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1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« on: November 14, 2006, 02:04:31 PM »
HERE IS MY WINTER PROJECT.IT A 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM.IT HAS A BBF 460.IT HAS A 12JC-A BERK PUMP.I HOPE TO HAVE THE MOTOR REBUILT,PAINTED, AND INTERIOR DONE FOR NEXT SUMMER.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 04:21:46 PM »
looks like you have your work cut out for you.....keep us up to date with your progress!
  • Boat #1: 1978 Liberty
  • Boat #2: 1982 Eliminator Sprint
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2007, 12:27:28 AM »
Bitchen Boat, looks like fun.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2007, 01:33:09 PM »
Thanks Emanon for the comment.Another Arizona guy.Maybe when I get this boat up and running we will see you at one of the lakes.I think Im getting it painted real soon.My wife is finally letting me spend a little bit of money.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2007, 07:59:36 AM »
Any body know what a 25' citation is worth? Has 455 olds, unknown jet.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2007, 04:26:49 PM »
Any body know what a 25' citation is worth? Has 455 olds, unknown jet.

25' is a lot of boat for a jet....i have never seen anything for 21' with a jet before  ???
  • Boat #1: 1978 Liberty
  • Boat #2: 1982 Eliminator Sprint
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2007, 08:59:28 AM »
Here is some pics of my interior.It's all one piece.Two bucket seats in front and a "u" shape bench in back.I don't have much room,but I think it will work ok.I will try to finish up tonight and I will get more pics.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2007, 09:04:43 AM »
I have a few questions for ya....

What kind of wood are you using? are you coating it with resin? what thickness is the wood?

keep up the good work, summer will be here sooner then you know it!

-Goad
  • Boat #1: 1978 Liberty
  • Boat #2: 1982 Eliminator Sprint
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2007, 09:19:10 AM »
The wood is seven layer, 3/4 inch ply wood.I will coat the hell out of it with resin.I'm thinking of glassing all the joint areas.Do you guys think that is a good idea?This is my first time doing interior work so any advice would be good.It's not very heavy for being one piece.I'm going to try to make storage areas under the back bench seats.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2007, 09:52:28 AM »
I am no interior expert either, but i read somewhere it will help a lot if you drill some (1 or 2) quarter sized holes in the base of the seats so water has somewhere to drain so its just not soaking the wood. Of course, coat the walls of the hole as well. Even though you are coating the hell out of it, the wood will still flex and crack over the years and water will seep into the wood and rot it again. It's just an idea, I dont think a couple of holes could hurt.

It looks like you have cut most of your wood so far and i know this would be a bad time to start over, but if you had the time and money and wanted to REALLY do it right....use some treated marine wood. The stuff isnt cheap, it runs $90 for a 4'x8'x3/4" piece. That would really prolong the life of your seats.

  • Boat #1: 1978 Liberty
  • Boat #2: 1982 Eliminator Sprint
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2007, 11:38:16 AM »
That is a good idea about cutting the holes under the seats.I will do that.I wish I could of used the marine plywood,but I could barely afford this stuff.This stuff was $27.00 a sheet.Thanks for the help.Do you think I should glass all the joints?
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2007, 12:29:18 PM »
When I did the seats in my last boat from scratch I glassed all the joints and resined the rest , the upholstery shop said they looked like they would stand a beating! And they did. So I would advise doing so. Boat seats tend to receive a lot of abuse.
  • Boat #1: 1978 TX-19 Youngblood
  • Boat #2: 1994 24 foot Sundancer Pontoon
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2007, 01:08:03 PM »
When I did the seats in my last boat from scratch I glassed all the joints and resined the rest , the upholstery shop said they looked like they would stand a beating! And they did. So I would advise doing so. Boat seats tend to receive a lot of abuse.

I second this....a little more re-enforcment wont hurt.

