SoCal Jet Boats
Tech Talk => Projects => Topic started by: OC2Vegas on July 13, 2009, 06:17:25 PM
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Well after looking and looking, searching and searching, I actually found something I am in love with.
Found it on Craigslist in Tucson, Arizona. Gave Raymond a call and had him go look at it. He liked it so much, the phone call I got was "Well, you have a boat" and buy the way "This thing is so nice, if you dont want it I'll keep it" and god knows Ray has enough boats.
1979 Sanger Super Jet
Set up for a 454, No motor
Berkeley 12JG-A
Hydraulic Divertor - New
Partially Sanded
Original Interior(Needs Replacing), Gauges, Steering
Trailer has already been gone through
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Nice!!
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Started looking immediatly for a 454 to build, couldnt really find something that wasnt already bored over .60, until Ray found this little thing down by him.
This "Little" thing started life as a '69 Corvette 427
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Nice!!
Thanks, I couldnt be happier with this find and its not even home yet!
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Lol, The things really growing on me too Jeremy! Prettiest thing in my front yard/driveway! But you got a 95% complete boat here! Only thing is paint and the interior being redone, then put it together! Can't wait to see what you do with it!
Boats actually A 78 by the HID, but titled a 79.
Pump rebuilt in '01, parked shortly after (elderly owners from Havasu).
Engine is what's gonna make this thing truly unique. Little thing?!?! This is like the Holy Grail of BBC engines!
Oh Yeah, 69 Hi Po 427/425hp Block (COPO or Corvette), 66 427/390hp oval heads.....seems to be put together VERY right, Should be a force to be reckoned with! (definately found a diamond by accident, some Corvette/Yenko restorers are gonna cringe we're putting this in a boat, but we gotta! that's what it was bought for!) Pretty sure there's a 454 crank in it (Did ping it, sounds forged to me!, and I'll bet my next paycheck 4 bolt main).
Ray
(BTW that new 460 is on it's way, the guys bud wants to deliver it, lol. Long story guys, Jeremy can elaborate on THAT story, >:D)
I think you should just leave the boat here................................... ..................... >:D
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Lol, The things really growing on me too Jeremy! Prettiest thing in my front yard/driveway! But you got a 95% complete boat here! Only thing is paint and the interior being redone, then put it together! Can't wait to see what you do with it!
Boats actually A 78 by the HID, but titled a 79.
Pump rebuilt in '01, parked shortly after (elderly owners from Havasu).
Engine is what's gonna make this thing truly unique. Little thing?!?! This is like the Holy Grail of BBC engines!
Oh Yeah, 69 Hi Po 427/425hp Block (COPO or Corvette), 66 427/390hp oval heads.....seems to be put together VERY right, Should be a force to be reckoned with! (definately found a diamond by accident, some Corvette/Yenko restorers are gonna cringe we're putting this in a boat, but we gotta! that's what it was bought for!) Pretty sure there's a 454 crank in it (Did ping it, sounds forged to me!, and I'll bet my next paycheck 4 bolt main).
Ray
(BTW that new 460 is on it's way, the guys bud wants to deliver it, lol. Long story guys, Jeremy can elaborate on THAT story, >:D)
I think you should just leave the boat here................................... ..................... >:D
I havent been able to whipe the grin off my face since we found that motor. I think he's gonna wake up one day and REALLY regret the decision to sell it for what he did! >:D
Cant wait to get it all home!
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I havent been able to whipe the grin off my face since we found that motor. I think he's gonna wake up one day and REALLY regret the decision to sell it for what he did! >:D
Cant wait to get it all home!
What can I say? I have an honest face! (And the guy with the boat wouldn't budge, so I hadda make up for it somehow!).
Can't wait either! Can't get the Moo outta the garage! (gonna be a fiasco tomorrow rearranging so I can, taking her out Friday, lol).
But this is gonna be one of those Speshul Boats, small, tight, flat hull with a ton of HP! I'm likin it! Congrat's Jeremy!
Ray
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That's a cool boat, the wood and engine box looks really nice still! Rare to find :thumbup:
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Oh and it gets better, Jeremy, can I share all the pics? lol
Ray
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That's a cool boat, the wood and engine box looks really nice still! Rare to find :thumbup:
In a round about way, I am the 2nd owner and from the reciepts that came with it, it was professionally maintained. To keep the Stringers looking good I am going to add steel to the outside of the rail kit.
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Engine mounts (get wood looking at them in the 'rage, BBC, but it'll do!).
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Headers
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Pretty much all the missing crap we all (I know I did) search for to complete a boat!
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Didn't even post the extra crap with the engine!
Jeremy, you are SO set up here!
Ray
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The only thing I can see we nned is some hoses. This is looking like an old 427 w/ a fair amount of compresion and a wazzoo stick in it, judging by the casting numbers, head CCs, and stud girdle. Looks to be done well judging by the hardware, ARP bolts n shit. I say drop off the aluminum for polish, the interior to be redone, we can buff the gel tape and paint the Sanger ring and motor blue, pick up the aluminum and interior and she's DONE!
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Oh, got a name for her too, "Borrowed Time"
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Oh, got a name for her too, "Borrowed Time"
Since its a Super Jet with a Corvette motor:
"Sanger Super Vette"
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I have logs so pardon my ignorance here: On the pics of the headers - what are the little holes for in the headers that are located beside the H2O injection fittings? Or am I just confused like usual? :sly:
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Those are the weep holes, so water doesnt build up there on shutdown.
