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Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: More2LifeThanMPG on December 27, 2013, 04:53:34 PM

Title: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on December 27, 2013, 04:53:34 PM
So I was just looking through some old pictures and then realized I never started a build thread. I'm not and don't plan on doing a full tear down like most of you guys are. This is a family boat on a budget. Haha

Purchased the boat in August 2011 from a guy in Havasu, while I was on vacation.
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Returned the next weekend to pick it up.
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Did some miscellaneous cleaning and repairs over the winter of 2011 and summer of 2012.
New tires, new battery, fresh clean up and waxing, and some tuning.
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2012 summer I decided a freshen up was needed, so I started collecting parts.
New carpet
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460 refresh
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Some summer 2013 pictures
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And finally a diverter
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Need to get a cable still. And fix the steering cable leak then it will be good for a 2014 summer!

On the todo list is interior and a trailer make over. Everything works it's just starting to wear and look old.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: crewchief22 on December 27, 2013, 06:30:47 PM
Sometimes just keeping up with the wear and tear on these old things is the bigger battle. 

Good job, enjoy it.
Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: Jet Boat Maloney on December 27, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Looks like you're doing a great job with it.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: Riverguy553 on December 27, 2013, 08:14:12 PM
Is that my steering wheel on her?
Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on December 27, 2013, 09:13:40 PM

Is that my steering wheel on her?

Not unless you sold it to the guy I bought it from.

Sometimes just keeping up with the wear and tear on these old things is the bigger battle. 

Good job, enjoy it.

No crap, I fix one thing and it causes another issue.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on December 27, 2013, 09:17:39 PM

Looks like you're doing a great job with it.


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Thank you, she isn't perfect by any means. She has her bumps and bruises but she gets my family onto the water with minor issues every trip. And the issues always make for good stories in the years to come! Haha


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on January 02, 2014, 05:56:20 PM
So small update... Stopped by Place to get the cable and what not, well Tim sold me on replacing the forward/reverse cable also. For the price couldn't pass it up! Plus same day service.

Big shout out to Tim and all the guys at Place Diverter and Controls!


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: uncleBOBBY on January 02, 2014, 06:24:47 PM
What happened to the frill on the Bimini. I think that looks cool on classics



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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on January 02, 2014, 09:06:51 PM

What happened to the frill on the Bimini. I think that looks cool on classics



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Ha that's what my mom and dad said too, it's all gone. About a quarter of it was missing, and the rest was pretty yellow. Hahaha


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on April 17, 2014, 06:49:03 PM
So does anyone have a way to do some milling?

My logs are warped and is leaking from cylinder #1. I'm told the best way to fix this is remove them, have them milled and reinstalled them with a nice thick copper gasket.
Also does anyone have a trick to tightening/ keep the bolts tight? I understand it gets hot and should be retightened after first use. But mine keep coming real loose, I think that's why it warped.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: riverrat4life on April 18, 2014, 02:54:06 PM
Nice float man!

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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on April 18, 2014, 08:08:25 PM

Nice float man!

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Thank you sir, it is a work it process. But it works and that's the best part.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: riverrat4life on April 19, 2014, 05:05:23 AM
Hell yeah bro! :)

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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: el mojado on April 20, 2014, 10:09:54 AM
So does anyone have a way to do some milling?

My logs are warped and is leaking from cylinder #1. I'm told the best way to fix this is remove them, have them milled and reinstalled them with a nice thick copper gasket.
Also does anyone have a trick to tightening/ keep the bolts tight? I understand it gets hot and should be retightened after first use. But mine keep coming real loose, I think that's why it warped.


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Most guys dont use exhaust gaskets. Ive used the copper silicone instead of gaskets and never had issues. I think this should help. Msybe even blue lock tight on the bolts

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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on May 24, 2014, 06:05:31 PM
No major updates, but the interior is cleaner than we purchased it now...
It only took about 30 magic erasers and 2 days. Needless to say it worked wonders but I have very little skin and fingernails left.

How many would recommend using a vinyl sealer? If so which one?


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: MorePower on May 24, 2014, 08:57:54 PM

So does anyone have a way to do some milling?

My logs are warped and is leaking from cylinder #1. I'm told the best way to fix this is remove them, have them milled and reinstalled them with a nice thick copper gasket.
Also does anyone have a trick to tightening/ keep the bolts tight? I understand it gets hot and should be retightened after first use. But mine keep coming real loose, I think that's why it warped.


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I'll talk with my uncle and see if he can get the mill fired up for you


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on May 24, 2014, 10:55:01 PM

I'll talk with my uncle and see if he can get the mill fired up for you


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That would be great. I was planning on going out this weekend, but I don't think we are going to. Next for sure trip is late June, and that ones a must.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: ka0tyk on May 24, 2014, 11:08:03 PM
get a set of bolts and safety wire em.  when one tries to loosen, it'll pull on the other and keep it tight.

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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: ka0tyk on May 24, 2014, 11:08:38 PM
btw awesome job magic erasering that interior.  looks great!   :beer:
Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on May 25, 2014, 09:00:33 AM

btw awesome job magic erasering that interior.  looks great!   :beer:

Thanks, it was lot of bang for the buck. However I did found some very minor cracks and rotted wood while I was cleaning. I really hope it holds up for another two summers.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: riverrat4life on May 25, 2014, 09:26:12 AM
get a set of bolts and safety wire em.  when one tries to loosen, it'll pull on the other and keep it tight.

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gotta love aviation technology! :) I was an airframer in the navy..now I keep a set of safety wire pliers in my tool chest :) looks good bro!

