White lightning Top Loaders

« **on:** January 07, 2009, 09:56:49 AM »

Any one have or heard of these? If so, which one and how do you like it? MPH numbers if you have them please.

Thanks

« **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2009, 09:41:08 PM »

There made by Jim at Perrformance boats in Sebastopol , some people 'swear" by them honestly not sure a "top loader" would be a good choice for your boat ,just my 02 Tom

« **Reply #2 on:** January 09, 2009, 07:14:04 AM »

Thanks Tom, I will be getting with you about a Diverter here in the future, just got to make up my mind on man vs hyd.

« **Reply #3 on:** February 08, 2009, 01:02:21 AM »

Quote from: KonaCole on January 09, 2009, 07:14:04 AM

Thanks Tom, I will be getting with you about a Diverter here in the future, just got to make up my mind on man vs hyd.

As far as comparing them to other loaders I honestly can't do that. However I do run a White Lightning loader and over a rock grate I did pick up about 5mph as well as a tremendous amount of pull in the midrange. It will load your pump harder so you may lose a couple hundred RPM, but IMHO they're well worth it.

With a 500hp 454, American Turbine AB impeller, Agressor droop and White Lightning top loader, in an 18' Tahiti style boat my top speed was 79mph @ 5400RPM with no shoe or ride plate.

« **Reply #4 on:** February 08, 2009, 09:40:09 AM »

Quote from: Jetaholic on February 08, 2009, 01:02:21 AM

As far as comparing them to other loaders I honestly can't do that. However I do run a White Lightning loader and over a rock grate I did pick up about 5mph as well as a tremendous amount of pull in the midrange. It will load your pump harder so you may lose a couple hundred RPM, but IMHO they're well worth it.

With a 500hp 454, American Turbine AB impeller, Agressor droop and White Lightning top loader, in an 18' Tahiti style boat my top speed was 79mph @ 5400RPM with no shoe or ride plate.

John that some good mph for that hull did you have some work done to the bottom of the Tahiti style boat ? Just got me thinking

I'm running a little more HP 18' Eliminator hull Agressor pump and i don't run that kind of mph.

« **Reply #5 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:15:15 PM »

Probably cuz your motor is just starting to make power at 5k.
Honestly, I'd get the same or similar set up that was on there before Brian.

-beerjet-

« **Reply #6 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:19:02 PM »

Quote from: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 04:15:15 PM

Probably cuz your motor is just starting to make power at 5k.
Honestly, I'd get the same or similar set up that was on there before Brian.

-beerjet-

start over

Ill get it to go big just watch

« **Reply #7 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:20:26 PM »

I would like to try one of these loaders on the Hondo, I have a super sport now and it seems like the ass is still stuck to the water... needs to be lifted a little more

These are a blocker style loader correct? I'm running an A impeller right now, goin to turn it down to a B.... I've also "heard" that these loaders let a little more cavitation increase and allows the motor to turn a bit more RPM compared to a normal loader like a super sport.... any opinions?

18' Hondo T-Deck Pantera
550hp BBC
A/T Droop, A impeller
Supersport loader
Shoe and rideplate
NOT set back pump
Have tried up and down 2* wedge....
No Hook, rounded keel

Anyone with a similar set up on this style boat?

« **Reply #8 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:24:49 PM »

Sounds like we are going to have to start a new thread on this one.good start PW-Tony

« **Reply #9 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:26:31 PM »

Quote from: pw_Tony on February 08, 2009, 04:20:26 PM

I would like to try one of these loaders on the Hondo, I have a super sport now and it seems like the ass is still stuck to the water... needs to be lifted a little more These are a blocker style loader correct? I'm running an A impeller right now, goin to turn it down to a B.... I've also "heard" that these loaders let a little more cavitation increase and allows the motor to turn a bit more RPM compared to a normal loader like a super sport.... any opinions?

18' Hondo T-Deck Pantera
550hp BBC
A/T Droop, A impeller
Supersport loader
Shoe and rideplate
NOT set back pump
Have tried up and down 2* wedge....
No Hook, rounded keel

Anyone with a similar set up on this style boat?

my hondo was a turd i sold the hondo and got the liberty and gained 10mph with the same motor

« **Reply #10 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:27:14 PM »

Anyone gotten the down low at MPD.
I havent ran one but talkin with Jack, they all sound like one off pieces for (relatively) not alot of scratch.

-beerjet-

« **Reply #11 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:30:29 PM »

Quote from: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 04:27:14 PM

Anyone gotten the down low at MPD.
I havent ran one but talkin with Jack, they all sound like one off pieces for (relatively) not alot of scratch.

