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steves86ta

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #525 on: September 15, 2014, 10:48:23 AM »
lookie what i found



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Nice! hope she likes it.
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #526 on: September 16, 2014, 08:27:34 PM »

lookie what i found



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  coolest things ever.. My 10mo old now makes motor noises when I pull him around lol


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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #527 on: September 16, 2014, 08:28:46 PM »
Freakin amazing build on the boat also man, checked it out from start til now earlier. Awesome work!👊🍻


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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #528 on: September 17, 2014, 06:29:37 AM »
Hey when are you going to finish the engine hatch?

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« Reply #529 on: September 17, 2014, 02:03:22 PM »
When are we gonna see a full throttle pass and some GPS numbers!

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« Reply #530 on: September 17, 2014, 02:06:18 PM »
When are we gonna see a full throttle pass and some GPS numbers!

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i got it up to 50 on the speedo and the nose was buried into the water and i didnt feel like going any further i was barely in the 4k.  i posted a thread on "the other forum" about how to trim an i/o properly just waiting for a time to actually try it. 
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #531 on: September 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM »
i got it up to 50 on the speedo and the nose was buried into the water and i didnt feel like going any further i was barely in the 4k.  i posted a thread on "the other forum" about how to trim an i/o properly just waiting for a time to actually try it.
You're gonna make us all wait for the River Rats 3 dvd to come out, aren't you....
HAMMER!
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DOWN!
You'll never know what you did wrong until you break it.

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #532 on: September 17, 2014, 02:46:55 PM »
i got it up to 50 on the speedo and the nose was buried into the water and i didnt feel like going any further i was barely in the 4k.  i posted a thread on "the other forum" about how to trim an i/o properly just waiting for a time to actually try it.

What questions did you have?

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« Reply #533 on: September 17, 2014, 03:38:08 PM »
What questions did you have?

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it was more of a getting on plane should the drive be fully down, at what point do you raise it up?  whats the limit to raising it without and issue of the drive shaft/ujoints/bellows in regards to how the boat is riding?  I also have trim tabs, so I hear those can be put full down to make the boat plane faster at a slow speed, yadda yadda.  i did get some tips for calibrating my trim gauge with the sender and possibly to move it closer to me so i can visually see it as its somewhat important.  right now its at the furthest point away from me and without trim bezels at an angle its almost impossible to see it where i sit. 

as of right now i pushed the gogo stick forward until i hit 50 and then backed off with the drive fully down and the nose was sitting pretty low in the water.  i didnt want to stuff it or hook something and get pitched.
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #534 on: September 17, 2014, 03:46:43 PM »
it was more of a getting on plane should the drive be fully down, at what point do you raise it up?  whats the limit to raising it without and issue of the drive shaft/ujoints/bellows in regards to how the boat is riding?  I also have trim tabs, so I hear those can be put full down to make the boat plane faster at a slow speed, yadda yadda.  i did get some tips for calibrating my trim gauge with the sender and possibly to move it closer to me so i can visually see it as its somewhat important.  right now its at the furthest point away from me and without trim bezels at an angle its almost impossible to see it where i sit. 

as of right now i pushed the gogo stick forward until i hit 50 and then backed off with the drive fully down and the nose was sitting pretty low in the water.  i didnt want to stuff it or hook something and get pitched.

Here's how i drive the same exact boat, so i would expect it to perform similarly in your boat.

from a stop i have the drive all the way down. Take off, once the boat planes out ill start bringing the drive up.

as far as how far really depends on how fast im going. if im trimmed to high for the cruising speed it'll porpoise so i just bring it down a little bit.

I have a trim gauge. I dont use it. I just drive by feel. Also when at the upper end, if its trimmed to high it'll chine walk which is slightly scary.

At a moderate cruising speed, im breaking water about my shoulder, when sitting in the drivers seat. In WFO conditions im breaking water about 2-3 feet in from the transom or so it seems.

You will be amazed how much nicer the ride is and the boats general attitude improves greatly. I do have my trim limit switch set to Mercruisers spec (off the top of my head i think the rams can go like 21 3/4" or so) I hardly ever trim it up that high, unless its a wide open run. But general cruising just when the boat feels free enough that its happy.

Like i said trimming it correctly will be a night and day difference, I will tell you that I NEVER have the drive all the way down unless im pulling a skier, or just coming on to plane. Once on plane i bring it up

Hope this helps
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« Reply #535 on: September 17, 2014, 04:09:25 PM »
Here's how i drive the same exact boat, so i would expect it to perform similarly in your boat.

from a stop i have the drive all the way down. Take off, once the boat planes out ill start bringing the drive up.

as far as how far really depends on how fast im going. if im trimmed to high for the cruising speed it'll porpoise so i just bring it down a little bit.