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very nice ;)
Now nobody can give you shiat for not having a boat.................
Oh never mind, well never stop giving you shiat :D
now get her home and finish her.... Times a wastin 8)
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very nice ;)
Now nobody can give you shiat for not having a boat.................
Oh never mind, well never stop giving you shiat :D
now get her home and finish her.... Times a wastin 8)
thats ok steve, I dished it out....I ca take it too.
I am going down to Rays on the 22nd, back on the 23rd. the idea is to have it in the water by the 15th of August and in Blythe 1 week later.
Paint seats, and rebuild in 3 weeks.....im fricken nutz!
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NaH! You'll get it done in time!
Decided to help you out and started finish sanding it today when I got home so you'd have a head start..........................
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>:D
Ray
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Funny Guy! :sly:
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very nice ;)
Now nobody can give you shiat for not having a boat.................
Oh never mind, well never stop giving you shiat :D
now get her home and finish her.... Times a wastin 8)
Talkin about giving shiat Steve You get yours WET yet ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D
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Talkin about giving shiat Steve You get yours WET yet ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D
What the hell ? ? ?
Your not supposed to get trailer queens wet :screwy:
Were all moved in now so its ready anytime i have somebody willing to go with ;)
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What the hell ? ? ?
Your not supposed to get trailer queens wet :screwy:
Were all moved in now so its ready anytime i have somebody willing to go with ;)
Just take the kids! ;)
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Just take the kids! ;)
Um , no..... there not my kids.
i want help not retards :banghead:
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What the hell ? ? ?
Your not supposed to get trailer queens with the dang dizzy at the wrong end wet, probably need to get towed, so I cant go by myself >:D :D :D
There I fixed it for you >:D
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Um , no..... there not my kids.
i want help not retards :banghead:
lol :D
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Steve, I'm off Friday and Saturday if you're up to it! Be a truck up there, but I can, and will, do it Thursday afternoon and leave Sunday AM if you're serious! (Lord I wanna see this thing run!)
Oh wait, the "no Retards" rule, can I get a pass? :D
Ray
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i am off friday as well, lets go sink i mean float a trailer queen >:D
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I'll pick ya up on the way Forkie!
Steve, how much beer allowance do you have this week? lol!
Ray
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I'll pick ya up on the way Forkie!
Steve, how much beer allowance do you have this week? lol!
Ray
So, friday is it, I'm off too....
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Steve, you get that bar stocked up yet?????? Looks like company!!!!!!
Ray
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Your not supposed to get trailer queens with the dang dizzy at the wrong end wet, probably need to get towed, so I cant go by myself
There I fixed it for you
::) Ford boys always thinking at the wrong end ::)
:D :D :D
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::) Ford boys always thinking at the wrong end ::)
:D :D :D
Yeah I know huh, But then again some Chebbie guys I know wanna repaint this thing, Why??? What's wrong with it? Not like it's painted like a herd of domestic cattle or anything? I guess you just feel the need to tear chit apart all the time! ;)
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Ray
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prolly want to repaint it because it has a kinda ford blue color to it, and the dizzy is at the wrong, so they might look like they is trying to pull a fast one and make one think that its a badass Ford, when in reality its a lowly chebbie :D :D :D :D :D >:D
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prolly want to repaint it because it has a kinda ford blue color to it, and the dizzy is at the wrong, so they might look like they is trying to pull a fast one and make one think that its a badass Ford, when in reality its a lowly chebbie :D :D :D :D :D >:D
I dont see the resemblance and the Dizzy is right wher it belongs!
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prolly want to repaint it because it has a kinda ford blue color to it, and the dizzy is at the wrong, so they might look like they is trying to pull a fast one and make one think that its a badass Ford, when in reality its a lowly chebbie :D :D :D :D :D >:D
Looks like Plum Crazy to me.........
Ford blue ha in your dreams...
Bad ass ford, Never heard of it :screwy:
;D
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I freakin' love Y block Fords, they will run forever 4 qts low on oil, a radiator with a split seam and a lead foot pushing it!
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Well after weeks of "life getting in the way" I am heading down to Dr. Cow Bells in a few hours to pick up the Sanger and motor. Will be back with it on Sunday!
The drive is gonna suck but worth every mile it takes to get this thing home! ;D
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Ya, be nice to get my driveway back ;)
LMAO
Ray
Really hate to see it go though, I had many a wild idea lookin at it................even thought of a Skunk paint job.....! lol
Jeremy, you should have a very good, running, serious HP boat in a few weeks there though in all honesty! Talked to Nordie last night and he said I wasn't allowed to even give it to you, only to Brooke, lol.
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Congrats!!!! Can't wait to see a thread on it. I sure do like my sons Sanger.
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even thought of a Skunk paint job.....! lol
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Talked to Nordie last night and he said I wasn't allowed to even give it to you, only to Brooke, lol.
If you did that she would try and sell it back to you! ;)
Ya, be nice to get my driveway back ;)
Why, your just going to put another boat in its place ;D
Congrats!!!! Can't wait to see a thread on it. I sure do like my sons Sanger.
I love the UFO and wish I would of got my hands on it. I know the two of you will do her proud! Cant wait to get my new one together and start enjoying it!
