SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Hulls => Topic started by: wickwine on December 18, 2013, 03:41:49 PM
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Alright I'm looking at getting this for my next project. Not sure I don't know much about them but I need to know if it's worth it and what you guys think. Says its a 1970 Beez Mayer 21ft day cruiser. 460 BBF been sitting for quite some time says there's only about 30 hrs on motor but its been sitting and I saw water in the carb do who knows what's inside the motor. Berkeley JB pump, unknown impeller. Anybody know what these things run? Info? Facts? Ill post pics it's pretty dirt gonna need sanded and re painted or gel
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Looks like ALOT of work! Wheres the rest of the pump??
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The guy has it, not sure why he took it off tho. I know some guys don't like hauling with the nozzle part on cause its so long and hangs down? But yeah it definitely needs a lot of attention I see the potential in everything tho. Just not sure if it'd be worth getting into or not. He's wanting 550 for it and even at that I'm sceptical.. Basically I see a hull that needs completely redone with an engine that may or may not run and even if it does there's no way I'm gonna run it with out going through it..
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how deep are your pockets?
that being said i found my 21 in a dirt field sitting on a load of tires bow down. anything is possible. but it takes time and money. based on the pix that boat is a complete gut and throw away. things like steering, throttle, gas lines, wiring, etc are all probably old cracked and rusty... and most importantly NOT SAFE! you'll have to start over from scratch. the fact that its been sitting outside you need to worry about structural things like the stringers and floor. they're probably rotten from standing water and will need to be replaced. trailer looks like it needs to be stripped and redone, tires, bearings, etc.
i didnt care when i started my project because i knew that i was going to replace everything with new. it just depends on what you want to spend.
im not sure how many hulls are laying around in your neck of the woods but around here a 21 cruiser can be found pretty easily in great shape for next to nothing.
me personally unless you had some emotional tie to this boat, i would walk.
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Walk away keep looking even 2 bucks is to much do you have a money tree in your back yard by the time you fix erup ir will be in the thousands.
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That's thing looks not good from the pics. I see a lot of work and maybe more then what you can see. I agree with Ka0tyk how deep are your packets. If you do get the boat sale trailer and pump and scrap the hull. Good luck on the project if you go that rout. Anything can be done.
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That hull will easily fill a dumpster and burn through 3 skil saw blades....as me how I know.
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Three blades? Dude your doing it wrong.
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Easy solution drive to desert light on fire, enjoy s'mores... Hahahaha
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I wouldn't touch this with a 20 ft pole. Pass on it.
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Three blades? Dude your doing it wrong.
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I'll drop the next one off in your front yard next time....
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Run Forrest, Ruuuuuuunnnnnn....
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Lol yeahhhh I figured it would be a long shot and here in missouri there aren't to many jets sittin around but I come across one every now and then just haven't seen any 21 footers that's what I was more interested cause it'd handle a lot better on the ozarks. I appreciate everyone's opinions tho. I know it would be a complete job if picked it up. The tanks and lines and cables actually looked ok since all that was under that engine cover and didn't take on much sun and he did have two bran new cables and shifter for it. I'm still pondering the idea but ill probably walk I've had my eye on a 18ft nordic bubble deck for a while that I may end up with in the near future. Just got a wild hair up my ass when I came across the 21 footer. But yeah I thought about shooting him an offer of a couple hundred to take it off his hands and I tried to let him know its basically worth the pump and that's about it.. But thanks again guys! Opinions and pointers are still welcome
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If its truly a Biesemeyer, It would be worth the effort.
Build it the way you want it, not settling on a 455 G/E combo like a lot of 21's have.
This hull is similar to my 21 eliminator, and takes the chop of the big lakes well. (Lake Mead/Mohave)
Is it a 4 stringer hull? Is the bottom straight? That BBF/Berk combo will be a good set-up for that hull.
You might find a better project in AZ/Socal.
Good luck.
Dan'l
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For the amount of money you're going to drop in that boat you're better off driving to Arizona or California and picking up a lot cleaner project. You would end up spending less on gas then what you're going to put in that project.
