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2savage4you

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Re: Original Problem child
« Reply #25 on: January 29, 2008, 05:23:07 PM »
And the exhaust port. As you can see by the gasket there is alot to be removed for a better flow.

 And want to say thanks to Jetaholic for running all this down for me And of course 429heads cause we will be doing these heads and drinking some beers >:D

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« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2008, 09:12:33 PM »
2sav, like I said before, I would absolutley tear it down and go through it......   396 block???   wtf??  Is that a shorter stroke or a smaller bore?  The guy I got it off told me 468"....   I found another set of rods that I'll bring out to you next time I come out, but they are 6.135 (i think std 454)  I'm glad you pulled it apart and are going to take the time to build it right.  The boat will take way more time than the motor will..........   Also, on the performance boat site, there's a guy selling a brand new set of ARP main studs for 60 bucks,  that would be a good deal for that block.....
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« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2008, 10:16:28 PM »
All factory BBC's use rods that are 6.135" long. The 396 has it's own stroke and bore. The 402 uses a 396 crank with it's own bore. The 427 is basically a 396 crank with a 454 bore.
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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2008, 10:17:43 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2008, 05:18:20 AM »
2sav, like I said before, I would absolutley tear it down and go through it......   396 block???   wtf??  Is that a shorter stroke or a smaller bore?  The guy I got it off told me 468"....   I found another set of rods that I'll bring out to you next time I come out, but they are 6.135 (i think std 454)  I'm glad you pulled it apart and are going to take the time to build it right.  The boat will take way more time than the motor will..........   Also, on the performance boat site, there's a guy selling a brand new set of ARP main studs for 60 bucks,  that would be a good deal for that block.....


Yeah just as we discussed , i will freshen it up and make it a bad MO FO ;D Ive also been watching them there ARP studs on that other site :o There is a couple members  here helping me out with running #'s and giving advice so i think we are good to go.

Soooooooooo................watch out Ford boy's there is a new Chevy in town >:D


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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2008, 09:08:35 AM »
Steve, let me know if I can help with anything.  I'm sorry that thing didn't turn out to be a 468, and if you wanted to go a diff direction I would understand and give you your money back.  I guess I will be checking numbers from now on!!!!!!!!!   I just saw a BBC 4 bolt and had no reason to think otherwise.  Let me know on the rods and they're yours if you want em.   Jason
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2008, 04:34:29 PM »
 Jason thanks, If you come across a nice set of BBC heads keep me in mind ;D
Well i had to go to Vegas today so i didnt get much done except for this :o

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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2008, 04:48:57 PM »
sweet...ya know forged pistons fit w/ over twice the clearence as cast pistons. Thats why it's important to warm your enigine up properly before dropping the hammer, they swell up a little when warmed. Damn, if you would have ccalled when in town i could have given you my old calipers I got two new sets today. Any idea what the bore is yet?
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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2008, 04:57:55 PM »
sweet...ya know forged pistons fit w/ over twice the clearence as cast pistons. Thats why it's important to warm your enigine up properly before dropping the hammer, they swell up a little when warmed. Damn, if you would have ccalled when in town i could have given you my old calipers I got two new sets today. Any idea what the bore is yet?

Im just messing with you guy's thats not even my engine, i found it on a search >:D I pulled the pistons out today and they looked good i think with a hone and new rings i will be good to go on that end.  Next time im in Vegas i will give you a buzz , which might be next month again. Check out this crank its 010 but it sure is purdy ;)

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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2008, 05:25:25 PM »
nice.....got the oil holes chamfered, nice polish job, sweet. So....what is it, 396, 454, 427...?
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Re: Original Problem child
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2008, 05:32:50 PM »
nice.....got the oil holes chamfered, nice polish job, sweet. So....what is it, 396, 454, 427...?


396    060    as far as i can tell ;D

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Re: Original Problem child
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2008, 05:43:31 PM »
If it's 0 decked you could always check out the stroke with a dial caliper
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2008, 05:52:12 PM »
If it's 0 decked you could always check out the stroke with a dial caliper

Crank #'s 3904815....396,402...cast, nodular iron , Thats from MorTec.
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« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2008, 05:05:23 PM »
Well here we go again. Thanks to Tony i have another block, so now i have a real 454. Could not use the one i just bought here, toooo many heli coils in the block and machine shop said trash it :o so im just spending money on junk it looks like, not the first time. well  here it is not to purdy but its what it say's it is.

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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2008, 09:27:34 PM »
Cool, what did you get? 2 bolt/4 bolt? Heads?
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2008, 12:53:32 AM »
Well here we go again. Thanks to Tony i have another block, so now i have a real 454. Could not use the one i just bought here, toooo many heli coils in the block and machine shop said trash it :o so im just spending money on junk it looks like, not the first time. well  here it is not to purdy but its what it say's it is.

2sav ::)

  :o Dammm, sorry to hear the bad news, again  :( .  I dont know much about Chevys, but if the 396 crank and rods are still good cant you use them in the 454 block to make a 427 ? 
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« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2008, 05:51:36 AM »
Well here we go again. Thanks to Tony i have another block, so now i have a real 454. Could not use the one i just bought here, toooo many heli coils in the block and machine shop said trash it :o so im just spending money on junk it looks like, not the first time. well  here it is not to purdy but its what it say's it is.

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« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2008, 07:57:14 AM »
  :o Dammm, sorry to hear the bad news, again  :( .  I dont know much about Chevys, but if the 396 crank and rods are still good cant you use them in the 454 block to make a 427 ? 



Yeah thats the game plan.

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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2008, 10:56:44 AM »
Man Steve, sounds like that thing is turning out to be a nightmare...........   The offer still stands to return your money, I had no idea that think was as big a basket case as it sounds..   If not, I'll at least pay to have that block punched out to the right size...........   Jason
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« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2008, 10:57:32 AM »
Cool, what did you get? 2 bolt/4 bolt? Heads?

Its just a  2 bolt , but it can be machined for a 4 bolt but i dont think its necessary ???

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« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2008, 10:59:31 AM »
Man Steve, sounds like that thing is turning out to be a nightmare...........   The offer still stands to return your money, I had no idea that think was as big a basket case as it sounds..   If not, I'll at least pay to have that block punched out to the right size...........   Jason



Well you could reimburse the $200 for the other block i just bought ;) I would call that fair.

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Re: Original Problem child
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2008, 11:05:40 AM »
  :o Dammm, sorry to hear the bad news, again  :( .  I dont know much about Chevys, but if the 396 crank and rods are still good cant you use them in the 454 block to make a 427 ? 
You can do it, but the bob weight between a 396 crank and a true 427 crank are different. The pistons will weight more on a 427, so the balancer may have to add some metal to the crank.

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« Reply #47 on: February 02, 2008, 11:09:30 AM »
You can do it, but the bob weight between a 396 crank and a true 427 crank are different. The pistons will weight more on a 427, so the balancer may have to add some metal to the crank.



Well then there it is. I will just buy another crank and make it my 468. I aint making parker at this rate>:(

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« Reply #48 on: February 02, 2008, 11:09:59 AM »
Man Steve, sounds like that thing is turning out to be a nightmare...........   The offer still stands to return your money, I had no idea that think was as big a basket case as it sounds..   If not, I'll at least pay to have that block punched out to the right size...........   Jason

Man you can't ask for any better than that!!  You're the man Jason!!   Greg
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« Reply #49 on: February 02, 2008, 11:12:24 AM »
Man you can't ask for any better than that!!  You're the man Jason!!   Greg

Yeah the way its going that might be a good idea.....

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