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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2008, 07:18:57 AM »
my panther jet has no access cover on the top of the pump. you have to go thru the grate
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2008, 10:08:15 AM »
Ok....I am going to take pictures of my Jet from the inside of the boat to see if you guys can tell me if the Hand Hole cover is there or not. I havent had the time to look up into the grate yet. I tried right after it hapenned but its so far that its really hard to get under there. I will probly do that this weekend. I will check in those 2 spots and if I dont find anything then I will let you know GT and then we can go from there. Seems like you know of a few different possibilities. I am really just hoping its something stuck in there. Like I said before....the boat was running good and strong with no problems untill I got gas on the water in a deep spot too. I was on Lake Mohave by laughlin and if you ever seen where you gas up there by Katherine Landing its really deep but there are ropes and stuff there so I am hoping to find something.
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2008, 02:15:33 PM »
my panther jet has no access cover on the top of the pump. you have to go thru the grate

Well Panther Jets suck! ;D
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2008, 02:18:39 PM »
Well Panther Jets suck! ;D


Now thats just not nice ::)

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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2008, 03:02:02 PM »
its not nice but i will have to agree. has anyone on here heard anything good about the repower package they offer now? with diverter and all that jazz. its like 3k.
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2008, 07:56:44 PM »
its not nice but i will have to agree. has anyone on here heard anything good about the repower package they offer now? with diverter and all that jazz. its like 3k.

If your talkin Panther conversion,yes around 3k with trim Tom
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2008, 08:15:53 PM »
its not nice but i will have to agree. has anyone on here heard anything good about the repower package they offer now? with diverter and all that jazz. its like 3k.

I couldn't think of a better way to express how I felt. So, I just came out and said it. ;D

3K!!!!!!! :o :o :o

Probably be cheaper to pull the Panther out and glass in a Berk. But, everyones got their own opinion on that subject, and some people just like to be different. O0
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2008, 05:51:56 AM »
On my CV23 there is a little button that pulls out to engage a Neutral right at the throttle.   Does you boat have one???
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2008, 07:29:43 AM »
On my CV23 there is a little button that pulls out to engage a Neutral right at the throttle.   Does you boat have one???

Electro, Morse (and similar) combination hand throttle/shifters have a "neutral" push pull button which internally disengages the shift function to allow throttle only operation (engine warm up etc) The majority of boats we see /deal with have foot throttle with seperate fwd/rev shifter . As i'm sure you know Jets have no "true" nuetral and will nearly always move/creap one way or the other when that "button' function is used Tom

Hj  Regarding the expense of the Panther conversion vs the removing of the Panther to modify the hulll for a Berk style jet ,if done right the conversion is still much less $ time you factor the intensive (10 to 12 hrs min) labor to remove ,build in glass ,fabricate transom pieces, rebuilt a jet ,the expense of the jet and intake,different drive line not to mention all the annsulary parts and pieces etc which add up . We done several full swaps (not cheap) ;)
 
« Last Edit: July 12, 2008, 07:33:15 AM by jet boat performance »
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2008, 03:28:58 AM »
Hj  Regarding the expense of the Panther conversion vs the removing of the Panther to modify the hulll for a Berk style jet ,if done right the conversion is still much less $ time you factor the intensive (10 to 12 hrs min) labor to remove ,build in glass ,fabricate transom pieces, rebuilt a jet ,the expense of the jet and intake,different drive line not to mention all the annsulary parts and pieces etc which add up . We done several full swaps (not cheap) ;)
 


Thank you very much Tom! ;D

How well does a converted Panther perform, compared to a Berk style pump? Cause the Panthers are axial flow pumps whereas the Berk styles are mixed flow pumps. Does the conversion also convert to a mixed flow impeller? Or are the main issues with the pump just the flow of the bowl and nozzle? Cause I know that the crazy Canadians at Outlaw Eagle Manufacturing use axial flow pumps in their aluminum river boats, and they get some pretty decent #'s out of those things. ;D

