another opinion thread. im sure you all are tired of them

My rogers i do not have a diverter, instead i have a full AT droop and a set of wedges.

I needed some gaskets and cant get out of work to go get them so i asked my GF if she would run to GS marine and get htem since Eddie marine was out of stock.

She went down there and i called Greg before hand making sure he had them. He asked that i have her bring the nozzle for the new o ring since there are quite a few of them. I said sure.

Since im at work i couldnt pull it apart for her so she had to take the nozzle/droop assembled down there.

He highly recommended changing from the droop to a HPH nozzle. Said my droop was like a shovel in the water.

Being i have a ride plate, i dont see that really being that true? But further me not having  a diverter i figure the droop really helps with lift?

What would/are the benefits of changing to a straight snoot like the HPH? Especially in my situation without a diverter? I really think it would hurt more than help. Maybe he was assuming i didnt have a ride plate?

He even sent her home with a flyer. Just trying to sell something? Or would i possibly really see a gain? The boat rides pretty damn nicely now.

Further, back when the boat was built in 2006 by GS marine, they had it setup with a full droop. I'd like to hear everyones opinion

Man, auto correct had its way with me,  hopefully I fixed all the errors.

Sheeese.

GT

Download "Clinometer" to your smart phone.

I use it all the time.

GT

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Pretty slick

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Can your set your own zero with it?

For $.99. Otherwise just do some math.

GT

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.99 is well worth it. You don't know my math skills. To say they are bad, would be a gross understatement

Pretty slick

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This might be a pretty stupid question, but im going to ask anyway....

Where do i measure?

Do i find the keel infront of the intake, 0 out my reader there then measure on the ride plate for example?

Also, on the ride plate, where do i measure? At the end of the plate where the cradle goes? The middle? the front?

Same question for the shoe?

Not really a stupid question.

For starters,  I like to use a strake for getting keel angle. It's the most idiot proof.

The shoe should be flat so check that in reference to the angle you get from the keel/strake. You can always level the boat trailer to achieve "0" degrees. The ride plate would be angled "up" from the keel,  so when you measure the plate, you may have to take an average,  meaning the plates are not always flat. From what I have seen over the years is anywhere from 2° up to about 4° up seems to be a great starting point. By starting out at an extreme, the changes are more prominent.

If you have to have the plate way up (say in excess of 5°) I would say the shoe should be back cut,  if nearly 0° works,  I would say the shoe should be flat or may flat. (Also called straight cut).

Be sure to document your changes and small changes ate best for the most part. You likely won't get it "right the first try".

While you're under there farting around,  check the hull bottom for a hook,  especially at the strakes.

Also, don't forget to take a gander at the loader and it's hardware.

GT

Thanks GT

I've crawled underneath it and checked it for hook, i dont see a whole lot of it there. Not bad by anymeans

The loader hardware is brand new.

Ill try the measuring this weekend

Jmo, leave the droop and throw a dam diverter on the thing already. I promise it will help bud 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

The only gain I can see with the HPN combo is rasing the thrust line.


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That's the plan

The reason I was asking was because I felt like gs was just trying to shovel parts

Also to learn the differences

Put some down wedge in it? You can pick up the plastic wedges pretty darn cheap... Still might be able to have the best of both worlds if you play with some different wedges...


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I wonder if the HPH would help the porpoise in my boat. Right around cruising speed it starts to bounce and that's with no trim. I feel like the droop gives mine way too much lift. I know all boats are different, but every other Bonneville Classic I've seen has a droop on it. One thing I noticed is when I had people in the bow (more weight) the porpoising wasn't nearly as bad.


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Classic symptom of too low of X dimension for your set up.  Where is your plate at?

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Classic symptom of too low of X dimension for your set up.  Where is your plate at?

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3* up.

Here's a pic of the setup.



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Gt if he flipped that 3* up upside down wouldn't almost cancel out the droop? Don't most droops have like 4* built into them? Again just thinking out loud... 😎


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Seriously, dont piss GT off with wacky setups. Lol

One more thing, what the hell is with that steering tiller bolt spacer thingomobob?  Lose that spacer and replace the bolt with a shorter one. To get the cable to move at the tube, replace the rubber insert and loosen it up.