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ka0tyk

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #500 on: August 01, 2014, 04:06:39 PM »
2 clearance lights and 2 taillights showed up.



waiting for the 3 middle rear red lights and 2 more yellows for the middle of the trailer.  i always have people trying to merge into my trailer after i pass them...
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #501 on: August 25, 2014, 10:54:09 AM »
hey Kayotk

Since youve had it out a few times, hows the cooling working out for you?

Can you give me a run down of how yours is setup? Im thinking about tossing the waterpump when i do my center riser conversion, and could use some info on your setup.

from the pictures it looks like you are running a Y from the drive to the bottom of the manifolds.

From the manifolds, to the waterpump inlets,

then through the intake and out to the risers?

Is this correct? Whats the operating temp like?

thanks
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #502 on: August 25, 2014, 10:58:54 AM »
hey Kayotk

Since youve had it out a few times, hows the cooling working out for you?

Can you give me a run down of how yours is setup? Im thinking about tossing the waterpump when i do my center riser conversion, and could use some info on your setup.

from the pictures it looks like you are running a Y from the drive to the bottom of the manifolds.

From the manifolds, to the waterpump inlets,

then through the intake and out to the risers?

Is this correct? Whats the operating temp like?

thanks

yup thats pretty much how it all is plumbed up.  in the few times i have had it out, theres been 0 cooling issues.  The stock water pump and thermostat housing is basically to recirculate water in the system that is already warmed up.  It does run a little cool but at the same time my oil temps get hot enough to see whatever moisture is in the oil system to turn into steam out of my valve cover breathers.   everything is -10 (1/2") hose and there is PLENTY of water coming out the back to cool the exhaust. 
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #503 on: August 25, 2014, 11:00:21 AM »
do you also have to run a water "dump" or just out the riser?
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #504 on: August 25, 2014, 11:31:08 AM »
do you also have to run a water "dump" or just out the riser?

everything goes out the risers.  no dump.

(old vid)
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #505 on: August 25, 2014, 12:25:16 PM »
everything goes out the risers.  no dump.

(old vid)

cool thanks. work blocks youtube :-(

I really appreciate the input
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #506 on: August 25, 2014, 12:26:03 PM »
one last question. You're just running a thermostat block off plate right?

Does the motor build any heat at all?
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #507 on: August 31, 2014, 10:37:45 PM »
too lazy to put it in the garage tonight.

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #508 on: August 31, 2014, 10:50:36 PM »
and the best part of all... enjoying it with my baby.

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #509 on: September 03, 2014, 10:40:15 AM »
 :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
You probably know more than i do. But i thought anytime an infant was in the boat they had to wear their life jacket?

I ask because i  typically bring my gf and our 1yo. And she HATES the life jacket but i make her wear it the whole time

thanks
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« Reply #510 on: September 03, 2014, 10:57:20 AM »
:thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:  :thumbup:
You probably know more than i do. But i thought anytime an infant was in the boat they had to wear their life jacket?

I ask because i  typically bring my gf and our 1yo. And she HATES the life jacket but i make her wear it the whole time

thanks

yup we're a "safety first" bunch.





we just took it off for that one pic, we were sitting in a cove, motor off, etc.
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« Reply #511 on: September 03, 2014, 11:01:51 AM »
they have the same jacket lol

do you have one of these yet? Natallie absolutely loves it, and gets PISSED if we take her out of it. Target, it was like 10 bucks

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #512 on: September 03, 2014, 11:06:30 AM »
they have the same jacket lol

do you have one of these yet? Natallie absolutely loves it, and gets PISSED if we take her out of it. Target, it was like 10 bucks



ahh thats pretty cool lookin.  we're gonna skip this season and head out first thing next season.  i just gotta figure out where im gonna put all these toys in the boat.  haha.  im "toying" with the idea of cutting it down the middle and turning it into an open bow.  thats why i never installed my floor all the way up to the front of the boat.  it stops maybe 3-4' under the deck.
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #513 on: September 03, 2014, 11:13:05 AM »
DO IT!!!!!

I want to convert mine badly, but dont have the cajones. lol

I store that under the bow with the noodles. But its inflatable and its one of those "spring floats" so it folds up nicely. I always have an inflator under one of the seats so that makes it quick and easy to inflate.