-beerjet-

omar i got one from him for 225.00 and it's a lot different than the one i pulled out. i gained ZIP, ZILCH, NADA accept a lighter wallet. this was in c/j812 and the only part i changed

« **Reply #12 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:32:05 PM »

My Dad had the almost same hull his was a Cole t deck Olguy got it now from PB he's got the boat to run low 90's with stock bottom end some head work big cam tunnel ram with two 660's hollys,I believe he's running a shoe droop ride plate and turning 5400 rpms .

« **Reply #13 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:35:36 PM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 08, 2009, 04:26:31 PM

my hondo was a turd i sold the hondo and got the liberty and gained 10mph with the same motor

Wasnt yours a basically stock Jacuzzi pump Ralph?

« **Reply #14 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:36:44 PM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 08, 2009, 04:30:29 PM

omar i got one from him for 225.00 and it's a lot different than the one i pulled out. i gained ZIP, ZILCH, NADA accept a lighter wallet. this was in c/j812 and the only part i changed

Did you ever run it in any heats?
What was the intended goal with the new loader?
Maybe all them years away from circle racing left him a little rusty

-beerjet-

« **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:37:22 PM »

Quote from: pw_Tony on February 08, 2009, 04:35:36 PM

Wasnt yours a basically stock Jacuzzi pump Ralph?

jim brock had just went through it and detailed the impellor, but, yes it was a w/j

and i think that was its down fall

« **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:41:50 PM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 08, 2009, 04:37:22 PM

jim brock had just went through it and detailed the impellor, but, yes it was a w/j and i think that was its down fall

You forgot to mention it was not a good family boat Ralph.

« **Reply #17 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:44:32 PM »

Quote from: beerjet on February 08, 2009, 04:36:44 PM

Did you ever run it in any heats?
What was the intended goal with the new loader?
Maybe all them years away from circle racing left him a little rusty

-beerjet-

yep thats how i know i gained nothing. the goal was more speed and to still stick in the turns. im sure if i wanted only speed he would have set me up with another loader. its a nice piece and with some tuning i could probably pick some mph up. i was due for a new loader any way.
old loader

new loader

you can see the difference in the two, so i expected to gain something $:-\$ it just goes to show how different two pieces can be and still achieve the same result. once again with some tuning i'm sure i would gain something

« **Reply #18 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:45:51 PM »

Quote from: boost on February 08, 2009, 04:41:50 PM

You forgot to mention it was not a good family boat Ralph.

true very true

« **Reply #19 on:** February 08, 2009, 04:47:52 PM »

Anyone got any pictures of a white lightning loader?

« **Reply #20 on:** February 08, 2009, 05:04:12 PM »

Quote from: pw_Tony on February 08, 2009, 04:47:52 PM

Anyone got any pictures of a white lightning loader?

« **Reply #21 on:** February 08, 2009, 05:15:31 PM »

OK scents this thread is on loader,I'm still need some more time in my boat when I flat foot the boat out the hole it pulls hard and go's straight up and to the left

only out the hole does it do this, steering wheel maybe set wrong are the diverter maybe I cant drive

« **Reply #22 on:** February 08, 2009, 05:18:20 PM »

Quote from: boost on February 08, 2009, 05:15:31 PM

OK scents this thread is on loader,I'm still need some more time in my boat when I flat foot the boat out the hole it pulls hard and go's straight up and to the left only out the hole does it do this, steering wheel maybe set wrong are the diverter maybe I cant drive

goes left you say

i think it wants to run comp jet

« **Reply #23 on:** February 08, 2009, 05:19:48 PM »

Maybe the boat trying to tell me something.

« **Reply #24 on:** February 08, 2009, 06:20:35 PM »

No one Jet drive intake loader is a "panacea" (end all be all) One boat ,one impeller,one jet and one combination different uses and applications may like one type of loader better than another No two boats and setups are neccesarily exactly alike. There are only base lines IMO and to some degree "experimentation" will be neccesary to find what works .The most critical thing is that the loader doesnt "impede" performance and that its "trimmed/tuned" & correctly "secured" to the boat and , the hull and the "shoe" Not all boats even need a loader just my H/O/P

Tom

regarding your take off "Pulling" issues ,if its on accel it probably relates to nozzle/steering "dragging hardware" is it an Aggressor diverter ? they tend to do that , pull on hard or sudden decel is an "underwater hardware" concerns ,the first is annoying the second is dangerous !

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