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GAWnCA

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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2008, 09:39:17 PM »
Well, say what you will, I have absolutely NO play with the nylon bushing and the bolt is threaded into the control arm and the ny-loc nut is there just to fill in the space and hold everything there together.  All the nylon does is align everything.  This is my first season with that set up so I'll give the finial verdict later on.  It's just a spacer, not the controlling surface.
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2008, 10:07:09 PM »
Nylon= no good.
There's too much sheer force on the nut/bolt combo when you're turining your wheel and nothing to hold it in place, that bushing will give and your steering will get sloppy, ask me how I know.  If you've got access to a Lowe's you can find S/S bushings just like the nylon one you have, add some A/N washers to minimize the friction and you're shittin' in tall cotton.
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76NORDIC

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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2008, 10:55:21 PM »
Hey Skip you know from experience?  Fill me in bud
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2008, 11:10:42 PM »
Ok, first off, I just looked at your pic again, you've already got the swivel deal that Beerjet was refering to, take those washers out, loosen the swivel thing a bit and retighten the bolt in the tiller arm, then tighten up the swivel thing.

How I know is that I had the same bushing/spacer on another boat I had and each time I took it out the steering got a bit sloppier, not being in the frame of mind to think the bushing was failing I wrote it off to a bad cable and let it go for the time being, long story short, bolt broke in the middle of the freakin' lake, first day of a 3 day trip, I was pissed.
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2008, 11:52:07 AM »
Here is how I know, this is a "pile" of a 1986 bubble deck Bahner jet. Broke the very end off of the tiller arm off and met with an unimpressed rock at about 40MPH! >:D Luckily it happened to my nieghbor and no one was hurt, but I bought the boat from him for $50 less engine and trailer and got some sweet bling! Never spend too little time in the area of controls...
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2008, 08:15:41 AM »
Alright, so I went and got the swivel kit for my pump and I still have to run washers to hook everything up.  It solved my alignment problem a little, still rubs the side of the shaft on the tube but not as bad.   
The thing is, when I go to hook up my swivel kit to my steering arm, the arm and tube are so rigid that I have to run washers under the swivel to bring it up and meet it with the steering arm.
So it brings it to my next question......  Is my steering tube supposed to be so tight that it causes the tube to be rigid or will the black bushing that comes with the kit, provide a water tight seal with the nuts being loose enough to allow the tube to move?   ???
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2008, 09:05:46 AM »
The tube has to be able to move fairly free, the cable tube moves side to side when you steer, if the tube is oversnugged (word?) it could fatigue and possibly fail. :)

And that would suck! :P
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2008, 10:35:32 AM »
The tube has to be able to move fairly free, the cable tube moves side to side when you steer, if the tube is oversnugged (word?) it could fatigue and possibly fail. :)

And that would suck! :P

That helps alot, because when I got the boat... it was tight so I assumed it was supposed to be tight (the nuts on both sides of the steering tube).  So I will buy a new bushing and redo it. 
Will that bushing provide a water tight seal or should I put something on it to help it's water tight ablity?
And thanks for the quick response!!
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2008, 07:57:18 PM »
The tube should seal up pretty well with just the seal, I don't use any sealants but dont know if anyone else does, I do however use some elastomeric silicone on the nuts that go over the tube, literally just a small dab, to keep the nuts from moving sot of like cheap thread locker, but thats it.

Don't use too much, or you will never get it apart.
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2008, 07:51:10 AM »
 ;D  Thanks!  I am off to Eddie Marine to get a new seal.
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Re: Steering Question....
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2008, 06:54:22 AM »
Well I put everything together last week and tested it out this Monday.  Everything worked great and it's amazing how good the steering works without a ton of washers in the back of it.
thanks for everyones help!
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