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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on June 16, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
Okay so I purchased a set of step-n-go trim tabs... Now I am in need of installing direction. I have searched online but nothing was very defined. There was just so many different ways that people where doing it. And I'd really rather not trial and error this... Haha
So I'm looking for a set it and forget it set up. I added the diverter and I'm still porpoising at speed and in chop, not sure if it's because I haven't 100% figured out the diverter or the boat. So all help or advised would great.
Does the hull make a difference?
Where do I need to measure from?
What angle should I set them at?
Should I just mount them right up the the hull, or should I put some kind of gasket or something?



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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on January 20, 2015, 10:23:25 PM
So it's about time I get started on my list of winter projects... Couple of questions first.

I'm in north or age county, where is a good place to get pump work done? I would like to be able to leave it in the boat and drop the boat off. I'm thinking freshen up and add a loader, possibly a stuffer... Any thoughts? Any have a good mini day set up?

Also I am in need of a machine shop to straighten out the logs, they have bent outwards due to not being tighten down properly after installed.

Might also being needing some assistants with resealing the fuel fills, haven't looked into this just know they are leaking.

Lastly how does trailer good work? I know there was someone on here, but can't find them. I need a minor overall completed.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: jyeager on January 20, 2015, 10:26:37 PM

So it's about time I get started on my list of winter projects... Couple of questions first.

I'm in north or age county, where is a good place to get pump work done? I would like to be able to leave it in the boat and drop the boat off. I'm thinking freshen up and add a loader, possibly a stuffer... Any thoughts? Any have a good mini day set up?

Also I am in need of a machine shop to straighten out the logs, they have bent outwards due to not being tighten down properly after installed.

Might also being needing some assistants with resealing the fuel fills, haven't looked into this just know they are leaking.

Lastly how does trailer good work? I know there was someone on here, but can't find them. I need a minor overall completed.


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B1 racing for all your pump, loader and machine work needs. Chris is in Santa Ana and does great work..... So does joe 👋👋👋👋👋👋


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: jbrundahl3@yahoo.com on January 21, 2015, 08:51:27 AM
For trailer work try miracle muffler and trailer in Anaheim   Ask for Darrell or John. 714 630 8010. Do great work.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on January 22, 2015, 06:46:21 AM

B1 racing for all your pump, loader and machine work needs. Chris is in Santa Ana and does great work..... So does joe 👋👋👋👋👋👋


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So I went and talked with Chris... Crap I really didn't think it was going to cost that much! Plus he added the option of a stuffer...

I'd really like to just get this porpoising problem fixed and be able to enjoy the boat, so it may be another summer I have to put up with some stupid Micky mouse fixes.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: jyeager on January 22, 2015, 11:26:27 AM

So I went and talked with Chris... Crap I really didn't think it was going to cost that much! Plus he added the option of a stuffer...

I'd really like to just get this porpoising problem fixed and be able to enjoy the boat, so it may be another summer I have to put up with some stupid Micky mouse fixes.


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Quality work cost money. But you won't be disappointed with his work. We have had Chris do 3 pumps, 3, loaders, bottom work, set 1 intake, and make tons of shims and shoes. Never once has he left us hanging and he will always explain what's going on to you.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on January 22, 2015, 11:43:08 AM

Quality work cost money. But you won't be disappointed with his work. We have had Chris do 3 pumps, 3, loaders, bottom work, set 1 intake, and make tons of shims and shoes. Never once has he left us hanging and he will always explain what's going on to you.


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Yeah I really got that feeling there talking with him.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on February 02, 2015, 10:40:58 AM
So I wanted to replace the leaking fuel fill I have, and was thinking I would just be able to pull out the old hose add a gasket and install a new hose. That is not looking like the case. It looks like I will have to remove (unrit) the existing fills and then reinstall them. Is there another way to get this done?



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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: Roadrunner on February 02, 2015, 11:04:35 AM
I just did this last year. It cost me about $85 total. Brand new, exact replacement, factory original fuel fills are only $33 bucks each. New 2" hose is $5, and I replaced the stainless hose clamps $8. Look at your fuel fill rubber seals. I'd bet they need replacement too. If you are removing the fuel fills, might as well have piece of mind and install new for the next 30 years of use.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on February 02, 2015, 11:28:21 AM

I just did this last year. It cost me about $85 total. Brand new, exact replacement, factory original fuel fills are only $33 bucks each. New 2" hose is $5, and I replaced the stainless hose clamps $8. Look at your fuel fill rubber seals. I'd bet they need replacement too. If you are removing the fuel fills, might as well have piece of mind and install new for the next 30 years of use.


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Yeah I was really try to not have to remove them... I don't have to tools to put them back in. Haha


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on February 02, 2015, 11:28:23 AM

I just did this last year. It cost me about $85 total. Brand new, exact replacement, factory original fuel fills are only $33 bucks each. New 2" hose is $5, and I replaced the stainless hose clamps $8. Look at your fuel fill rubber seals. I'd bet they need replacement too. If you are removing the fuel fills, might as well have piece of mind and install new for the next 30 years of use.


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Yeah I was really try to not have to remove them... I don't have to tools to put them back in. Haha


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Title: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: Roadrunner on February 02, 2015, 12:21:47 PM
You don't have to re-rivet them. You can thru- bolt with stainless fasteners. Mine is a 1977 also. That is how it came from the factory.


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Title: Re: 77 Southwind Mini-day
Post by: More2LifeThanMPG on February 02, 2015, 08:13:34 PM

You don't have to re-rivet them. You can thru- bolt with stainless fasteners. Mine is a 1977 also. That is how it came from the factory.


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Thank you, process is done.

Logs are out for milling. Boat is in pieces getting a thorough inspection and cleaning, fixing all the little stuff.


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