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Ferrari/lambo power
« on: November 14, 2013, 10:25:30 PM »
Just kinda curious... Has anyone ever thought of putting in a v12 in their boat? I'm just thought that would be kinda cool.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2013, 11:35:52 PM »
I think it would be cool motor will be less weight in the boat and a lot more electrial wires running through the thing.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2013, 11:44:50 PM »
why bother when you can even crank out 1000hp+ easily with a small block...   :screwy:

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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2013, 06:33:50 AM »
twin turbo small block.. that's what im talking about !!!!   >:D
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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2013, 08:12:11 AM »
Torque moves boats. Not horsepower.. There are many reasons big blocks are used more than small blocks. One being the cost of building big torque is less than to build similar torque in a small block. Another is rpm. It takes a small block a lot more rpm to build the same power a big block can produce in a much lower rpm. Which in some cases as in out drives you are limited to Ron's before the gears self destruct. As well as in a jet or even a v drive the gearing you would need for the small block application would kill your cruising speed as well as any efficiency.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2013, 08:54:48 AM »
You guys are forgetting the most important part, a small block sounds good, a big block sounds better, and a V12 turning 10 plus grand is music of the gods.
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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2013, 09:16:22 AM »
Music to the gods huh, well you better be praying to the gods when that pump explodes at those high rpms.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2013, 09:56:50 AM »
the gearing you would need for the small block application would kill your cruising speed as well as any efficiency.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2013, 10:01:31 AM »

Simply.....untrue

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how do you figure? It s simple... A small block to make similar power is at much higher rpms than a bb therefore you must hear appropriately... Look at it this way. If you can run a 28 pitch prop on a bb and cruise at say 50 at 3500 rpm but for a Sb application would need let's just say a 24 pitch prop what do you think your cruising speed of 50 mph your rpms would be?


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2013, 10:07:43 AM »
Or if you don't know props it's the same thing in jets. Change the 28 to an A impeller and the 24 into a B


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2013, 10:25:45 AM »
how do you figure? It s simple... A small block to make similar power is at much higher rpms than a bb therefore you must hear appropriately... Look at it this way. If you can run a 28 pitch prop on a bb and cruise at say 50 at 3500 rpm but for a Sb application would need let's just say a 24 pitch prop what do you think your cruising speed of 50 mph your rpms would be?


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How do I prop a Berkeley?
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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2013, 11:50:28 AM »


???
How do I prop a Berkeley?
i also put it in jet terms right after that post if you didn't see it


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2013, 12:04:44 PM »
I cruise @ 3000-3500, with an 'A'
WOT is ~4600
In the mid 5's mpg
GPS'd @ 55-58, lookin for 60

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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2013, 12:42:55 PM »

I cruise @ 3000-3500, with an 'A'
WOT is ~4600
In the mid 5's mpg
GPS'd @ 55-58, lookin for 60

Dan'l
what is your application? And every boat is different... But the point I was making is apples for apples as to why big blocks are used over small blocks. For instance my 468 with a blue printed pump and an A impeller cruised at 50+ mph at 3800 rpm and pulled 6500 wot to get a small block to turn similar rpm and put the proper impeller to accommodate the torque curve and you will not have the same cruising speed to rpm it's quite simple.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2013, 12:51:28 PM »
And the segment continues, we will be back after a short break and continue this discussion on " what spins your impeller"


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2013, 12:57:09 PM »
And the segment continues, we will be back after a short break and continue this discussion on " what spins your impeller"


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2013, 12:59:52 PM »
what is your application? And every boat is different... But the point I was making is apples for apples as to why big blocks are used over small blocks. For instance my 468 with a blue printed pump and an A impeller cruised at 50+ mph at 3800 rpm and pulled 6500 wot to get a small block to turn similar rpm and put the proper impeller to accommodate the torque curve and you will not have the same cruising speed to rpm it's quite simple.


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Impressive HP in that 468, 2hp per cube?

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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2013, 01:06:15 PM »

???
How do I prop a Berkeley?

Well its pretty easy.... Step 1- Unbolt the bowl. Step 2- Hammer,JB weld, and a series of hose clamps the prop to the end of the shaft. Step 3- Floor that bitch! BAM ur done! O0 DUH!!!
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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2013, 01:09:47 PM »
Impressive HP in that 468, 2hp per cube?

mine's a stock azz sbc  ;)

Dan'l


Or........ The pump cavitates to allow the required slippage.

Just saying.

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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2013, 01:37:46 PM »


Or........ The pump cavitates to allow the required slippage.

Just saying.

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definitely not cavitating....


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2013, 01:38:24 PM »

Well its pretty easy.... Step 1- Unbolt the bowl. Step 2- Hammer,JB weld, and a series of hose clamps the prop to the end of the shaft. Step 3- Floor that bitch! BAM ur done! O0 DUH!!!
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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2013, 01:41:26 PM »

Impressive HP in that 468, 2hp per cube?

mine's a stock azz sbc  ;)

Dan'l
o not quite. But yes. A very good running motor.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2013, 01:47:02 PM »


Or........ The pump cavitates to allow the required slippage.

Just saying.

GT

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That is impressive. Your turning 6500 with an A impeller? Inducer? What am I doing wrong? Hahaha


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2013, 05:41:34 PM »


That is impressive. Your turning 6500 with an A impeller? Inducer? What am I doing wrong? Hahaha


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well it is actually 6400 but the 5 is right next to my 4 and I'm on my iPhone. And no I didn't have an inducer it was a 14:1 compression 468 if dart heads tunnel ram and dual Holley set up. Far from a slouch motor. If that helps answer your question.


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Re: Ferrari/lambo power
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2013, 06:32:33 PM »
well it is actually 6400 but the 5 is right next to my 4 and I'm on my iPhone. And no I didn't have an inducer it was a 14:1 compression 468 if dart heads tunnel ram and dual Holley set up. Far from a slouch motor. If that helps answer your question.


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