Walk away and keep looking for something else
SRC
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Like I said I'm in missouri so I won't be looking for a hull that's on the west coast lol but as far as the hull goes it looked pretty straight a few scratches on the bottom but I didn't see any major gouges or holes or anything, I'm not sure how many stringers it has the floor is still in it an the carpet which actually doesn't look bad but could definetely be cleaned up. The floor seemed to be holding up but who knows what it looks like under the carpet. The inside does t look to bad I don't have a clue what happened to the outside looks like it'd been sitting under a couple trees the passed few years. Ill post a few more pictures I took when I looked at it.
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Here's some more pics
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But yeah I bet I could find a lot cleaner project for a hell of a price in cal or az and drive to get it and bring it back for a grand but like I said I have my eyes on a nordic bubble deck that has a bbf and a berkeley in it for a grand.
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Don't walk away. Run.
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just for comparison i paid $100 for my 21 and gave him $50 to use his tractor to load it onto my trailer.
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the guy with the 21 near you should be paying you to take it off of his lot.
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Three blades? Dude your doing it wrong.
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A dull skilsaw blade can kill you, they're cheap enough.
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just for comparison i paid $100 for my 21 and gave him $50 to use his tractor to load it onto my trailer.
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the guy with the 21 near you should be paying you to take it off of his lot.
Lol yeah I came across your thread about that 21 I wish there were more jet boats in general around here but there just isn't. I like your 21 damn I wish this one was in better shape but I'm more than likely going to walk. I may run it by the guy that its basically junk and if he doesn't wanna get rid of it for almost nothing then I hope he finds the sucker that's gonna pay him for it. I hate when people want way to much for things that are just clearly not worth half of what they ask. I mean I could end up getting it and start tearing into it and realize the thing is just to far gone and pull the motor and pump and any other usable parts and bury the thing..
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how far would you be willing to drive for something in decent shape and whats your budget? i can crawl craigslist and see if theres any possibilities. ^-^
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how far would you be willing to drive for something in decent shape and whats your budget? i can crawl craigslist and see if theres any possibilities. ^-^
Well if you live in CA anywhere there is quite the drive for me from missouri but it's a possibility I could definitely take a road trip for something decent for sure, my grandparents live right outside of pheonix but we don't communicate much anymore due to family drama but I wouldn't be able to do take a trip that way until closer to summer. Budget wise I guess it just depends on the day and what's included with it and the type of boat/ brand and all that. It definitely seems if I want something decent for a project CA and AZ is where I'm going to find it
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I live just south of Memphis and found mine on Craigslist .....
hopped in my pickup and rolled to Havasu and started looking ..... found a nice one in Earp, bought it, played on the River for a day and rolled back east. SoCal -Az is your best bet...
take yer time...... look at lots of em !!!
good luck!!!!
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Offer him a couple of hundred. It has a trailer, motor and pump. you could get your money back out of those items if the hull turned out to be junk.
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Offer him a couple of hundred. It has a trailer, motor and pump. you could get your money back out of those items if the hull turned out to be junk.
Yeah I may run everything by him and offer him a couple hundred mainly because its sitting on a trailer(that needs work) and has the motor and pump. He says he's selling it because he's moving to an apt and its been on craigs for a month now, he said he's had a few people call or look at it but obviously nothing's happened. I kinda want the thing but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew. What do you guys think about the over all look of the hull? I want that hotrod boat style an looks that the smaller jet boats have but something big enough to be in lake waters and haul more than 2 people.
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Yeah I may run everything by him and offer him a couple hundred mainly because its sitting on a trailer(that needs work) and has the motor and pump. He says he's selling it because he's moving to an apt and its been on craigs for a month now, he said he's had a few people call or look at it but obviously nothing's happened. I kinda want the thing but I don't want to bite off more than I can chew. What do you guys think about the over all look of the hull? I want that hotrod boat style an looks that the smaller jet boats have but something big enough to be in lake waters and haul more than 2 people.