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Beers are on ice buddy, whenever you get here, lol!
This is gonna be one wild boat when it's done, lemme tell you! Moo is frightened and feels left out, lol. (Guess I need to throw the mechanical secondary conversions on to calm her down, lol).
And No, Brooke wouldn't do that! And even if she did, wouldn't buy it back unless she posed in the 'kini on it, lol! (she is SOOOO gonna beat me up for that!)
LOL, this is outta hand, lmao! See ya in a bit Bro!
Ray
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Well, its out of Rays driveway and hooked to my truck. I told Ray while I was driving down to his place that I fealt like I was going to pick up an adopted kid (Seen pictures, but never seen it in person type of thing).
I couldnt be happier with what Dr Cow Bells and myself found and bought. Each time I look at another item I get more excited.
Ray, Could'nt have done it with out you! You da' man! :thumbup:
Long drive back to Vegas in the morning.....more to come!
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After an eventful drive back, the Sanger is finally home. Engine is still in the back of my truck (No engine hoist, pulling it out with neighbors SeaDoo hoist on his 2 story trailer, should be interesting).
Already started stripping it down and getting all the stuff out of it, laying out all the parts to see whats there and conditions.
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Got the engine out of the truck, very funny cherry picking the motor with a seadoo lift (No pictures of it, everyone was helping with the lift). But here is where its staying till I get new bolts for the engine stand:
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Like I said, already started ripping into it, progress so far:
All of this was inside of it, All rotted out but at least good for templates
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Did find out there is already a loader on the pump and I crawled underneath and looked up in the pump, really clean and no chunks out of the impeller
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Nice--I never get tired of seeing these old Sangers brought back to life. I don't know your plans about interior, but I recently met the guy that ran Lee Wells upholstery (who did all of Sanger's interiors) for many years. He now has a little shop--works by himself--and has access to the original Sanger interior templates, and I was surprised at his prices and when I asked him about his reasonable prices, he said "low overhead, and lots of boat experience". I know I'm going to have him do an interior for my 17'-10" Sanger Flat this winter.
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congrats jeremy on getting it home i was wondering how you got the motor out of the truck no one called me so i went to bed...i was in lazy ass mode anyway...more pics man more pics!
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congrats jeremy on getting it home i was wondering how you got the motor out of the truck no one called me so i went to bed...i was in lazy ass mode anyway...more pics man more pics!
Thanks Nordie.
If any of the Vegas people have a cherry picker...love to borrow it for a little bit one day soon and I can get the engine up onto the stand.
As for the progress, this is before where all the rivet holes are:
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This is after about 4 hours of filling, sanding, filling, sanding, etc etc:
This is where the bottom didnt meet the top
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All the hols are filled and nice and smooth
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Gave a little attention to the top and they are nice and clean
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All of the progress has been on the drivers side rub rail holes and one spot where the top didnt really meet the bottom where it should. Have to work in the morning tomorrow but the other side is going to get finished up and sanded.
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Entire rub rail is filled in and sanded, just a little touch up on some of the holes. Most of the discolored gel on the top side has been sanded off with 220.
Still need to sand off the rest of the original paint, but need to make a pattern first and take some measurements.
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Pump has been removed (not to much silicon) in order to replace gaskets and paint the hull, inside of pump and impellor are in GREAT shape. Loader needs to be removed and cleaned up and painted. While the pumps out, going to touch up the white.
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Making some great progress there Jeremy! :thumbup:
Lookin good!
Ray
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Making some great progress there Jeremy! :thumbup:
Lookin good!
Ray
Just ordered all the gaskets and O-Rings from JBP to put the pump back together. Dont need it leaking!
Still need to order:
Steering Rack, Throttle Cable and F/R cable
Guages
Wiring
Fuel Flips and Hose (unless someone knows where to get the gaskets for them)
Steering Wheel
Primer and Paint
and 100 other things!
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Making some great progress there Jeremy! :thumbup:
Lookin good!
Ray
No kidding!!!! That's looking great already. Keep the pics coming and if you ever have a chance, we would love to look at the transom so we can compare bottoms (there's a signature line for somebody... ;D)
John (and Ian)
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Thanks John, the sanding part really sucks but I know the end result will be well worth it!
Any specific angles you want for comparison?
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Thanks John, the sanding part really sucks but I know the end result will be well worth it!
Any specific angles you want for comparison?
Oh yah, it'll be worth it and look killer. Keep it up (with more pics please ;D)
The bottom/transom interface and also if possible, from the back below the pump so we can compare the depth of this drop keel to another SuperJet.
Thanks again and take care...........
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There's no drop keel on Jeremy's boat, but he might wanna consider the same V-drive cav plate setup and pedal your son has on his! LOL That boat is flat and narrow, with that engine, gonna be a handful! And FUNNNN! Weeeeee!
Ray
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There's no drop keel on Jeremy's boat, but he might wanna consider the same V-drive cav plate setup and pedal your son has on his! LOL That boat is flat and narrow, with that engine, gonna be a handful! And FUNNNN! Weeeeee!
Ray
Yup, but I sure would like to compare his with one that didnt have the drop to see how much and get a better understanding of what a stock one looked like and how this one differed to try to understand it a bit better....
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Did I mention that sanding sucks?
As far a where the rub rail was, there is only 2 or 3 spots that need to be re-filled and sanded, Yeah! A little more sanding around the cockpit to remove the ol' paint. Once thats done the whole top half and sides will be sanded with 220 and be ready for primer and paint.