  • Boat #1: 1978 Liberty
  • Boat #2: 1982 Eliminator Sprint
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2007, 09:49:35 AM »
Can you guys give me some tips on doing the glass work on my seats.I'm going right now to buy some resin and glass.I've never done any fiberglass work before.I was thinking like 3 inch strips on all the joints.How many layers do I put down?Do I put resin first then the glass and resin over it?Thanks for any help.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2007, 10:13:22 AM »
I think the 3" strip deal is a good idea. As for the bonding, I would do a cold batch of resin. What I mean is use the minimum amount of hardener so that the resin can soak into the wood of the seats. This will give you the strongest bond. I honestly think one layer of mat will work fine. Make sure resin extends 2" - 3" past mat.

Step 1

Clean seat joint with acetone
Apply cold batch of resin
Lay in mat, make sure mat is fully saturated with resin

Step 2

Sand bonded joint, removing any sharp edges
Clean with Acetone
Apply second coat of resin
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2007, 11:18:24 AM »
Sounds good.Thanks for the help.I just got back from buying a gallon of resin and some mat.I will post some more picture tonight.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2007, 04:45:35 PM »
I'm not sure if it was right or not, but we rebuilt all the frames on or 19' Tahiti 15 years ago just like you are doing now.  We were going to resin the entire frames and glass the joints.  A marine upholsterer told us to treat the wood with linseed oil or Thompson's water seal and drill the holes as has already been suggested.  Because the marine grade plywood was over the top even 15 years ago, we used the same size plywood you are using and slathered the hell out of them in linseed oil (5 or 6 coats). We also used stainless wood screws (not cheap either)  The upholsterer said it allowed the wood to breathe and flex while it repelled water.  Given the amount of wear and tear boat seats take, his experience taught him the wood would fracture and break down if glassed. We did use marine grade foam and naugahyde for the remainder We sold the boat a five years after we did this rebuild, so I'm not sure how they have stood the test of time. 
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 05:20:10 PM »
good info michael, thanks for that post. I will keep that in mind when I do my seats.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 05:23:36 PM »
My original '76 Sanger built seats are treated wood frames. They have hung in there pritty well. But I have chose to glass all the frames we do now for the extra protection and durrability.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2007, 09:34:21 AM »
Here' a few more pics of all the wood work done.I'm going to glass all the joint's and cover with resin.I still need to cut holes out in the rear bench for storage.It's all one piece.It's not to heavy.I can take it out of the boat myself.I'm sure after the upholstery it will take two people.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #20 on: February 22, 2007, 10:02:24 AM »
We did almost the exact same set up in my old boat and the issues ended up being leg room for the rear passengers and a spot for a cooler.
  • Boat #1: 1978 TX-19 Youngblood
  • Boat #2: 1994 24 foot Sundancer Pontoon
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #21 on: February 22, 2007, 11:04:02 AM »
I was concerned with both of those.I can't go any further back because of the motor.I think two adults sitting in the corners of the back seat will fit ok.Maybe three with one in the middle.I'm considering building a cooler underneath the back seat.A cooler is very important!
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2007, 11:15:04 AM »
Re phrase that  "the cooler is the most important" . You get way more leg room if you do a two piece and the rear just a stright bench with a little leg room behind each of the front seats.
But in your case it looks really good and I would probably just go with what you have already.
That way you have a excuse if too many people want a ride.
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  • Boat #2: 1994 24 foot Sundancer Pontoon
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Taco'd "a person or people that show up with one lake lice and a family of 50 and cram 3 people at a time on it with no disregard to boating rules or ethics. Usualy crap in toilets and throw shit paper in trash cans. Hang out at the boat ramp like its a swimming hole. Have zero insurance on anything they own and dont give two shits less about your property."

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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2007, 11:40:55 AM »
Thanks.The only reason I did the little side seats was to cover the stringers.They run the whole lenght of the boat and I thought It would look ugly having the strigers exposed behind the front seats.I also see someone stumbling over them and falling overboard.From the cooler of course!I hope it works ok.
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Re: 1978 TROPHY CUSTOM BBF 460
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2007, 12:17:00 PM »
All that really matters is that you have 1 extra seat and a cooler!! Screw the rest!! ;D
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  • Boat #2: 1994 24 foot Sundancer Pontoon
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