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I know you are saying it's too far to drive and there isn't enough jets out there, but if they all look like that one. Make the drive you will spend half as much money, yeah it will be up front but in the end it will be half worth it. I'm in so cal and picked my 20.5 up in havasu, guy drove out from Powell because he was having a hard time selling it out there.
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Well I may em up gettin the thing, he was asking 650 on Craig's he's at 500 but I figure if I tell him 400 hell probably do it and at that if it turns out to be junk I can take the pump and 460 and snails and have my money back for sure.. But I'm still thinking about it ill let you guys know what I do and if I end up getting it ill get it home and take some pictures and clean it up a lil and take more pictures. Thanks for all the opinions guys I appreciate it. One more thing I saw a couple 21 footers with a wake board tower I thought looked cool online. Any takes on that? I know a lot of you jet boaters hate the idea. The blue one is actually 22ft but the white one is actually a biesemeyer like the one I'm looking at. Sorry about the picture quality that's the best it would let me see the picture
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Towers are nice if you wakeboard a lot and look good on a bigger boat. In the end you have to make the boat work for you.
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Here's the biesemeyer. I forgot to upload the picture.
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Blue boat looks ok with one cause its a deeper hull, other boat is hideous! Towers just don't belong on jetboats...
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towers are functionality over form. if you ski and wakeboard, etc a lot then it makes a lot of sense. those items take up a huge amount of space and arent fun laying on the floor attacking your aknles while you're driving the boat. so it makes sense. also the tower allows you to put the rope up higher and helps pulling novice skiiers and boarders out of the water since its basically pulling them "up" not forward. if you can live with it, they're great.
one thing to think about is where you store the boat. if you're going to put it in a garage most towers dont fit and will need to be folded down in order to clear. make sure they demonstrate how it folds etc. the mother in laws mastercraft requires folding the tower, which leaves a crease in the seat, you have to lower the trailer on the ground to get under the front of the garage, etc. so make sure you measure first.
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Yeah I do wake board and if I did get one Ill be looking for something easy to disassemble and remove cause I wouldn't want it on the boat at all times. I agree jet boats with towers do look a little silly but hey I don't really have the scratch to go out and buy a brand new wake board boat.
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I say drive west young man. Their are a ton of boats for sale even where your grand parents live. Get a great boat and maybe patch up some family drama. Sounds like a win win. Good luck.
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"Yeah I do wake board"
IMHO: Jet boats do NOT make good wake boats. I'm not a wakeboarder, but based on the speeds that boarders normally run, a jet boat does not make a good candidate. I have a 22' Dana cruiser similar to the one you show (sans tower). It's difficult to get it to run in a semi-displacement mode, at wakeboard speeds.
BTW: What make is that 22' boat? Hull lines look similar to mine.
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Lol yeah who knows.. I just get impatient maybe I should slow my role and do some more looking and be patient. But Where I found the pics of that 22 it says its a 1985 targa day cruiser. But all I know is I'm about ready for a restoration with the new assortment of air tools I've picked up from harbor freight today including a new air compressor and welder. Just ready to find a nice float I can't live without
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Lol yeah who knows.. I just get impatient maybe I should slow my role and do some more looking and be patient. But Where I found the pics of that 22 it says its a 1985 targa day cruiser. But all I know is I'm about ready for a restoration with the new assortment of air tools I've picked up from harbor freight today including a new air compressor and welder. Just ready to find a nice float I can't live without
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SRC
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Relax and don't get in a hurry
If its right, it ill come your way
SRC
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Lol yeah who knows.. I just get impatient maybe I should slow my role and do some more looking and be patient. But Where I found the pics of that 22 it says its a 1985 targa day cruiser. But all I know is I'm about ready for a restoration with the new assortment of air tools I've picked up from harbor freight today including a new air compressor and welder. Just ready to find a nice float I can't live without
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Harbor freight.... I can't stand that place. Be ready to go back there and get replacements after those break. I needed an air board for a job once and only really for one job so I picked a cheap one up from there. Worked for 10 minutes.
Like everyone else has said be patient and you'll find something. Not a bad idea to take a trip out west though and pick one up, lots of good deals available. Just make sure that trailer is good if you're driving all the way back ;)
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