Now the tough part, found a hairline crack about a foot long (probably just a crack in the gel) in one of the strakes(sp) near the front and there are some spots where it looks like it tagged the trailer while loading/unloading and took a few spots of gel off, nothing major but after all the work that goings into this, it should damn well be perfect. So gonna need to flip her over and make it perfect. Should be able to fix the areas that need fixing and touch up the gel without spraying the whole bottom, otherwise....
Going to pick up the material for the seat frames this week and get that ready to send out to upholstery.
Floor however has some soft spots in it and I am trying to decide if I want to rip all that out or wait a couple months, run it for the rest of the season (Late October) and do the floor in the winter.
Yup, but I sure would like to compare his with one that didnt have the drop to see how much and get a better understanding of what a stock one looked like and how this one differed to try to understand it a bit better....
John, I will take some pictures tomorrow after I get a new memory card for the camera. Took some today and now the card wont do anything. :banghead:
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Floor however has some soft spots in it and I am trying to decide if I want to rip all that out or wait a couple months, run it for the rest of the season (Late October) and do the floor in the winter.
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You've been patient in your boat buy and build, why rush it now? Take the time and do it right while it's all apart, trust me it'll be a lot easier if you do it now.
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You've been patient in your boat buy and build, why rush it now? Take the time and do it right while it's all apart, trust me it'll be a lot easier if you do it now.
X2 what Skip said. Enjoy the project and don't rush through it. It's gonna be worth your time and good luck.
PS...no hurry on the pics. Just whenever and thanks........john
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You've been patient in your boat buy and build, why rush it now? Take the time and do it right while it's all apart, trust me it'll be a lot easier if you do it now.
X2 what Skip said. Enjoy the project and don't rush through it. It's gonna be worth your time and good luck.
Come on guys, those werent the answer I was looking for ::) I was hoping for "Go ahead and run her till winter".
I hear you guys, not trying to rush it, want it done right too.
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I say take it out and make sure your happy with it before you put a ton of time and money into it!
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I agree with Marc. Having seen the boat and walked the floor myself, it isn't bad at all, really. Run the thing.
On the other hand, theres not a very big floor in it, sooo either way wouldn't be a big deal. Time consuming, that's for sure.
Ray
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I agree with Marc. Having seen the boat and walked the floor myself, it isn't bad at all, really. Run the thing.
On the other hand, theres not a very big floor in it, sooo either way wouldn't be a big deal. Time consuming, that's for sure.
Ray
I walked on it a few times and at no time was I worried about it and I am 200+ there are just a few spots that have turned black maybe 4, 3" circles where the interior was attached.
Ya its not very big, I cant imagine it would take more then a few hours to remove it maybe 3' x 4'.
Would you guys put the foam back in?
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Nope. My experience with foam is it's only good for retaining water, and, er, um, fuel! Both are bad things!
Ray
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So good news, Got a transom plug and filled the transom with water...No leaks! So I dont have to take the intake out to reseal it :)
Question, The gasket that seals between the intake and the pump is on there damn good. Broke quite a few razor blades and have only gotten 25% of it off.
Any ideas on making it easier to remove? Have already ordered a new one along with some other ones from JBP.
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OC if ya have an air compressor and a small angled die grinder, you can use the 3M sanding discs. Other than that the one thing I might add is that if that gasket looked good, all you have to do is put a little white grease thinly on the gasket and just use the same gasket. Just a little info for the next time.
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OC if ya have an air compressor and a small angled die grinder, you can use the 3M sanding discs.
That did the trick!
The top side is almost completly done with 180(got rid of the sanding marks the 80 & 120 left really nice), then onto the 220. Boats getting moved to a dolly tomorrow in order to sand down the sides with 220 and repair a few things on the bottom near the front. Also going to redo the bunks and carpets with new stainless hardware.
Was suggested to me to take the whells and fenders off to get to the sides but the fenders are welded to the trailer.
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Well heres where were at, Top is 95% ready for Primer, just have some areas that are time consuming due to the angles and 2 spots that need to be filled and smooth because of some minor cracks that I wanted to sand past to make sure they dont come back. Transom is almost there, need to fill and smooth some areas that have a wave to 'em. Waiting for some friends to move it onto a dolly and the sides will be 100% ready for primer.
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Thanks OC!
Ill make a post over on the thread about the UFO so i dont threadjack you. But i believe ive just noticed a big difference on the UFO to a normal superjet!
thank you very much for the pics
Ian
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Not a problem, glad I could help
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Thanks again.........john
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So got the boat off the trailer and onto a dolly, that was fun! Amazing how much more room there is with the trailer gone.
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Gonna take the opportunity to redo the carpet and the bunks with new hardware, and rewire everything. Noticed a couple of the light that only comeone when they want to.
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I dun think it's gonna tow very well like that.....................
Ray
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I dun think it's gonna tow very well like that.....................
Ray
LOL, Thought about having Brooke tow me around the neighborhood on it for that I can make vroom vroom noises!
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Thats a neat dolly, though,. Seadoo dolly you say? oughta take some measurements and detailed pics of it, it looks like it'll work tits!
