Spit bowl questions

« **on:** June 25, 2014, 01:44:36 PM »

Hi All,

I have a great condition 12JC Pump for my rogers, but i really need a split bowl. My question is can i just simply buy any split bowl and bolt it on? Or amn i stuck with only one style?

Im also looking at picking up a Legend 8 vane split bowl with studs from the other site but i dont know if this will work on my 12jc pump?

Anyone have a split bowl they wanna sell?

thnaks

steve

« **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2014, 01:47:02 PM »

legend bowl will not fit

« **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2014, 01:48:18 PM »

Quote from: jim brock on June 25, 2014, 01:47:02 PM

legend bowl will not fit

Okay cool thanks. What ones will so i know what to look for?

« **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2014, 01:50:57 PM »

I just put a early Dominator bowl on my JC

« **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2014, 02:09:37 PM »

Look for a dominator or Berkley bud. Or you can fork out 1000$ for an AMT 9.5 bowl

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« **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2014, 02:10:56 PM »

Quote from: jyeager on June 25, 2014, 02:09:37 PM

Look for a dominator or Berkley bud.

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will do. So any berkeley split bowl will work?

« **Reply #6 on:** June 25, 2014, 02:37:17 PM »

Ya you can use a dominator bowl or the berkeleys, The Berkeley bowls that u can use are the G bowl and the B bowl. Both of those will allow you to switch over to a split bowl set up.

« **Reply #7 on:** June 25, 2014, 05:37:55 PM »

Or a modified split c bowl (sold one last year)... I have an early aggressor 9 that worked with my jc and fit the trans adapter as well. Some of the other splits will fit but machining needs to be done. I have another 9 on the shelf for backup.

« **Reply #8 on:** June 25, 2014, 05:50:24 PM »

I have a stupid question.

Why do you "need" a split bowl?

I have one here, it is actually a complete pump, I have two complete pumps, a JC and a JG.

What are you trying to achieve?

Talk to me Goose....

GT

« **Reply #9 on:** June 25, 2014, 06:24:32 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 25, 2014, 05:50:24 PM

I have a stupid question.

Why do you "need" a split bowl?

I have one here, it is actually a complete pump, I have two complete pumps, a JC and a JG.

What are you trying to achieve?

Talk to me Goose....

GT

Probably since it's az Rogers wants to play with wedges droops and see what his ride can achieve jeesh glen maybe he's like the test of us and just can't leave alone. More than likely he wants to put a place Diverter on

j/k bud

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« **Reply #10 on:** June 25, 2014, 07:07:38 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 25, 2014, 05:50:24 PM

I have a stupid question.

Why do you "need" a split bowl?

I have one here, it is actually a complete pump, I have two complete pumps, a JC and a JG.

What are you trying to achieve?

Talk to me Goose....

GT

Hey maverick

I talked to Chris at b1 today about doing my intake, and ride plate. While talking to him the goals of my engine and where I will use it came up along with what jet I have. I told him I have a JC and he highly recommended going to a split bowl. Especially since shooting for the 700 HP mark. So with the power goals and what not he says to not use the JC and that he doesn't recommend setting a ride plate up with a JC. I'm paraphrasing and he didn't say exactly that. Just that its a lot easier with a split bow

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« **Reply #11 on:** June 25, 2014, 07:38:26 PM »

Quote from: steves86ta on June 25, 2014, 07:07:38 PM

Hey maverick

I talked to Chris at b1 today about doing my intake, and ride plate. While talking to him the goals of my engine and where I will use it came up along with what jet I have. I told him I have a JC and he highly recommended going to a split bowl. Especially since shooting for the 700 HP mark. So with the power goals and what not he says to not use the JC and that he doesn't recommend setting a ride plate up with a JC. I'm paraphrasing and he didn't say exactly that. Just that its a lot easier with a split bow

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OK, that makes some sense, he want's to build the ride plate to a bulkhead plate on the end of the bowl, it can be done and has, but many people "think" they need a G bowl when in reality they don't.

How are you getting to your HP goal? (what kind of rev's we talkin'?).

This will determine more about how you build the pump than virtually anything else.

Requesting permission for a fly by... Over.

GT

« **Reply #12 on:** June 25, 2014, 07:40:54 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 25, 2014, 07:38:26 PM

OK, that makes some sense, he want's to build the ride plate to a bulkhead plate on the end of the bowl, it can be done and has, but many people "think" they need a G bowl when in reality they don't.

