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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2008, 10:46:38 AM »
modified my last post.....

I believe the door is 8ft-ish wide so I think it wouldnt fit or would be a tight squeeze, The storage place is right by a couple of "pick a part" type places, dont think it would be hard to find a few tires
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2008, 11:07:40 AM »
ok, things to keep in mind....

this boat probably is full of sand/mud/etc...mostly in places we cant reach (ie under the bow) ....also, its got a motor in it.....so that being said, its going to be a heavy sumovabitch.

how are we going to get it off the trailer and into the storage unit?

so far theres only 4 people involved (oc2vegas, hdrider, chromey, and myself. theres no way 4 people are going to get this thing onto the trailer ....its going to want to sink like a rock at the ramp and will need to be lifted onto the trailer....ive seen teams of 20+ people struggle to get wrecked boats onto trailers.

i say we postpone this until next week until we iron out all the details....the wind is also picking up and terry said they are reporting 40+mph gusts on the lake today. that can only just make things even more difficult especially towing a wrecked boat.
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2008, 11:12:23 AM »
40+  doesnt sound like any fun!

I am up for whatever, let me know...
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #103 on: October 22, 2008, 11:17:14 AM »
In a week or two it will probably be under water. I have plans, but will require RELIABLE participation.
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #104 on: October 22, 2008, 11:19:18 AM »
In a week or two it will probably be under water. I have plans, but will require RELIABLE participation.

you got my word ill be there as long as i dont have to work....today works for me....or wednesday or thursday next week.

chromey is down too.
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #105 on: October 22, 2008, 11:26:34 AM »
You guys get to have all the fun, recovering a flat bottom ;)
Wish i could be there to help out , but.............
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #106 on: October 22, 2008, 11:28:42 AM »
today is good for me...but the wind sucks! Thursday I have to present a $60,000 bid, cant miss that!
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #107 on: October 22, 2008, 11:51:57 AM »
Ok, the wind aint so bad right now. How 'bout taking the pirate ship up pull it up on it's side see what we got. If alls good foam holes and roll it over, pump it out and pull to the ramp, tie the ship to the dock and put it on Chromy's trailer, bring it here and slide it off onto Nordies tires, go back and get the ship. Cant just let it sit in the yard, will need reliable help to remove motor and move shit around. Group project?
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #108 on: October 22, 2008, 12:10:00 PM »
Ok, the wind aint so bad right now. How 'bout taking the pirate ship up pull it up on it's side see what we got. If alls good foam holes and roll it over, pump it out and pull to the ramp, tie the ship to the dock and put it on Chromy's trailer, bring it here and slide it off onto Nordies tires, go back and get the ship. Cant just let it sit in the yard, will need reliable help to remove motor and move shit around. Group project?

looks like my day just got focked....might have to make a trip to needles to get some parts back from a pain in the ass machine shop  :mad:
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #109 on: October 22, 2008, 12:12:32 PM »
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #110 on: October 22, 2008, 03:40:23 PM »
free tires....

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/zip/889289158.html

 I know where to get a bunch of tires with no rims on them, Terry do we need em or do you or josh have some?
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #111 on: October 22, 2008, 03:51:27 PM »
im drinking at screw balls with nordie now...he said hes gettin tires tomorrow for his truck....if youre in the area. swing by...skip is on his way too
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2008, 09:34:18 PM »
someday when everything all pans out...we will make a joint efort to rescue this poor gem...everyone has to understand we all have our own schedules its a knarly deal...and getting this boat with just a couple of us is like saying rome was built in a day
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2008, 09:35:35 PM »
Josh ........ It's "gnarly" dude .  ;)

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i dont but im all for stuffin shit in her ass to make her go away :-*

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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2008, 09:36:55 PM »
thanks i was brought up in the worst school system ever...karma on the spell check...even if i am waisted
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #115 on: October 22, 2008, 09:40:23 PM »
1980 is tryin to get poetic on us ;D ;D :screwy:
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2008, 10:44:04 PM »
thanks i was brought up in the worst school system ever...

