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2Bing-guy

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Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« on: May 29, 2008, 04:51:42 PM »
Hi Guys, been a lurker here for awhile, used to be a boat mech in the way back time and I am thinking about getting a new jet toy.  I found this rig, a 91 baja W 454 some mods, dart heads, headers, guys says it dynoed at 430, big whoop.  Anyway the boat is very clean aside from  this crazy pump mount.  You can tell they yanked a IO out and put this dominator on. Any input on this? anyone seen this done before?  Should I even go drive the thing and see how it runs out or say screw it, ie: nightmare in the making. They guy wants 10K.
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OC2Vegas

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 05:00:00 PM »
thats what alot of the guys here do to the boat. It is further out then the stock position, known also a "set back pump"

I have seen it done cleaner by JBP
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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 05:04:30 PM »
Check the fiberglass work that has been done to set the intake etc. I would take it for a ride check for leaks etc. Could have potential take it for a spin. Does it have a small block?? If it does then pass a boat that big with a jet will suck. Any big block built tight with dart heads should have a little more HP especially if he spent the $$$ to dyno it.

nevermind the smallblock part I just read it has a 454
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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 05:08:19 PM »
Looks like a set back to me, if you think it's a good deal, then go for a ride in it, check it all out, enjoy
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OC2Vegas

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 05:15:04 PM »
oh ya, welcome to the site(madness) ;D
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2Bing-guy

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 05:20:22 PM »
My bud sent me the pics of the boat, I havent seen it in person, "2nd hand bud info", maybe its a diesel.  Anyway from what I saw in the pics it looked like a former IO hacked up some to take a pump, you guys think a setback.  That would be better I guess as I suppose the bottoms are differnt from IO to Jet given feed water issues etc.  I looked at some old baja info and didnt find any jets available from the OE.  Maybe Ill have to go look at it, Im curious about how the mount was done, scab job etc.
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beerjet

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 06:43:07 PM »
My bud sent me the pics of the boat, I havent seen it in person, "2nd hand bud info", maybe its a diesel.  Anyway from what I saw in the pics it looked like a former IO hacked up some to take a pump, you guys think a setback.  That would be better I guess as I suppose the bottoms are differnt from IO to Jet given feed water issues etc.  I looked at some old baja info and didnt find any jets available from the OE.  Maybe Ill have to go look at it, Im curious about how the mount was done, scab job etc.
Pumps traditionally have a big square hole cut out to accomidate the square transome covers . When you move the pump out as far as he did (creating better stability is why it's done) the big square hole has to get covered somehow and thats how its done .

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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

crewchief22

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 07:05:32 PM »
In the mid 90's I worked for a dealer that sold Baja Boats.  Baja made a good hull but by that time they didn't do any jets that I know of.

For 10k you should be able to find a nicer older jet boat or V-drive that doesn't look like it has been hacked.

Welcome to the site  ;D
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beerjet

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 07:07:42 PM »
In the mid 90's I worked for a dealer that sold Baja Boats.  Baja made a good hull but by that time they didn't do any jets that I know of.

For 10k you should be able to find a nicer older jet boat or V-drive that doesn't look like it has been hacked.

Welcome to the site  ;D
10k you can have mine .

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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

skee

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 07:11:33 PM »
Hey,Welcome to the site!  ;D Listen to these guy's...they know their stuff..They say 10k too much and keep lookin'.....then I'd keep lookin'!  ;D
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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 07:49:54 PM »
A set back pump is a good thing,but the height of the  pump in relation to the keel looks way to high or is it just me????
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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 08:46:54 PM »
A set back pump , ride plate and a hydrolic placediverter , What does the rest of the boat look like? It my not be that easy to find a jet boat in Wisconsin!
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crewchief22

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 09:00:14 PM »
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=864.msg9340#msg9340

With the lowered the price, he could drive out and tow it back and still be at 10K.
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hotrod56cars

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 09:30:34 PM »
That version of the Dominator pump is supposed to be a really good version.
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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2008, 12:38:37 PM »
Looks like a pretty decent Job IMO like to see the rest of the rigging Tom
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realHawaiianJet

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2008, 11:10:30 AM »
Does it have a pump brace on the inside of the boat? To hold the intake down. When they are set back there is more force applied to the intake because of the additional leverage created by the greater amount of pump sticking out of the boat. If it doesn't, then this is probably the cause of the cracks around the intake on the bottom of the boat. ;)

Here's a picture of a pump brace.
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Marcsrollin

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ??
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2008, 11:21:23 AM »
Does it have a pump brace on the inside of the boat? To hold the intake down. When they are set back there is more force applied to the intake because of the additional leverage created by the greater amount of pump sticking out of the boat. If it doesn't, then this is probably the cause of the cracks around the intake on the bottom of the boat. ;)

Here's a picture of a pump brace.


Come on , let's see the rest of your boat!
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

realHawaiianJet

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Re: Crazy Pump Mount, Yikes ?? New
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2008, 11:38:15 AM »
Come on , let's see the rest of your boat!

Ha, I wish this was my boat!!! :D I pulled that pic from the HTP website.

But, if you really want to see mine, here's a link to my project thread over on PB.
http://www.performanceboats.com/html/forums/showthread.php?t=6709
« Last Edit: July 03, 2008, 12:08:31 PM by realHawaiianJet »
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