I have a trim gauge. I dont use it. I just drive by feel. Also when at the upper end, if its trimmed to high it'll chine walk which is slightly scary.

At a moderate cruising speed, im breaking water about my shoulder, when sitting in the drivers seat. In WFO conditions im breaking water about 2-3 feet in from the transom or so it seems.

You will be amazed how much nicer the ride is and the boats general attitude improves greatly. I do have my trim limit switch set to Mercruisers spec (off the top of my head i think the rams can go like 21 3/4" or so) I hardly ever trim it up that high, unless its a wide open run. But general cruising just when the boat feels free enough that its happy.

Like i said trimming it correctly will be a night and day difference, I will tell you that I NEVER have the drive all the way down unless im pulling a skier, or just coming on to plane. Once on plane i bring it up

Hope this helps
So the same as a jet....

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« Reply #536 on: September 17, 2014, 04:13:55 PM »
So the same as a jet....

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I wouldnt know, never driven one
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« Reply #537 on: September 17, 2014, 04:22:58 PM »
I wouldnt know, never driven one
That's how I've always done it.
I would never assume I needed trim tabs till after getting a feel for the boat either....

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« Reply #538 on: September 17, 2014, 04:24:21 PM »
That's how I've always done it.
I would never assume I needed trim tabs till after getting a feel for the boat either....

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i could use em to help with the chine walking. but dont need em.

though in rough water i can see how they would be beneficial
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #539 on: September 24, 2014, 05:46:12 PM »
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« Reply #540 on: September 24, 2014, 09:00:42 PM »
gotta say....does look pretty !

i thought i read a post (couldve been super old post) where your navi engine was apart.  looked like heads were off.  blown head gasket?
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« Reply #541 on: September 24, 2014, 09:49:46 PM »
gotta say....does look pretty !

i thought i read a post (couldve been super old post) where your navi engine was apart.  looked like heads were off.  blown head gasket?

yup last month.  broke a timing chain guide.  so replaced cam phasers, VCT solenoids, timing tensioners, timing guides, timing chains, crank timing sprocket, head gaskets, exhaust manifold gaskets, serpentine belt, thermostat, etc.  it was basically an overhaul minus the shortblock, which SHOULD be good for 200-300k in itself.  its all the valvetrain that sucks balls on these motors.  i had put it all back together 2x and then realized that the "R" & "L" on the cam phasers are from drivers perspective so timing was 180* out.  Took it to ford and they said i needed a whole new motor at $8100.  tried a third time and realized the mistake, fired up on the first try and runs fine since.  *knocks on wood*
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« Reply #542 on: September 24, 2014, 10:43:02 PM »
Sounds ambitious.... to tackle a job like that. Good for you tho....saved some coin plus the satisfaction of doing in it yourself. 
Thanks for the reply.... hope I wasn't prying. 
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« Reply #543 on: September 24, 2014, 10:54:21 PM »
Sounds ambitious.... to tackle a job like that. Good for you tho....saved some coin plus the satisfaction of doing in it yourself. 
Thanks for the reply.... hope I wasn't prying.

i wouldnt put it out there if i wasnt expecting someone to comment, good or bad.  i figure theres someone out there going thru the same thing that might come across my posts and learn something or realize the situation isnt THAT bad.
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« Reply #544 on: September 24, 2014, 11:03:08 PM »
Exactly.... I would feel the same way....better to be sure tho.
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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #545 on: September 25, 2014, 08:20:14 PM »
Hey kayotk. Check your pm's

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« Reply #546 on: September 30, 2014, 06:14:48 PM »
so last sunday i ended up in the harbor again...







only doing about 35mph here...

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Re: 21 Bahner I/O project...
« Reply #547 on: September 30, 2014, 10:55:02 PM »
so last sunday i ended up in the harbor again...







only doing about 35mph here...



I really need to get out there. Last weekend just didn't phase out like I had planned

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« Reply #548 on: October 16, 2014, 10:52:39 AM »


tired of getting sunburned.  im gonna have a grey top with a white stripe in the middle made up off of this one as a template. 
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« Reply #549 on: October 16, 2014, 10:55:37 AM »


tired of getting sunburned.  im gonna have a grey top with a white stripe in the middle made up off of this one as a template.

Bimini's are awesome man!

whne you get yours done check out having it done in mesh. Ours is that way and its really nice, still provides the shade, but breathes and doesnt bake you under neath it. Also breathes while you are moving
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