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PBWOOD

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93 CP OPEN BOW
« on: March 12, 2011, 08:05:34 PM »
IN DISTRESS NOT A BOAT FIBER GLASS EXPERT BUT NO A LITTLE BIT.NEED SUM ADVISE ON HOW TO MAKE MY HULL STRONGER.I HAVE AN OPEN BOW GULLWING AND ITS FALLING APART I CAN GRAB THE BOW AND BASICALLY TWIST THE BOAT.IM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM.WHEN IT TWISTS I HAVE FOUND SEVERAL AREAS THAT NEED TO BE GLASSED OR REPAIRED.THE BULKHEAD IS SPLINTERED TO PIECES AND IM ASSUMING THAT IS THE MAJORITY OF THE PROBLEM.ILL TRY TO POST PICS BUT NEED SOME ADVISE ON HOW TO FIX..
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Ralph Brunt

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2011, 08:50:05 PM »
if it flexes the way you say and you are NOT experienced with fiberglass repair take it to a proffesional do to safety reasons

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2011, 10:04:55 PM »
do you have any suggestions of someone in san diego?
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2011, 06:36:05 AM »
do you have any suggestions of someone in san diego?
i dont know of anybody in san diego,
gs marine is in corona, orange county boat repair, or bk boat repair in bellflower. all top notch shops, at least give them a call and maybe let them look  at it.

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They are all fukin tasty. My long time favorite, "Dirty Dicks -beerjet-
Glasscutter, Skip, OC2  Nordie and many more nail me good every time, relentlessly, I love those guys!

GT Jets

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2011, 01:08:53 PM »
Questions...

Was this boat ever in a crash?

Are you experiencing heavy stress cracks in any one area in particular?

You say the bulkhead is splintering, wood or glass?

Have you made any structural changes (like cutting holes for stereo speakers and whatnot)?

Does this boat have a false floor?



I have some suspicions on what is going on, but without the touch, smell, taste and see, it would all be speculation.

The walk through section has broken free from the bottom half of the hull, seen it before.  :-\

Good luck, the shop I worked for for a while is no longer in business in San Diego....So I'm no help.  :thumbdown:

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2011, 01:58:45 PM »
Pictures or a video may help also. Will give the experts here some more details of how bad it is.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2011, 08:46:25 AM by OC2Vegas »
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Brendella Pickle

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 07:07:54 AM »
IF JP is still open in Lakeside, try them. They will at least know where to send you locally.
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 09:12:29 AM »
HERES SOME PICS
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 09:14:50 AM »
MORE PICS
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2011, 09:17:22 AM »
SUB FLOOR TO STRINGER DETACHED
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2011, 09:25:48 AM »
SO AS YOU GUYS BEING MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THIS THAN I AM MY SOLUTION WAS TO GO TO HOME DEPOT GOT THE FIBERGLASS AND WAS ABOUT TO LAY STRIPS OVER EVERYTHING THEN ASKED A BUDDY TO GIVE ME A HAND AND HE ADVISED ME TO RETHINK THIS A LITTLE MORE BEFORE I GET STARTED.AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BULKHEAD THAT SUPPORTS THE BOW HAS COME APRT EVERY WHERE THAT ITS BEEN CONNECTED TO THE BOTTOM MOLD.SO I DONT KNOW ENOUGH TO TELL IF THE GLASS WASNT STRONG ENOUGH OR IF NOT ENOUGH WAS USED OR WTF.IM THINKING OF DRAGGIN IT TO A BOAT SHOP AND GOT AN OVER THE PHONE GESTAMATE THAT IT MIGHT BE AROUND 2500.BUT CRAP THATS MONEY I CAN SPEND ON MY MOTOR..ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD HELP ,ADVICE,EXC..THIS IS STARTING TO WORRY ME.. :mad: :mad: :mad: :'(
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2011, 09:35:45 AM »
JP Marine in lakeside! Talk to Joe.
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Brendella Pickle

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2011, 09:36:50 AM »
Mouzer had a Gull Wing hull (not open bow) for sale on here around that price not too long ago.
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2011, 09:42:10 AM »
WELL FOR THE PRICE I PAYED IM A LITTLE PISSED TO FIND THIS STUFF WRONG WITH IT.WELL I GUESS ILL FIND OUT FROM JOE AT JP WHAT I GOT MYSELF INTO.. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2011, 10:32:29 AM »
SO AS YOU GUYS BEING MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THIS THAN I AM MY SOLUTION WAS TO GO TO HOME DEPOT GOT THE FIBERGLASS AND WAS ABOUT TO LAY STRIPS OVER EVERYTHING THEN ASKED A BUDDY TO GIVE ME A HAND AND HE ADVISED ME TO RETHINK THIS A LITTLE MORE BEFORE I GET STARTED.AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THAT THE BULKHEAD THAT SUPPORTS THE BOW HAS COME APRT EVERY WHERE THAT ITS BEEN CONNECTED TO THE BOTTOM MOLD.SO I DONT KNOW ENOUGH TO TELL IF THE GLASS WASNT STRONG ENOUGH OR IF NOT ENOUGH WAS USED OR WTF.IM THINKING OF DRAGGIN IT TO A BOAT SHOP AND GOT AN OVER THE PHONE GESTAMATE THAT IT MIGHT BE AROUND 2500.BUT CRAP THATS MONEY I CAN SPEND ON MY MOTOR..ANY SUGGESTIONS WOULD HELP ,ADVICE,EXC..THIS IS STARTING TO WORRY ME.. :mad: :mad: :mad: :'(

It is my humble opinion and recommendation that this cannot be repaired "from the top"...
 
This boat has to be completely disassembled and rebuilt IMHO, this will not be too bad of a repair, but best left to someone with experience in this are of expertise.

It is exactly as I expected, all of the bulkhead attachments have been done without proper preparation.

It can be repaired, but it wont be cheap..

Sorry for the woes brother    :thumbdown:

GT
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2011, 12:15:41 PM »
It is my humble opinion and recommendation that this cannot be repaired "from the top"...
 
This boat has to be completely disassembled and rebuilt IMHO, this will not be too bad of a repair, but best left to someone with experience in this are of expertise.

It is exactly as I expected, all of the bulkhead attachments have been done without proper preparation.

It can be repaired, but it wont be cheap..

Sorry for the woes brother    :thumbdown:

GT

x2 not a job for someone who has never done one. you dont want to half ass it then put your high priced motor in and sink it the first time out
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PBWOOD

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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2011, 09:08:56 PM »
HEY THANKS FOR THE ADVISE GOT THE BOAT IN THE SHOP.AND BY THE WAY THE GUY HAS A COUPLE MOLDS 4 CP HULLS IF ANY ONE IS INTERESTED ANY COLOR YOU WANT $9500 BY THE TIME IM DONE THIS HULL WILL BE ABOUT THE SAME INVESTMENT.SO MUCH 4 A DEAL ON A USED BOAT :screwy: :screwy: :mad: :mad: OH YEAH THIS WILL HAVE AFTER PICS WHEN DONE..THE WHOLE FLOOR WILL BE REMOVED NEW BULKHEAD ADDED BULKHEADS AND EVERYTHING WILL BE REPAIRED SOLID AS A ROCK. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :'( :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Re: 93 CP OPEN BOW
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2011, 07:47:13 PM »
i cant wait to see this thing when its done woodski,i know you have big plans for the motor.Keep us posted on the hull and the motor.o ya i for got to tell you to take the hand hole cover off the pump and grab the shaft wiggle that f@&ker and see if there is any play
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