For storage i use under pass seat, and rear set. I also have a big rubbermaid tub in the engine compatment on the pass side. Not to much goes under the bow except the ez up and chairs skis, etc
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #514 on: September 03, 2014, 11:18:53 AM »
ive always loved this boat:



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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #515 on: September 03, 2014, 11:19:58 AM »
do lose a lot of storage dont ya
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« Reply #516 on: September 03, 2014, 11:22:20 AM »
do lose a lot of storage dont ya

yah.  im wondering if i convert it to an open bow, and switch to a belly tank, i could get more storage on the sides, speakers, pockets, etc.  i dunno what id really do with a ski locker.  none of us actually ski and if we ever wanted to the mother in law has a wakeboard boat with plenty of storage on their rack for that stuff. 
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #517 on: September 03, 2014, 11:26:38 AM »
yah.  im wondering if i convert it to an open bow, and switch to a belly tank, i could get more storage on the sides, speakers, pockets, etc.  i dunno what id really do with a ski locker.  none of us actually ski and if we ever wanted to the mother in law has a wakeboard boat with plenty of storage on their rack for that stuff.

Have you been in any rough water with yours yet? I'd be worried about the strength. My bow Flexes a lot when in rough water you can watch it. Kinda freaky but no stress marks.

I would think converting it would make it a little more structurally sound
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #518 on: September 03, 2014, 11:46:20 AM »
Have you been in any rough water with yours yet? I'd be worried about the strength. My bow Flexes a lot when in rough water you can watch it. Kinda freaky but no stress marks.

I would think converting it would make it a little more structurally sound

yeah mine flexes too... but in my tahiti i added a bulkhead and it got rid of all of that.  so its either i add a bulkhead or make it an open bow.
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #519 on: September 03, 2014, 11:54:15 AM »
yeah mine flexes too... but in my tahiti i added a bulkhead and it got rid of all of that.  so its either i add a bulkhead or make it an open bow.

When I do the floor this winter. I plan to add a bulkhead

Might need a hand with the floor. Or atlwast some advice

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« Reply #520 on: September 14, 2014, 09:08:09 PM »
boat day today

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #521 on: September 14, 2014, 09:09:37 PM »
they have the same jacket lol

do you have one of these yet? Natallie absolutely loves it, and gets PISSED if we take her out of it. Target, it was like 10 bucks



lookie what i found



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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #522 on: September 14, 2014, 10:54:54 PM »
adorable kid :D

ive got one of those float things too for my son....he likes it....but if water splashes his face....his world is ending   ;D

ka0tyk....question....ive been noticing more triple axle trailers lately....besides the load being split between 6 instead of 4 wheels...why the triple axles?  i get it on much larger boats....but on our boats...??

looks like it could be hard on tires in turns....and now have to replace 6 instead of 4 tires ( when the time comes) and would you now have to carry more spares?

pardon me for the silly question.  seeking knowledge boss..... :beer:
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #523 on: September 14, 2014, 11:32:25 PM »
adorable kid :D

ive got one of those float things too for my son....he likes it....but if water splashes his face....his world is ending   ;D

ka0tyk....question....ive been noticing more triple axle trailers lately....besides the load being split between 6 instead of 4 wheels...why the triple axles?  i get it on much larger boats....but on our boats...??

looks like it could be hard on tires in turns....and now have to replace 6 instead of 4 tires ( when the time comes) and would you now have to carry more spares?

pardon me for the silly question.  seeking knowledge boss..... :beer:

all good points... and in all honesty a single axle will carry the load of most boats as long as its properly sized.  my competitive trailer's suspension was originally set up for the 18 foot tahiti that was on it before... so needless to say the ride was absolutely terrible when i put the 21 on it.  bouncy and the axles were in the completely wrong spot, if i filled the gas tanks the tongue would come off the ground by itself, so adjustment was in order regardless.   i liked the looks of the triple and aside from the little 1/2 mile jump to the local harbor our trips are all from OC to havasu... a long haul.  my first boat the 18' tahiti originally came with a single axle.  it swayed around while towing... so i found the competitive tandem.  it was great.  but towing with the triple is a whole different ballgame so far.  first off, lets get this out of the way... turns just plain suck. the axles/tires are all fighting with each other and you can hear it drag the wheels.  but ive never had a trailer tire actually "wear out" they almost always go bad from weather/time and crack.   For straight hauls, i dont even notice its back there.  it just carries the load perfect.  also with the triple the rear axle is at the very back of the trailer so going up my driveway it doesnt drag anymore.  the suspension on the tandem was all original, old and rusty so i was going to replace it all anyways. also i was able to find the chrome fenders and donor axle fairly easy and super cheap.  competitive used a "sled" design with 2 pieces of angle that bolt to the overall frame of the trailer so upgrading was easy with little modification to the trailer frame itself.
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #524 on: September 15, 2014, 10:45:36 AM »
Thanks for the explanation.   :thumbup:
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