Thanks again Tom for the clarification! ;D
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2008, 07:09:41 AM »
i have been trying to get a definate report on the repower package because i am thinking of doing the swap after this season. but if it is not going to be a drastic change i am not going to worry about it till my pump dies.
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2008, 03:41:34 PM »
Ok so I dug into my Jet this weekend. I couldnt believe what I found. First of all my friend is a drunken idiot just to put that out there. So when we were out there on the boat that day the rubber lining on my boat kept hanging off a little in some spots....I think it needed to be replaced. It was bugging my friend so he asked me if he could just pull the whole thing off because I needed a new one anyways so im like whatever I dont care. Im sure you know where this is going by now but uh yeah......never saw where he actually put the rubber but apparently he threw it in the water right under my boat. It took me 5 hours on Saturday to get out what I did. The whole rubber lining was in there wrapped around the shaft. Meanwhile the "friend" who did this was at the river again while I was sweatin my ass off fixing his mistake. Not to mention earlier that day we were chillin with some other guys who had bigger badder boats with props and they just kept talking about how my boat was a piece of shit....jokingly of course but then that happens and I had no clue at the time as to what was wrong with my boat.....so yeah of course I showed up the next day without my boat and those guys just laughed. Thats all I kept thinkin about as I was using a razor to cut through each layer of this lining. But yeah....I am at work right now and I have pictures I am going to post up tonight because I am sure you guys would like to see....and have a good Laugh. I have a problem I wanted to ask you guys about though. There is still a little bit of that rubber in there. Its too deep to get to it from the top opening so I went underneath the boat. I can see the last pieces from the bottom but I need to remove the grate to get to them. The screws are flathead screws and there are 2 of them that I just cannot get off. I tried and tried to get them off and they just wont budge. Was wondering if anyone has come accross this problem before and how you would go about getting those screws loose. I will check back a little later to see what you guys say and also to post pictures of this stupidity. Thanks for the help also. My Jet does have a hand hole cover right on top and thats how I got most of it out.
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #37 on: July 14, 2008, 04:26:08 PM »
Word of advice. Don't invite your friend the next time you go out. Try to fish the rest of the rubber (I am assuming rub rail insert) piece with a coat hanger. I had to do this with a Kawi Jet ski to get a piece of wood. Once you get it up and running just run past those big boats when they go to get on plane.
  T.J.

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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #38 on: July 14, 2008, 04:27:54 PM »
and smack the shit out of your friend for just tossing the rubber into the water and not disposing of it properly.
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #39 on: July 14, 2008, 04:43:21 PM »
Don't know if its a good idea or not, but if you have a torch heat up the screws that should break them free ???

Send your friend the bill :mad:

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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2008, 11:08:54 PM »
Ok here are the pics.....





 :banghead:

Well while I am into my pictures I thought I would show off the rest of my boat. I just got it a couple months ago. I know the engine isnt as nice as alot of others on this site but its my first boat so bare with me

engine..




Here is my Jet....still dont know what kind it is maybe you guys can help?







and finally here is the boat...



I have a bimini it just isnt on in these pics.







Any suggestions are much appreciated.
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2008, 11:13:58 PM »
 :o :o :o Dude, thats a lot of crap!!!!, pretty funny if you really think about it. Thats a nice little boat.
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If i get some free time tonight at work, ill play with it and post it for everyone to see.

Time to man up and yank it John!  :banghead:
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2008, 08:56:00 AM »
that had to be fun, pulling all that crap out of there, at least it was something minor, cool looking boat, i like the layout of it. :)
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2008, 09:16:33 AM »
just one of those peices would have done it, you dont mess around. tell yer buddy thanks for throwing that shit in the river
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2008, 09:21:52 AM »
I know....I already told him hes an idiot. Trust me I dont ever litter anywhere and he knows that shit pisses me off......thats why I was dumbfounded when I saw what was in my Jet. Hey speaking of Jet.....anyone know what kind I have?
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2008, 09:23:49 AM »
if it wasnt you it would have been the next guy... or two ...or three
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2008, 10:05:27 AM »
Uhhh yes I know this.....thanx for pointing that out sir   :screwy: Im not the one who threw it in there and I would never do anything like that. Hence the drunken idiot comment about my friend. And dont worry.....my boat picked up the whole thing so its not in the river anymore  ;D

Any ideas on what kind of Jet ive got here? Its just blank. doesnt say anything anywhere.
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2008, 10:10:46 AM »
GoKart,
 Did you thow that rub rail insert out yet. I have been looking for a piece for my Nordic and it looks the same. It may sound stupid but some of it looks salvagable. I need like 8 feet.
I will pay shipping via paypal if you have it still. PM me if you do.
T.J.

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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2008, 10:40:59 AM »
Sorry T.J. I dont think you want any of this lining. Its was wrapped around the shaft really really tight. I had to go at it with a razor blade. I dont even think there is a 2 foot piece still intact. Not to mention its just really messed up.

Jet??
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Re: Think something is wrong with my Jet
« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2008, 10:47:57 AM »
Jet??

Im probably way off , but im gonna say it's a Bay Jet ???

Anybody  :sly:
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=2504.0
2sav
« Last Edit: July 15, 2008, 10:54:42 AM by 2savage4you »
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