How are you getting to your HP goal? (what kind of rev's we talkin'?).

This will determine more about how you build the pump than virtually anything else.

Requesting permission for a fly by... Over.

GT

Call the ball... BTW my absolute favorite movie of all time

I would have to look at the build again but if j remember correctly the power was around 6500-7k I'll get the link and post it up. Should be healthy as hell

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« **Reply #13 on:** June 25, 2014, 07:44:45 PM »

Here's the build article
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/project-cars/sucp-0310-jegs-high-performance-engine/viewall.html

And the dyno result article
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/project-cars/sucp-0312-496-street-bruiser/

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« **Reply #14 on:** June 25, 2014, 07:56:02 PM »

Quote from: steves86ta on June 25, 2014, 07:40:54 PM

Call the ball... BTW my absolute favorite movie of all time

I would have to look at the build again but if j remember correctly the power was around 6500-7k I'll get the link and post it up. Should be healthy as hell

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Healthy as hell, but hard to get hooked up.

Going to recommend you find a 9 vane bowl, probably OK with a Berk stainless impeller, but stuff the snot out of it. May even consider an inducing impeller, she won't stay hooked otherwise.

Sound like fun. If you can build some HP in the mid 5000's you will be much better off.... Once you get passed around 6,000 RPM the impeller efficiency really takes a crap. The turbine powered guys are even running them at about 6,100 RPM. And they're seeing speeds in the 150 MPH range...

Quote from: steves86ta on June 25, 2014, 07:44:45 PM

Here's the build article
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/project-cars/sucp-0310-jegs-high-performance-engine/viewall.html

And the dyno result article
http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/project-cars/sucp-0312-496-street-bruiser/

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I keep telling you guys it takes torque to turn the jet pumps... Look at where that dyno sheet crosses HP and torque...

That motor is going to stop like a Donkey taking a dump at about 5,400 RPM. Be one seriously bitchen v-drive motor though...

I recommend rethinking the cam... Big time.

Just my opinion, but seen it 100X before.

And not communicating while inverted...

GT

« **Reply #15 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:01:26 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on June 25, 2014, 07:56:02 PM

And not communicating while inverted...

GT

You know, the finger.... LMAO

« **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:03:09 PM »

Lol what would you recommend for cam? That's one of the few things I wanted to change. Kinda wanna go solid roller

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« **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:08:59 PM »

Quote from: steves86ta on June 25, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

Lol what would you recommend for cam? That's one of the few things I wanted to change. Kinda wanna go solid roller

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Definitely solid roller. Let me check it out for a few... In all honesty, probably NOT going to be an off the shelf stick, although I know of some in stock cams that kick ass...

You can be my wing-man anytime...

GT

« **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:11:27 PM »

Yeah I emailed comp. They recommended a custom grind. Something around 240/250 112 LSA and 600" lift or so. They want 389.99 for a custom solid roller billet cam.

You're shitting me. An instructor at top gun

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« **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:16:22 PM »

Quote from: steves86ta on June 25, 2014, 08:11:27 PM

Yeah I emailed comp. They recommended a custom grind. Something around 240/250 112 LSA and 600" lift or so. They want 389.99 for a custom solid roller billet cam.

You're shitting me. An instructor at top gun

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Bullshit ten minutes, this thing will be over in two minutes.... Get on it!

Where is Ralph when you need him?

Good aint cheap and cheap aint good.

GT

« **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:17:12 PM »

Its classified.

Lol Ralph?

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« **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:23:02 PM »

Quote from: steves86ta on June 25, 2014, 08:17:12 PM

Its classified.

Lol Ralph?

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Ralph Brunt..

Oh shit, Viper is up here with us...

« **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:23:48 PM »

Quote from: steves86ta on June 25, 2014, 08:03:09 PM

Lol what would you recommend for cam? That's one of the few things I wanted to change. Kinda wanna go solid roller

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Work with Starkweaher on the cam/motor/ jet combo. It's what I did. I made. 625 on the dyno and spin a b- to 6300 to 6400 on a good air day. Chris knows his shit. Guy made my heavy pile run into the 90's all motor.

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« **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2014, 08:24:01 PM »

This can go on a while....

Merlin just lost it. Just turned in his wings.

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