Ray
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Found one, not the same one but will do the job, says it will hold 1000lb
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=view&i=33806 (http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?r=view&i=33806)
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thats a nice dolly... I built mine for way under a bill, and then i turned it into a roll around work bench ;D
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Steve, you so crafty! But then, you tear apart a perfectly fine boat, so then you would need the bench! lol. >:D
Hopefully, that is all you need to do to that Sanger Jeremy. I, on the other hand, have found out the Saguaro needs flipped, that might be another matter! My neighbors are all retired, so maybe gonna be an SCJB party here (Or worse if I gotta recruit locally) to do it, lol.
You've had it 4 weeks now, whens it floating? >:D
Ray
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Steve, you so crafty! But then, you tear apart a perfectly fine boat, so then you would need the bench! lol.
Ray
Thanks, but ive never had a perfectly fine boat ???
Do they even exist :sly:
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Thanks, but ive never had a perfectly fine boat ???
Do they even exist :sly:
Best point I have ever seen! LMAO!
I guess I mistated that!!!
Ray
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how did my thread become about bashing steve again? ;)
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I guess because I got involved. Sorry, lol. I been told (many times) I have a problem with that.................. :sly:
Ray
FWIW, Still luv yah Steve! And Jeremy!
Jeremy, I thought of you when I found the Blown 396 though, honestly. I think THAT would set your boat of the HOOK! (There's a history of OC2 and I looking for engines, lol, funny story)
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I guess because I got involved. Sorry, lol. I been told (many times) I have a problem with that.................. :sly:
Ray
FWIW, Still luv yah Steve! And Jeremy!
Just given you 2 sh!t
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how did my thread become about bashing steve again? ;)
I guess because I got involved. Sorry, lol. I been told (many times) I have a problem with that.................. :sly:
Ray
Whats the problem. you being the SoCal Clown or tough guy
Just given you 2 sh!t
Yeah sorry for clouding up you'r thread, the boat is looking REALLY good. I can't wait to see it done ;)
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Terry and I got the engine stripped down today and inspected. Everything looks really good inside. The purple gets stripped off of it tomorrow and will get repainted and assembled this week.
Going to try to get it fired this week!
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VERY NICE
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seen jeremy going down the freeway with the purple motor this morning...glad to see my cherry picker getting some use hahaha....i was too hung over to see todays festivities at terrys today...got lots of sleep though...
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seen jeremy going down the freeway with the purple motor this morning...glad to see my cherry picker getting some use hahaha....i was too hung over to see todays festivities at terrys today...got lots of sleep though...
Glad you got some rest. Its getting plenty of use, but the thing is huge!
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.........and I'll bet my next paycheck 4 bolt main.
Guess I get your next paycheck, 2 bolt! :D
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OK, lol. That really surprises me, as much attention to detail that was obviously done on that engine he wouldn't have used a 4 bolt block. Not a bad thing, still a HP block!
Ray
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Before:
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After, No more Purple!
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judging by whats on the stand behind the purple people eater you guys got a motor in something else!
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judging by whats on the stand behind the purple people eater you guys got a motor in something else!
Terry got the blower SBC into the the car. The motor in the pick is the one from the patio with my Tunnel Ram and Terrys Zoomies
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i know.... ;)
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I still think you shoulda left the Purple and painted a Purple "Sanger Stripe" on the boat!
Hey is that first pic in my garage? ;D
Ray
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I still think you shoulda left the Purple and painted a Purple "Sanger Stripe" on the boat!
Hey is that first pic in my garage? ;D
Ray
No "Plum Crazy Purple" on a BBC! Yes, your garage...
i know.... ;)
Ya Ya ;)
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Ok, be that way, woulda made a sweet and unique looking ride! IMHO, lol. :screwy:
AND, much like the Moo, if stolen, god forbid, EVERYONE would know that boat and it's owner! Food for thought, lol. I mean, everyone on this site is ALL OVER craigs list and Ebay. If my boat popped up, Viola!
See the guy looking for info on Proppy's boat? Huh? Huh? There's a method to this madness!
Good looking progress though Jeremy, all kidding aside. THAT is going to be one freaking fun and fast boat! I hope Brooke knows what shes in for with that thing!
Ray
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Ok, be that way, woulda made a sweet and unique looking ride! IMHO, lol. :screwy:
AND, much like the Moo, if stolen, god forbid, EVERYONE would know that boat and it's owner! Food for thought, lol. I mean, everyone on this site is ALL OVER craigs list and Ebay. If my boat popped up, Viola!
See the guy looking for info on Proppy's boat? Huh? Huh? There's a method to this madness!
Good looking progress though Jeremy, all kidding aside. THAT is going to be one freaking fun and fast boat! I hope Brooke knows what shes in for with that thing!
Ray
But I dont want a Animal painted boat :screwy: Picked the colors tonight for it!
If she doesnt like it, well...Nevermind! >:D
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Picked the colors tonight for it!
If she doesnt like it, well...Nevermind! >:D
I'm tellin! ;D
Let us all know! Hell I got one painted like Domestic farm animals, another that is the most putrid shade of green, according to Glasscutter, another Yellow one, that has proven unpopular save for TJS's boat, how could you go more publicly wrong than I have? :screwy:
Ray ;D
I'd never rat you out to the Mrs. on a side note, lol.
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House of Kolor Lapis Blue w/ a pin stripe of HOK Galaxy Grey. Both are Base Color Metallics. Should "pop" real nice in the sun. Motor will just be the
Lapis Blue Cast iron Grey.
