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beerjet

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Jetahloics pump rebuild
« on: September 04, 2007, 07:26:41 PM »
A friend of mine (Jetaholic) who has done a complete resto on a marlin calls me and ask me if I could help him out in rebuilding his pump . (I cant remember exactly what events took place nor in what order) Turns out he was taking his freshly restored boat out for its maiden voyage he noticed a ton of water in his bilge . Motor was also dead and as the boat came to stop his wake also came over and swamped the boat .This thing was going down and in a hurry . A freind of his who finally got his boat fired up after having issues of his own comes around to the rescue . Got the boat on the trailer and as he's pulling it out of the water , the winch starts to unreel and the boat is headed for the water on it's own this time , but he saves it . WHEW !

So anyways here is the boat in question .78 marlin I believe . All new wood inside . New Gel. New 454 . New upholstery . New gages . New wiring .New trailer. And last but not least , it had a fresh pump .





First thing was to yank the victum out of it's final resting place .Here is the before shot .



Now get to gettin !



Once again I will say that in MY OPINION you dont need to lather ever crack and crevise of your pump with silicone . I wanted to take my own life when I saw all the silicone John put on his pump . It took a 3 ft. crow bar , alot of finesse , even more foul language and about 5 min. to get this transome cover off .



Soooooo it's out and OH MY FUKIN GOD ! What the hell did John do ?!







Over the hand hole as well !



Off came the Jet-a-way . Which I might add is amazing in it simplicity alone . Major kuddos to Duane over at Hi-tech .



With the aid of the berkely tool set this is what we found !







An inside shot.



Check out the 2 grooves it left in the impellor !



Here is the culprit . I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it is a piece of gauld up aliminum . It was definatly aluminum though .





I had to double drill the new suction housing because the Jet-a-way uses 8 bolts versus the berkely 4.



Once again Tom @ Jet Boat Performance to the rescue . Tom overnighted an impellor with the matching wear ring so John could get it on saturday . We reassembled the suction housing with the new impellor and we could not for the life of get his old bearing out .

NOTE PEOPLE :  Do not let the powder coater get powder coat on anything other than the surface that will be showing .
 
So after pacing back and forth like caged animals and already facing defeat I remembered that I had a bearing in stock , on the shelf , ready for installation .  ;D Team Cold Beer racing to the rescue !  ;D  :D

Got the shaft in .



Impellor on . Dont forget the keyway people !



Got the Jet-a-way back on .



Torqued the bowl down and there you have it . A reassembled pump .







I will say that you could turn the shaft by hand before but after , you could turn it with 2 fingers and it felt like butter . Oh so smooth .

Well it went back in with no muss and no fuss .









At this point , I'm panicing because I work on my own shit all the time . This is someone elses boat and I would hate for something to happen to someone elses ride due to my incapability or even worse , somebody gettin hurt . He stuck around till the next day and we hit Elsinore . Drove through a monsoon and we are on the water .

Passed the leak check and we're off !



NOW FUKIN HAMMER IT !!!!!!  ;D



So there you have it folks . Another great day For "Team Cold Beer Racing !"

For those that dont know . Heres "Topless" and her stalker "Jetaholic"



I am not a proffesional ! This is by no means meant to be taken as instructions on how to work on your pump. There are plenty of proffessionals out there who are willing to give great and proffessional advise ! 

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2007, 07:40:20 PM »
you wanna be my hero :-*
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2007, 08:04:25 PM »
way to go beerjet......i know what you mean about always working on your own stuff but when you do it for others, there is always that nervous minute when its go time  ;D
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2007, 08:16:39 PM »
Sik thread. Thanks. Really good looking boat BTW.
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beerjet

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2007, 08:56:47 PM »
Sik thread. Thanks. Really good looking boat BTW.
The boat is gorgeous and he hasn't even detailed it yet . That was just a wet wipe down .

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2007, 08:59:53 PM »
Now that is a great thread!  Thanks a million.  I would feel a little better pulling mine off now.
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2007, 10:00:25 PM »
Nice Boat
Nice Write up
Nice Pics

'nuff said.


Major kudos to Omar for helpin him out.  ;D
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2007, 10:13:45 PM »
Yeah I gotta say...a million thanks to Omar for helping me out with this. I couldn't find anyone here locally that could help with this project, but I knew Omar had done a few pumps so I called on him to help me with this one.

Once we got the pump back together and spun it by hand I could tell a night and day difference...I just knew it was gonna work.

He even had a set of header water lines to replace the ones on my right header that got burned up due to a battery shorting on them (the battery wasn't hooked up at the time that happened).

