 490lbs? Wow, I remember me and my buddy picked it up by ourselves, with no problems, did you weigh it or was told that weight? Just curious
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2008, 04:37:45 PM »
I remember Liberty's factory drag boat.  They layed up a real light one and added the extra stringers to stiffen it up.  It was blue too but I thought it was painted.  Jeff Yelton drove it since he was the lightest guy in the shop willing to drive it.  Jeff Bennett would know about this boat.
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beerjet

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2008, 05:10:32 PM »
I remember Liberty's factory drag boat.  They layed up a real light one and added the extra stringers to stiffen it up.  It was blue too ......
You dont say , I really wish someone would have mentioned this earlier

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beerjet

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2008, 05:12:29 PM »
I remember Liberty's factory drag boat.  They layed up a real light one and added the extra stringers to stiffen it up.  It was blue too but I thought it was painted.  Jeff Yelton drove it since he was the lightest guy in the shop willing to drive it.  Jeff Bennett would know about this boat.
Do you remember who was building them at that time ?

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2008, 05:13:51 PM »
 I weighted the hull. That's why the boat is laying on my lawn. I want to know what I'm dealing with. I have my engines dyno'd also. I'm not one of these guys that say "my engine makes around 800hp". I know what I make.  Most people are full of sh%t. I perfer to have the specifics, have been GPSin equipment since the units were $500.00.
 Anywhy I got my vacuum pump, and some of the supplies to vacuum bag with. I start my vacation the 18th of Dec. so hope to start the project this year. Still need to make dollie to hold the hull while changing the stringers. Clean the garage, for space to work, ect..
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #39 on: December 16, 2008, 01:56:32 PM »
How did you weigh it?
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2008, 05:34:17 PM »
I drove the truck, trailer, and boat across a truck scale, drove to my house 2 miles away, slid the boat off the trailer, went back to the scale, weighted the truck, and trailer, subtracted the weight of the second ticket from the first and Walla 490lbs. This is the only way I know how to weigh’em without lots of equipment, (fork lift, scale, straps, ect....)
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2008, 05:35:53 PM »
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beerjet

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2008, 05:50:09 PM »

 ::)  ;D
I haven't seen one of those since high school when I used to  ::) ...........

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2008, 06:49:24 PM »
I drove the truck, trailer, and boat across a truck scale, drove to my house 2 miles away, slid the boat off the trailer, went back to the scale, weighted the truck, and trailer, subtracted the weight of the second ticket from the first and Walla 490lbs. This is the only way I know how to weigh’em without lots of equipment, (fork lift, scale, straps, ect....)

Hmmm that could be the error. I've had those things show differences of over 500lbs at times (just looking at empty vehicle weight). Picking that thing up let's you know it's not 490lbs lol
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2008, 07:29:26 PM »
I'll look for a more accurate means to measure, and repost the weight. Do you think more or less?
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crewchief22

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2008, 07:33:44 PM »
Where are you located?

If you make a dolly to set the hull on I have a set of Longacre electronic scales that we can set up and weigh it.

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2008, 08:52:04 PM »
  I appreciate the offer, but I live in Manteca, which is about 60 miles south of Sacramento. 
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2008, 08:54:50 PM »
I'll look for a more accurate means to measure, and repost the weight. Do you think more or less?

I wouldn't think over 200lbs in my opinion, my buddy and I picked it up no problem. What do you think Jeremy?
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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #48 on: December 16, 2008, 09:01:37 PM »
  I appreciate the offer, but I live in Manteca, which is about 60 miles south of Sacramento. 

Yea, that is a little far for a quick trip.
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schick

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Re: Vacuum Bagging
« Reply #49 on: December 16, 2008, 09:16:49 PM »
 I really appreciate the gesture, that’s very generous to offer the equipment use and your time. Thank You
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