You went to the Los Angeles Unified school District too?
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #117 on: October 22, 2008, 11:15:43 PM »
Hey Beerjet, you still have any of those extra trailers?  Lets go swipe this thing before the Vegas guys get it, you could be running nostalgia flat next season .   >:D
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Welcome to the club of broken boats :o  Pay here$ bend over and move along.

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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #118 on: October 23, 2008, 03:34:53 PM »
Hey Beerjet, you still have any of those extra trailers?  Lets go swipe this thing before the Vegas guys get it, you could be running nostalgia flat next season .   >:D
The only trailer I have left is running peg leg right now  :-\

Whats the slacker report as of now . My future plans definatly include a family ski flat fo sho ! That hondo would be it too !

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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2008, 04:26:40 PM »
little update on the flatty...it is still there...now the bad news...its completely under water now :o
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #120 on: October 23, 2008, 04:32:02 PM »
Unless it's under a bunch of water it might be easier to float. Can you get some deflated inner tubes under the deck and then fill them up with a compressor? That could take a bunch of weight off the backs of the pirates who pillage her.
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #121 on: October 23, 2008, 04:45:02 PM »
Unless it's under a bunch of water it might be easier to float. Can you get some deflated inner tubes under the deck and then fill them up with a compressor? That could take a bunch of weight off the backs of the pirates who pillage her.


me and terry discussed this earlier...the problem is we need a compressor and man power...the deal with that is all of us are on different schedules so getting all of us together is a task in itself, and with the sun going down early that doesnt leave us any time if we attempted this after work...we want to get this boat before it has to spend one more winter underwater...from the picture terry sent me today it isnt far under water so we will see what we can work out...there are alot of things that will half to account for...me and brad discussed this over some beers last night...the motor is in it and probably a ton of mud, that alone is going to make it extremely heavy...i wish we could make this a smash and grab deal, but we are all amatures when it comes to unsinking a vessel that probably has rested there for quite a while...i call this mission TITANIC...a true sunken gem...terry had me yesterday he's all what if this thing has a blower on it...interesting thought

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battery
bilge pump
floatation devises
man power
come-a-longs
some rigging
shovels
something to plug holes if it has any
transportation of the boat
tow line
compressor
lots of beer
tools
more beer
maybe some pails for bailing out alot of water
and im sure alot more
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #122 on: October 23, 2008, 05:15:23 PM »
Instead of a compressor a bunch of basketballs or anything with air in it that you could force under the deck could work.  Someone thought they could raise the Titanic with millions of ping pong balls someone didn't tell them what the pressure would do to them at that depth though. Another thought. there are some foot type air mattress pumps out there that pump a lot of air quickly.  that and heavy duty trash bags might actually hold air long enough for you to get a sling under it in order to flip it. once flipped over try to get the mud out while it's still sunk in the shallows then tow it out with someone bailing once the gunnels get above water. Same method we used to re-float a flipped boat at the races.  By the way I really wish I could help you guys out it sounds like such a great adventure.
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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #123 on: October 23, 2008, 05:33:24 PM »
If that is a typical Hondo sprint, the deck may not be capped (not air tight) and the deck will most likely be foam filled. Also the bulkheads usually have a smaller than usual access hole. These boats also have front to back bulkheads.

I think you guys will have a decent chance now that the water is up. Make sure you bring a stout towline in triplicate and lots of muscle.


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Re: Free Flatbottom
« Reply #124 on: October 23, 2008, 05:48:49 PM »
Heres my idea ;D


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27000 Ping Pong balls to raise an 1800lb boat! The best price I can find for Bulk Ping Pong balls is .33/each. Which means that if the boat weighs half as much as the one on MythBusters it would take 13500 balls at a cost of $4500!

Next option!
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