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Brad @ SCJB

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Re: New Addition to the SCJB Family...
« Reply #200 on: February 12, 2008, 03:02:54 PM »
yup....thats what we are doin and was suggested by the paint mfg.
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« Reply #201 on: February 12, 2008, 03:04:40 PM »
yup....thats what we are doin and was suggested by the paint mfg.

are you sparying color over the clear???
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Brad @ SCJB

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« Reply #202 on: February 12, 2008, 03:05:27 PM »
are you sparying color over the clear???

no....clear right on the 2part epoxy primer
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« Reply #203 on: February 12, 2008, 03:06:19 PM »
Going for the flat look?

Sorry a little confused
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« Reply #204 on: February 12, 2008, 03:06:22 PM »
no....clear right on the 2part epoxy primer

I expected so much more then a white boat :sly:
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Brad @ SCJB

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« Reply #205 on: February 12, 2008, 03:07:19 PM »
I expected so much more then a white boat :sly:

i got a race coming up in less then 3 weeks. no time for anything else. thats what i got a sticker machine for.
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« Reply #206 on: February 12, 2008, 03:08:58 PM »
i got a race coming up in less then 3 weeks. no time for anything else. thats what i got a sticker machine for.

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« Reply #207 on: February 12, 2008, 03:09:47 PM »
i got a race coming up in less then 3 weeks. no time for anything else. thats what i got a sticker machine for.

True...But I would of stayed with the "rolled on" look, it added caracter! :screwy:
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Brad @ SCJB

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« Reply #208 on: February 12, 2008, 03:11:28 PM »
Going for the flat look?

Sorry a little confused

no...thats what the clear is for....its going to be ALL WHITE....the primer is glossy as is...the clear will make it more glossy.

True...But I would of stayed with the "rolled on" look, it added caracter! :screwy:

um, no.
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« Reply #209 on: February 12, 2008, 03:21:11 PM »
The clear coat will also act as a sealer and when it comes times for the graphics it should be a hard enough coating as to not leave any tape lines.  It's kind of like using expensive stuff in place of the intercoat.
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« Reply #210 on: February 12, 2008, 03:25:59 PM »
SO DUE TO TIME AND MONEY AND NOT LAYING DOWN THE SEALER WHICH WILL FILL IN THE SANDING MARKS THEN THE BASE AND THEN THE CLEAR. YOU LAY DOWN PRIMER THEN CLEAR WHAT EVER GETS YOU ON THE WATER.
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« Reply #211 on: February 12, 2008, 03:49:38 PM »
I dont know shit about paints....zero.

I went over to SPI as suggested by Jrork and asked for their opinion on what was the quickest way to get this thing done. no one said anything about fillers. Also, I was told by barry (owner) that this primer should fill 80 grit no problem....even though i went over the boat with 180 grit, you can still see sanding scratches. I am not saying he is wrong, but it could very well be the way we applied the paint. This is my first time painting something of this scale.....second time for my buddy.

Remember, I got 3 weeks till the race to build this boat....that doesnt include testing....or the fact i have a full time job. I'm further behind then I was with the raspberry and the boat is 'hands off' for a few days.....which brings me to 2 weeks left. I wish i had all the time in the world to do it right to silence critics, but thats not the case. I am making due with what I have and know....and the help of some very kind people on this site.
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« Reply #212 on: February 12, 2008, 03:52:36 PM »
i think you are doing a great job for the amount of time invested ;D
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« Reply #213 on: February 12, 2008, 03:56:53 PM »
i dont care about critics, and sometimes we are our own worst critics :banghead: we will do our best to make this happen. ;)
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« Reply #214 on: February 12, 2008, 03:59:36 PM »
I hate to say it, But that boat is looking phucking great! Brad
I almost want to buy a jet to do the same thing. Keep up the good work!
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« Reply #215 on: February 12, 2008, 04:02:42 PM »
b-rad i had my painter check it out, for the next step ....i think wet sand w/ 800 to clean up the dirts and then scotch bright with paint soap wash off and spray the clear and then the paint will be smoother....and faster!!!
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« Reply #216 on: February 12, 2008, 04:05:05 PM »
damn chromey look at your karma :o
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Re: New Addition to the SCJB Family...
« Reply #217 on: February 12, 2008, 04:05:45 PM »
 ;) karma
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« Reply #218 on: February 12, 2008, 04:06:55 PM »
b-rad i had my painter check it out, for the next step ....i think wet sand w/ 800 to clean up the dirts and then scotch bright with paint soap wash off and spray the clear and then the paint will be smoother....and faster!!!

