Pantera Resto

« **on:** November 04, 2008, 08:14:03 AM »

This is a 17' Pantera with a late model centerbolt SBC and Panther jet , the customer says the boat ran and handled poorly first time out (30 mph).
Heres the "before" pictures of the Pantera ,this customer came to us from SCJB and were honored to do this , please watch this thread as we work our way thru restoration and repairs on nearly every aspect of this boat and trailer Thanks Tom

« **Reply #1 on:** November 04, 2008, 08:22:46 AM »

Names withheld to protect the ... guilty???

« **Reply #2 on:** November 04, 2008, 08:39:32 AM »

Did it let out big "GROWL" when it was dropped off

Oh man , I kill me !

All kidding aside , that thing sexy . I do have a few questions though , feel free to answer them during the Q&A part of the resto.

1. Whats the deal on the carb . Outlaw's Cole had one and me and boost were picture texting back and forth on day trying to figure it out . I never did get a response as to what it is excactly .

2. The almight Panther Jet ! Gotta love them and all there quirky-ness . I'm under the impression that all Panthers come with SS impellors and a PVC type wear ring. Axial-flow vs. mixed flow pump . Sorry dont mean to derail the thread , I think just a little bit of info on this perticular combo could shed alot of light as why it was used or effective . Thanks Tom/Rhonda/Josh , I'll be keeping an eye on this from the back seat

-beerjet-

« **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2008, 10:30:49 AM »

Quote from: beerjet on November 04, 2008, 08:39:32 AM

1. Whats the deal on the carb . Outlaw's Cole had one and me and boost were picture texting back and forth on day trying to figure it out . I never did get a response as to what it is excactly .
-beerjet-

The carb is either a Holley 4010 or 4011. Not sure how long they were made and believe if you try to look the numbers up now it supercedes to a conventional Holley. A little research, and it looks like the 4010 was a "square bore" and the 4011 a "spread bore". If so, the carb pictured is a 4011.

« **Reply #4 on:** November 04, 2008, 12:32:04 PM »

Any idea on CFM , good or bad , junk beacause of age I assume .

-beerjet-

« **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2008, 05:59:40 PM »

They came in a variety of CFM, 600 through 800, I think. Don't think age would necessarily be more of an issue than with any other carb. I want to say that design came out in about the late 80's. Much simpler than a standard Holley and easier to make a "marine" version out of that design. Unless something is damaged, a clean and refresh would probably make it nearly good as new.

« **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2008, 07:50:31 PM »

I'll get the Dope from my "walking Holley book"(Josh) but its a Holley idea "gone wrong" its definatley gotta go ! Old squirt remember the old Ford 4bbl? looks alot like it huh ? Tom

« **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2008, 01:14:04 AM »

From what I remember Holley "borrowed" the idea from Ford. A couple of selling points I remember was that there were no gaskets sealing fuel below the fuel line and the new shinny finish.

« **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2008, 06:49:01 PM »

Quote from: jet boat performance on November 04, 2008, 07:50:31 PM

Old squirt remember the old Ford 4bbl? looks alot like it huh ? Tom

Exactly what I thought when they came out. Didn't Holley manufacture those old Ford 4bbl carbs for Ford at one time?

« **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2008, 07:45:38 PM »

Quote from: Oldsquirt on November 05, 2008, 06:49:01 PM

Exactly what I thought when they came out. Didn't Holley manufacture those old Ford 4bbl carbs for Ford at one time?

I dunno but Josh says you can take the top off and adjust the float while its running (or something) ?? I'll heve to make sure I heard him right ? I do think I had one on my 57 ford 312 cu though !

« **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2008, 08:00:59 PM »

Is it going to lose the panther? What's the plan with her. Or do I just have to wait and see.lol

« **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2008, 08:33:51 PM »

Quote from: SLCKREG on November 05, 2008, 08:00:59 PM

Is it going to lose the panther? What's the plan with her. Or do I just have to wait and see.lol

Yeah its gettin a "sex change" ..