The Galaxy Grey will be an inch in similar to whats pictured. Not doing the other patterns.
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Engines Painted:
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Looking good Jeremy. Shouldn't be too much longer before you're out testing that sucker. Keep up the good work.
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Looking good Jeremy. Shouldn't be too much longer before you're out testing that sucker. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Skip, every step we complete gets me more excited! Have a lot of aluminum to polish still, Engine Re-assembly and hopefully fire on the 5th.
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Yup, this kid could have a runnin boat next week. I think we got all the poop we need 'cept pump gaskets
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I Still think it looked better Erkel Perkel.... ;D
Ray
Good work Young Man!
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I Still think it looked better Erkel Perkel.... ;D
Ray
Good work Young Man!
But what do you know, you drive a Cow Boat! ;)
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BTW when ya send back the "crinkles" make sure you use the new addy ! Tom
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Zoomies arent staying but the rest is...
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BTW when ya send back the "crinkles" make sure you use the new addy ! Tom
Not a problem!
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Awww c'mon now? Seriously! Tom helped you do this? :screwy:
Cow boat or not! Everyone knows the float! If it fails me, Maybe Tom can help fix THAT too, ;D
O0 O0
Ray
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Awww c'mon now? Seriously! Tom helped you do this? :screwy:
No, sent me some Berk gaskets that UPS folded...TWICE!
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least your getting your packages from ups...cant say the same over here...been 11 days now!!!! rental car at 14 days at 25 a day hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....i think i will reuse my sig line
thread jack over
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We made a little progress over the last few days, Getting some new hardware for a few things tomorrow, rebuild the carb and the engines done! :)
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Can't wait to see more pics. Good luck with this one. Since Ian bought his from Tommy I have grown to really like the Sangers.
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Lookin good kiddo! :thumbup:
Can't wait to see the paint on it.
Ray
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jeremy everything looks really good, but do yourself a favor, and get some aluminum valve covers the stamped steel ones tend to rust and look like dog shit....i know that's just looks, but bbc stuff is cheap
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jeremy everything looks really good, but do yourself a favor, and get some aluminum valve covers the stamped steel ones tend to rust and look like dog shit....i know that's just looks, but bbc stuff is cheap
Those are already planned. I hate the look of all the stamped stuff!
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let me know when you are ready for a nice set of aluminum valve covers and I will see what we have in our inventory at the time!
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let me know when you are ready for a nice set of aluminum valve covers and I will see what we have in our inventory at the time!
What you got now? They have to be tall enough to clear stud girdles!
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I won't know till monday. Inventory changes drasticaly over the weekends , and I don't work weekends.
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maybe something like this if you are interested.
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=8645.msg114583#msg114583
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maybe something like this if you are interested.
http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=8645.msg114583#msg114583
Like that or these:
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Those one's are more like $150
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Those one's are more like $150
And the ones you showed?
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Got the gaskets from Tom @ JBP today from the brown man, intake is painted, pump is painted, will install the pump soon and then the Engine is put in tomorrow. :)
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Forgot pictures of the Pump. This paint is great, covers really nice, is very forgiving. Havent had one run, good stuff!
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nicee
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New Stainless hardware tomorrow morning and the pump is done and installed. Engine also goes in tomorrow.
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I don't remember, is your loader through bolted? Nows the time to fix that!
Ray
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yes, it is ;D
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Motor in! ;D
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SIK! :thumbup:
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NICEE
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Looking good Grasshopper! I see you got the 'ol Grump involved in this! GOOD! He needs a diversion.
Sooooo whens the seats, cables, wiring, etc going in? lol (Temple Bar ain't THAT far away). Paint it later.......actually, if I bring enough rattle cans, we can all paint it for you then......... >:D
Ray
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looking good jeremy....my cherry picker is a whore
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Looking good Grasshopper! I see you got the 'ol Grump involved in this! GOOD! He needs a diversion.
Sooooo whens the seats, cables, wiring, etc going in? lol (Temple Bar ain't THAT far away). Paint it later.......actually, if I bring enough rattle cans, we can all paint it for you then......... >:D
Ray
Wiring probably tomorrow, gonna order plumbing tomorrow (Getting AN Fittings locally will cost way to much), Gonna use milk crates for seats. >:D
looking good jeremy....my cherry picker is a whore
Thanks Nordie, just wish she wasnt built like a 400lb whore!
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Gonna use milk crates for seats. >:D
Now that's just silly talk young man!
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Now that's just silly talk young man!
What? I am going to screw them to the floor with drywall screws, that should do it right?
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What? I am going to screw them to the floor with drywall screws, that should do it right?
Well, I s'pose you could do that, or I can teach you how to make bolsters (bases) for them that you won't have to screw to the hull.
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Well, I s'pose you could do that, or I can teach you how to make bolsters (bases) for them that you won't have to screw to the hull.
I really like that "row of screws sticking through the hull look" :screwy:
Tearing apart the 30 year old interior and using it for templates (With a few minor changes). That will get started hopefully next week.
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I really like that "row of screws sticking through the hull look" :screwy:
Tearing apart the 30 year old interior and using it for templates (With a few minor changes). That will get started hopefully next week.
Now you're talkin' :thumbup:
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Update,
Engine is almost all wired, Fuel Tanks are cleaned and plumbed, Pump is in, Boats almost wired and Oil and Filter is done.