Then I got ahold of Topless from Hot Boat, and she invited us over. And of course we brought alcohol...was planning on driving home that night until the alcohol started flowin'. So I opted to stay another night and spent the night at Topless's place.

The next day we hit Elsinore...even though the water was rough I had a blast. And the boat did wonderfully.

Then today I got off work early and went to a local lake here...again the boat did great.

And again a major thanks to Tom at Jet Boat Performance for hookin' up the parts quickly and answering any and all questions we had regarding the reassembly.

This is what I love about the boating community...everyone steps in to help each other out in a pinch.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2007, 10:16:34 PM by Jetaholic »
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2007, 11:06:01 PM »
So how in the hell  does someone crack their pump like that???????????
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beerjet

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2007, 11:09:27 PM »
So how in the hell  does someone crack their pump like that???????????
The only thing I could think of was when the boat came down from hoping a wake , the impellor tried to jam and the torque of the motor cracked the housing . Other than that I dont know . Jetaholic was going to take it to Toms to get his opinion . I'm very curious myself.

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2007, 11:10:48 PM »
Keep us posted!
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

beerjet

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2007, 11:22:07 PM »
Keep us posted!
Hopefully Tom or someone that really knows whats goin on will .

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2007, 11:36:28 PM »
where was that wad of aluminum wedged? is that what caused the groves in the impeller?
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2007, 10:27:33 PM »
where was that wad of aluminum wedged? is that what caused the groves in the impeller?
This is how it came out of the pump .



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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2007, 09:08:13 PM »
Great job Omar, way to go helping out a fellow jetter 8)
« Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 11:15:29 PM by Emanon Performance Marine »
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2007, 09:41:17 PM »
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beerjet

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2007, 09:59:01 PM »
Jon said he finally got his boat up to 65mph ,














and then backed off .  :o

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2007, 10:42:14 PM »
DAMN,


What hull is that?


DAMN  :o

That is a Placecraft Tunnel Dragster
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2007, 10:43:28 PM »
That is a Placecraft Tunnel Dragster

why the thread jack?
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2007, 10:52:32 PM »
why the thread jack?
It was for Jon (Jetaholic) while I was on the phone with him, we were talking about upswept headers.
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2007, 10:55:58 PM »
The blown boat is for jon , he's in awe of sorts that someone would get in one knowing the power that they have . He still hasnt flat footed his own boat , so a blown boat kind of raises his eye brows . With that being said , it's kind of an inside thing and has nothing to do with the TECH end of my thread and could have been handled in a PM .

I am going to start smiting "thread jackers" at will for uneeded comments that divert threads in a diffrent direction .It's not fair to lurkers and anyone watching a thread go away to some other topic in hope of getting something out of it . Contribute to the threads or use a PM.

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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2007, 12:15:02 AM »


Well now there be the problem....you've done broke your doo hickie that bolts to the thing-a-ma-bob ;D
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2007, 09:56:03 AM »
Nice work and good thread beerjet and Jon ,shows teamwork and friendship and comraderie. We're pleased that all worked out well and Jons back in the H20   Tom

btw we see cracks like the one in the cleanout area commonly (similar to Jons) suctions (especially "e" suctions) and IMO can occur with "loading" problems,flying the boat etc  however this cracked suction was not due to that (again IMO) I'd be honored  to see all the pieces some day if you saved them just for the heck of it .. Tom

BTW.. everyone periodically check your "cleanout bolts" for saftey's sake


« Last Edit: September 07, 2007, 10:10:59 AM by jet boat performance »
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2007, 10:04:28 AM »
Good job guys.

There are probably 3 of those sitting on a shelf at Aggressor looking nearly identical to that.... Correlation between them all? I don't know? Before I sold my jet, I called Berkeley to ask questions to find out when exactly the pump was made, etc. etc. They couldn't answer a single question for me. Jetboat performance did however answer my questions. At the same time I had some Panther questions to ask for my friend all they did was tell me a Panther won't do over 55. When I told them it did much more than that I couldn't produce any proof. Now I can, hopefully Tom gets to this thread...

The video's of the boat actually running down river were from last season when it had a 142 Weiand on it. The one in the driveway is with the 6v71 TBS blower.


We're going dead even 60 on a GPS speedo in this last one and the panther starts leaving us behind...
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Re: Jetahloics pump rebuild
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2007, 10:33:28 AM »
Undone Truly Very Impressive !!That boat really runs well!!! although I don't remember the exact conversation and appologize if I may have discouraged you ,its no secret to most folks Panthers in stock form are not my favorite jet drive .. Still Nice boat, Great vid .thanks for sharing  (sorry for the thread jack Brad)  Tom
« Last Edit: September 07, 2007, 10:35:51 AM by jet boat performance »
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