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Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« on: June 28, 2015, 12:00:17 PM »
Changed out my old Teflon nozzle o-ring for a brand new one, the new o-ring has a .210 thickness (verified with calipers) which I have been told is for the Place diverter while the smaller diameter o-ring is for stock Berk.

However once installed, the nozzle doesn't seem to fit tight at all in the steering knuckle. I have replaced the nyliners as well around the steering pins. I stuck my hand up in the nozzle with a flashlight and you can clearly see light coming through between the knuckle wall and the o-ring...doesn't seem like a tight seal at all.

Is there an oversize o-ring for Place Diverter? It's possible that I may have had something like that originally, as the old o-ring was pretty badly worn on one side of it where it contacts the inside of the knuckle which makes me think it was sealing tight, or tight enough that it was constantly scraping the sides of the knuckle. Unfortunately I didn't really check to see how tight my old o-ring was before I took it off. The new one doesn't seem to be touching the inside of the knuckle at all. It's possible that the inside of the knuckle is slightly worn due to sand and being 20 years old, but even so the old o-ring still sealed much better then the new one. Both are white and seem to be the same material. Any ideas?
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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2015, 03:11:17 PM »
How does the spherical bore in the knuckle look?  Sometimes they get some excessive wear.
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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2015, 04:15:21 PM »
How does the spherical bore in the knuckle look?  Sometimes they get some excessive wear.

It didnt look too bad. The paint/powdercoat was rubbed clean off in the travel area but I didnt feel a major difference in wall degredation. See attached pics of the inside of knuckle and the new o-ring installed/nozzle installed.
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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2015, 04:31:05 PM »
Looks like you got a pretty mean groove worn in the socket.  If the powder coat was just worn off, you would feel like a smooth continuous radius.  Without seeing it in person, I can't say for sure, but I am betting that it is maybe time to upgrade to a droop.
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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2015, 07:24:29 AM »
Yeah I hear ya, there is some wear for sure, but it was sealing better with the old o-ring, that's all I'm trying to figure out why. I'm gunna have to call Place and see if they made some oversize o-ring for a worn knuckle because it really seems like that's what I had in there.  If upgrading/new knuckle is the only answer then well...it's a boat!
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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2015, 07:57:18 AM »
Take the ring off carefully to not damage it... then wrap pipe tape sealer around the groove a few times or ad a rubber band to the groove to add a thin layer. Re install ring. The tape will last longer...

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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2015, 09:29:01 AM »
I actually thought about doing that.. wasn't sure if it would cause the o-ring to blow off due to it not sitting far enough in the groove though if I filled up the groove with Teflon tape. Idk how I'm gunna get that thing out without damaging it though, it's in there tight lol. Called Place, they said they never made an oversized o-ring so I guess I'm stuck with the size I got and I need to buy a new nozzle dammit.
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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2015, 09:32:12 AM »
Lot of people upgraded this winter.  I'm sure you can find a good used one.  Post a WTB
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Re: Place Diverter nozzle o-ring clearance
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2015, 03:18:12 PM »
Not a bad idea. thanks for the info!
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