Tomorrow is: Guages, wiring, Headers, intake manifold and some water lines. I we get the rest of carb rebuilt, may be able to turn it over.
No pics of the completed stuff. Just got too dark to take them.
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no pics.... It didn't happen ;)
Sounds like you are kicking ass on getting this thing done.
Can't wait to see it on the water ;D
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no pics.... It didn't happen ;)
Sounds like you are kicking ass on getting this thing done.
Can't wait to see it on the water ;D
Thanks Crew. Terry has been a big help though. Couldnt of gotten this far this fast without him.
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Thanks Crew. Terry has been a big help though. Couldnt of gotten this far this fast without him.
better hurry terry is getting something else dumped in his driveway
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better hurry terry is getting something else dumped in his driveway
Take a number! :D
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last time i checked terrys house wasnt the DMV :screwy: ;) :D
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last time i checked terrys house wasnt the DMV :screwy: ;) :D
:D
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better hurry terry is getting something else dumped in his driveway
Well, if we're all allowed to dump our chit on Terry, why are the rest of us werkin on our dogpiles? :screwy:
Ray
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speaking of where the hell has terry been lately?
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speaking of where the hell has terry been lately?
You know he never leaves the house!
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hasnt been on the site
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Some progress today.
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Looking good Jeremy! Although NOW you've got TWO local Sanger V-Drives to contend with!
Ray
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Looking good Jeremy! Although NOW you've got TWO local Sanger V-Drives to contend with!
Ray
Only 1 until the Hydro is together ;D
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Fuel System is complety done all the way to the fuel fills
Dash/Guages/Switches are almost all wired up
Headers and gaskets are on
Carbs completely rebuilt
Plumbing is done
Pump and divertor is done (minus 1 gasket)
Loader needs to be put in, Hydraulics need to be mounted and hoses ran, Interior is being torn down right now and new frames being built and need to order a bunch of odds and ends.
Should be in the water before the end of the month (except the paint being done) ;D
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Screw the paint. Get er wet and enjoy while the rest of us are either freezing or washing away... Pics look fantastic! Great job
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Screw the paint. Get er wet and enjoy while the rest of us are either freezing or washing away... Pics look fantastic! Great job
that was kinda the idea right now, its gonna be warm here pretty quick! Thanks.
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Screw the paint. Get er wet and enjoy while the rest of us are either freezing or washing away... Pics look fantastic! Great job
X2! Lets float the thing!
Ray
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Got a new addition to the engine installed
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Anyone got any ideas to mount the alternator? The one im using is a new/reman 3 wire alt. I dont have the sliding bracket that was originaly with the motor plates :banghead: The pivot tab on the alt does NOT reach the hole on in the engine plate. This is where I need it to go
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Here's one:
http://hi-techperformance.com/HPParts.HTM (http://hi-techperformance.com/HPParts.HTM)
Two:
http://www.pawengineparts.com/shoppingcart/ShowItem.cfm?itemid=8624&catid=274 (http://www.pawengineparts.com/shoppingcart/ShowItem.cfm?itemid=8624&catid=274)
Three:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BBC-CHEVY-CHROME-ALUMINUM-ALTERNATOR-BRACKET-KIT-6408_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4ced234149QQitemZ330396025161QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BBC-CHEVY-CHROME-ALUMINUM-ALTERNATOR-BRACKET-KIT-6408_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4ced234149QQitemZ330396025161QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
Four:
http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=833 (http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=833)
More:
http://rexmar.com/page305.html (http://rexmar.com/page305.html) Part #130-1074
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Here's one:
http://hi-techperformance.com/HPParts.HTM (http://hi-techperformance.com/HPParts.HTM)
What holds the bottom and sets the tension?
Two:
http://www.pawengineparts.com/shoppingcart/ShowItem.cfm?itemid=8624&catid=274 (http://www.pawengineparts.com/shoppingcart/ShowItem.cfm?itemid=8624&catid=274)
The curve is to tight for the alternator.
Three:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BBC-CHEVY-CHROME-ALUMINUM-ALTERNATOR-BRACKET-KIT-6408_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4ced234149QQitemZ330396025161QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BBC-CHEVY-CHROME-ALUMINUM-ALTERNATOR-BRACKET-KIT-6408_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem4ced234149QQitemZ330396025161QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)
This might work...
Four:
http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=833 (http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=833)
Looks cheesy
More:
http://rexmar.com/page305.html (http://rexmar.com/page305.html) Part #130-1074
Didnt want to spend $100+ on mounting, Thats almost double the cost of the alt
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The one from Rex is less than $30, or you can hit Pick A Part and grab one of a van or truck there, a little paint and you're golden.
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The one from Rex is less than $30, or you can hit Pick A Part and grab one of a van or truck there, a little paint and you're golden.
gotcha, I thought you meant the black one which is $98, The Alt was only $45!
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YAY! Twin carbs! Now a scoop from Nick.................
I ain't much help on alt brackets on Chebbies tho. Mine look custom made. I'll post pics in the morning, (Boats cover is half full of water and I think I'm in for a Glasscutter ordeal on this one tomorrow, saw an empty beer can floating in it when I peeked under the cover this morning!) but they resemble Ford SCJ low mounts. (Had this same issue with Moo, amazing how something that should be simple perplexes ya).