« **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2008, 08:49:21 PM »

Quote from: jet boat performance on November 05, 2008, 08:33:51 PM

Yeah its gettin a "sex change" ..

Soooo, your gonna put an outboard on it?

Hi Tom!

« **Reply #13 on:** November 06, 2008, 09:22:15 AM »

NO on the "whacker" but the sawsall is coming out PDQ

« **Reply #14 on:** November 11, 2008, 07:52:37 PM »

Its comin apart ! hmmm somthin got wrapped up in the "gear werks"

Tom

« **Reply #15 on:** November 11, 2008, 08:48:52 PM »

Dang Tom
you guys roasting marshmellows back there. kind of reminds me of that... squished marshmellows. slow roasted. lol.

« **Reply #16 on:** December 03, 2008, 07:53:12 PM »

Years back I was driving from San Jose to Santa Cruz one PM (when I was doing damage inspections full time) ALAS !! I spied a rectangular red box along side the freeway , I pulled over and risk life and limb to throw it in the back of my Colt There it was a SAWZALL (without regard one of the best tools I have in my arsenal ) . A guy once told me.... "give me a Sawzall and a Hammer and I can take down a house" Anyhow the Pantera went under The "skilled Sawzall /scalpel of Doctor Josh today , out with the Panther "pod" ready for the Berkeley intake and "set back" more to follow Tom

« **Reply #17 on:** December 03, 2008, 07:59:19 PM »

Damn Tommy, just how many of these surgerys has Josh done now? He can probably do it in his sleep.... Keep the pics coming buddy and give me a call some time. Say hi to the gang over there......john

« **Reply #18 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:43:32 PM »

Quote from: jet boat performance on December 03, 2008, 07:53:12 PM

Years back I was driving from San Jose to Santa Cruz one PM (when I was doing damage inspections full time) ALAS !! I spied a rectangular red box along side the freeway , I pulled over and risk life and limb to throw it in the back of my Colt There it was a SAWZALL (without regard one of the best tools I have in my arsenal ) .

I always wondered what happened to my sawzall.

Last time I saw it was when I laid it on the roof of my truck.

« **Reply #19 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:57:28 PM »

Hey Josh and Tom, nice work.... again....I have a little wisdom to offer you, first I commend Josh on the use of the dust mask and the safety glasses, safety is always overlooked, I have a lot of fiberglass particles in my eyes from working with the stuff for 20+ years, do yourselves a huge favor and get fit tested for a respirator, you will not be sorry and it does not cost a lot of dough.

I use a North 7600 series full face respirator anytime I am around polyester or resin dusts, with the repirator you will not get it in your eyes, mouth or nose and for that matter your lungs, we do not know what the long term effects of these new resins are. Here is the one I have been using for about 7 years, you'll love it...They do not cost much and are easy to maintain, Josh you've got a lot of boats to restore, you need to live for a long time...

« **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2008, 10:13:00 AM »

Thanks Bro Got them coming ! Tom
actually got the 5400's (7600's were out of stock)

« **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2008, 10:38:21 AM »

Where did you order from?

« **Reply #22 on:** December 04, 2008, 12:04:05 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on December 03, 2008, 08:57:28 PM

we do not know what the long term effects of these new resins are.

So that's why my pecker stopped working and my kids have gills!

« **Reply #23 on:** December 04, 2008, 07:56:34 PM »

Quote from: GAWnCA on December 04, 2008, 10:38:21 AM

Where did you order from?

This place showed up prices were great IMO and the service outstanding , we'll take a gruop photo for ya'll look like frikken aliens

http://www.sharpesafety.com/catalog/product-display.php3?ID=522

« **Reply #24 on:** December 04, 2008, 08:07:05 PM »

That's one place I looked and had the best price. Thanks. HOW MUCH FOR THAT PD set up?

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