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ron.h

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Pump housing removal
« on: February 15, 2016, 01:21:12 PM »
I have a jf Berkeley Any good ideas on how to get the silicone or whatever they use to seal the pump housing to the hall
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ron.h

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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2016, 01:24:04 PM »
And what is the best sealer to use to resell it back to the boat
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 01:38:49 PM »
Do you have the pump removed? Or is that the question?

At the factory,  all JE and JF pumps were installed to the insert using 3M 5200 Marine Sealant.

The stuff is silly strong,  as far as I know there is no chemical way to remove it.  Just mechanical. A very sharp razor blade is your friend.
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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 01:58:08 PM »
Yeah that's what I was afraid of
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 01:58:17 PM »
That stuff is like rock hard
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 02:18:03 PM »
If it is 3M 5200 - removal: mechanical removal, clean-up: mineral spirits or kerosene.

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/3m--5200-polyurethane-adhesive-sealant--P004_127_002_507

Quote from: ron.h on February 15, 2016, 01:24:04 PM
And what is the best sealer to use to resell it back to the boat

Anything that is 100% silicone.
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 02:24:12 PM »
Should I use the 3m 5200 to
 install it
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 02:51:09 PM »
Quote from: ron.h on February 15, 2016, 02:24:12 PM
Should I use the 3m 5200 to
 install it

Well honestly,  I like the adhesive properties and durability of the 5200.

It's incredibly strong and makes the bond between the insert and the pump pretty much bulletproof.

It's just a mofo to remove.

GT

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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Quote from: IRRebel on June 11, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2016, 05:40:21 PM »
Are you wanting to rebuild it?  If the suction housing isn't damaged, rebuild it in the boat.
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2016, 05:58:43 PM »
That means pulling the engine back out
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2016, 06:15:07 PM »
Quote from: ron.h on February 15, 2016, 05:58:43 PM
That means pulling the engine back out

Pulling the engine is the lesser of the two evils IMO.

Those pumps were never designed to be removed.

GT
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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Quote from: IRRebel on June 11, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2016, 08:41:55 AM »
Use one of those blades that as it dulls, u break off the dull section and click up to the sharp section. Extend it out where its a long enough to get it into the silicone and just keep slicing around and around. It takes a long time. Patience.
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2016, 12:32:27 PM »
I would try a Fein tool or the like with a good blade attachment. These things have gotten me out of serious jams and will cut almost anything with the right attachment.


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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2016, 01:11:53 PM »
The best way to get it out is used in acetylene torch to heat it until the epoxy softens and the bond yields.  As bitchin as I think those tools are, you will never get it out.

Your best bet, if the suction housing is not damaged, pull the engine and rebuild the pump inside the boat.

If you do get it out, you are going to have hours of grinding on both the hull and the pump and ir will take a ton of epoxy to put it back in.  The epoxy alone will cost you over $100.
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2016, 04:07:22 PM »
Quote from: Flusher on March 05, 2016, 01:11:53 PM
The best way to get it out is used in acetylene torch to heat it until the epoxy softens and the bond yields.  As bitchin as I think those tools are, you will never get it out.

Your best bet, if the suction housing is not damaged, pull the engine and rebuild the pump inside the boat.

If you do get it out, you are going to have hours of grinding on both the hull and the pump and ir will take a ton of epoxy to put it back in.  The epoxy alone will cost you over $100.

Not sure he's talking intake.

Maybe.
GT
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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Quote from: IRRebel on June 11, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray

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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2016, 04:39:04 PM »
Quote from: GT Jets on March 05, 2016, 04:07:22 PM
Not sure he's talking intake.

Maybe.
GT

Maybe I didn't read closely enough, but aren't we talking about removing a JF pump for rebuild?
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Re: Pump housing removal
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2016, 05:36:45 PM »
Quote from: Flusher on March 05, 2016, 04:39:04 PM
Maybe I didn't read closely enough, but aren't we talking about removing a JF pump for rebuild?


Yeah,  my bad,  good got my threads crossed.

You're on it brotato chip.

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Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on December 22, 2009, 07:40:31 PM
If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Quote from: IRRebel on June 11, 2011, 07:30:45 PM
Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
Ray
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