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Re: New Addition to the SCJB Family...
« Reply #219 on: February 12, 2008, 04:07:55 PM »
b-rad i had my painter check it out, for the next step ....i think wet sand w/ 800 to clean up the dirts and then scotch bright with paint soap wash off and spray the clear and then the paint will be smoother....and faster!!!

chromey....is this stuff you guys have there? or should i make a quick run to the local jobber hut.
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« Reply #220 on: February 12, 2008, 04:21:41 PM »
handled!!...new socaljet boat sponcer  " chromey's concepts "
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« Reply #221 on: February 12, 2008, 04:26:30 PM »
handled!!...new socaljet boat sponcer  " chromey's concepts "

ill send you sticker proofs once i get to that point of the project.
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« Reply #222 on: February 12, 2008, 04:38:28 PM »
I dont know shit about paints....zero.

I went over to SPI as suggested by Jrork and asked for their opinion on what was the quickest way to get this thing done. no one said anything about fillers. Also, I was told by barry (owner) that this primer should fill 80 grit no problem....even though i went over the boat with 180 grit, you can still see sanding scratches. I am not saying he is wrong, but it could very well be the way we applied the paint. This is my first time painting something of this scale.....second time for my buddy.

Remember, I got 3 weeks till the race to build this boat....that doesnt include testing....or the fact i have a full time job. I'm further behind then I was with the raspberry and the boat is 'hands off' for a few days.....which brings me to 2 weeks left. I wish i had all the time in the world to do it right to silence critics, but thats not the case. I am making due with what I have and know....and the help of some very kind people on this site.


Brad, two stage paint always looks shitty when it's just paint, IMO, it should be tits when you get the clear on. The clear is the shine and finish. If you want graphics, do them now and clear away, you will get no tape lines that way.
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« Reply #223 on: February 12, 2008, 04:41:03 PM »
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ill send you sticker proofs once i get to that point of the project.

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« Reply #224 on: February 12, 2008, 07:41:55 PM »
b-rad i had my painter check it out, for the next step ....i think wet sand w/ 800 to clean up the dirts and then scotch bright with paint soap wash off and spray the clear and then the paint will be smoother....and faster!!!

Let me jump in with my lack of knowledge and say that thing looks fantastic.  IF, Brad had all the time in the world it would have been great to go with the epoxy, then some 2K primer then the base coat and then the clear but let's be honest guys, he's doing fantastic with a VERY short timeline.

The epoxy does a nice job of sealing the boat and get's it in one color. That epoxy has a pretty nice gloss too.  The key is when he blows on the clear.  It is gonna be blinging for shine. Most base coats that I looked into had a very flat look. It was the clear that gave them the shine.

Chromey, I agree with the idea of the 800. If it loads up the paper, you might try 600 instead.

Also, you might want to tell your sprayer that when I sprayed the Universal Clear, I put on a medium wet coat and followed that up with 2 more coats of it WET.  It was so wet that I was actually watching the ripples in the wet clear as I was spraying.  Turn off the booth fans as soon as the overspray is gone from spraying the last coat and have a couple cold ones. The orange peel flows out this way really well.

Brad, run your race and then sometime when you're chilling with nothing to do, you can wetsand it with some 1500 and 2000 grit and get somebody to buff it and it'll look even better. 

If you want to do some graphics sometime in the future, sand the clear, shoot your graphics and pull your tape ASAP while the graphic paint is still a little wet so it'll flow. Follow that up with some more clear and you'll be fine.

Regardless, I think you're doing great given the challenges you're under and once again hats off to Chromey...................john
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