Mounting it low like mine is, I dunno if I'da used a rebuilt one. Just thinking out loud.
Ray
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I dunno if I'da used a rebuilt one. Just thinking out loud.
2 words............Lifetime warranty! ;D
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Havent taken a lot of pictures lately but have been making progress when the weather and work has permitted. Slowly making progress on all the "little" items.
Its coming together! ;D
Now a scoop from Nick.................
Well, Im getting a scoop from Nick but its not Aluminum. Thanks again Nick.
I ain't much help on alt brackets on Chebbies tho. Mine look custom made. I'll post pics in the morning
Quit playing with Bessy and take some pics! ;)
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Well, Im getting a scoop from Nick but its not Aluminum. Thanks again Nick.
No thank you!
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Got some new toys....
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Holley 660's, Actually paid less then I was planning on! There are some silver linings to this economy!
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YAY!!!! Great score on those!
Take advantage on the economy where you can, I'll be curious to see how they perform on that lil 427! (Lil my ass, that motors got more going for it than 80% of the 502's out there!)
Welcome to the multi-carb club!
Ray
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Got some new toys....
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Holley 660's, Actually paid less then I was planning on! There are some silver linings to this economy!
:)
Carbs should work out great, are you going to mount them inline are sideways BTW good progress :thumbup:
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Carbs should work out great, are you going to mount them inline are sideways BTW good progress :thumbup:
They will be mounted inline. Makes it nice because I wont have the added expense of all the linkage kits.
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They will be mounted inline. Makes it nice because I wont have the added expense of all the linkage kits.
I have the center linkage for that setup if you need it.also have some metering plates drilled out so you can run jets in the secondary,
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I have the center linkage for that setup if you need it.
Send me a picture of it.
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Send me a picture of it.
Here you go.not running this setup any more so if you need the linkage its yours.
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Anyone got any ideas to mount the alternator? The one im using is a new/reman 3 wire alt. I dont have the sliding bracket that was originaly with the motor plates :banghead: The pivot tab on the alt does NOT reach the hole on in the engine plate. This is where I need it to go
Dont know if this will help or not , but its how i did mine. Tom will hook you up with the adjuster if needed.
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Boats looking great bro ;)
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Hey steve, found that picture on PB the other day and sent it to Tom. Couldnt believe the price.
You need to come around more often.
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Found the original Stewart Warner Tach to match the rest of my set. Have to love Ebay.
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Damn, Tach didnt survive shipping :mad:
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Got Something new from FedEx today. Carbs should be here Monday.
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Interior is complete torn apart and ready to be used as a Template. :)
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Looks good on ur motor! :thumbup:
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SCHWING!!!
Your Place Diverter is installed weird... :screwy:
I think I still have that tach, I actually forgot you wanted one....I will take a look see tomorrow....Bummer when they don't survive the ride. :thumbdown:
GT
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SCHWING!!!
Your Place Diverter is installed weird... :screwy:
I think I still have that tach, I actually forgot you wanted one....I will take a look see tomorrow....Bummer when they don't survive the ride. :thumbdown:
GT
Thought it wasn't in the right place, good lookin out GT :D
Let me know on the tach, I was bummed when I opened the box.
Looks good on ur motor! :thumbup:
Thanks nick. Wife didn't like it when I showed it to her. When I put it on, she said it looks better then she thought it would.
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Somebody's been doing some polishing! Looks great! Oh, and fount that other dizzy, I'll send you a phone pic in a minute....
Ray
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Scoops looks really good nice setup you have. :thumbup:
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Scoops looks really good nice setup you have. :thumbup:
Got the linkage, thanks again! :thumbup:
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Some progress today, finally!
Got most of the old pieces apart for templates
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Got new pieces cut out
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And started putting it all together. Heres the front bench.
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Hopefully more tomorrow :)
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Lookin good! When ya paintin it and getting it to the water?
Ray
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Making progress :thumbup:
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Not sure on the paint, although I have lined up a paint booth when I am ready.
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Just My .02, but I think you need to go with the "Sanger Stripe" scheme in whatever color. We already know it's gonna be a runner. Would be cool with the underlying flake Terry has on his tho too!
Ray
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Just My .02, but I think you need to go with the "Sanger Stripe" scheme in whatever color. We already know it's gonna be a runner. Would be cool with the underlying flake Terry has on his tho too!
Ray
Will be very similar to the original pattern. Just a color change.
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After chasing down some gremlins in the electrical, found where someone had spliced into the ground going to the dash in two different places and also ran a extra wire in half the harness that goes no where :screwy:
Spent the day replacing the ground from Dash to Engine, running a new power wire for the Hydraulic Diverter and replacing the 30 year old wire sheeting.
Will get the dash wired tomorrow :)
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Any updates?
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Any updates?
Just little stuff here and there
Interior has been redone using the original as a template. Need to take it down to get foamed and covered.
Rewired the whole boat and engine harness.
Installed all the cables and helm (Need a new steering wheel).
Been getting a lot of odds and ends finished that had been put off like Cable Seals, Steering connectors, Alternator mount
I do have an issue with steering I was meaning to talk to you or Tom about but its getting there!
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Recent updates:
Plumbing is complete
Carbs, linkage and throttle cable is installed
For/Rev cable is in
Guages and dash wiring is finished
Engine is @ 12 degrees before TDC (ready to be started and timing set)
Distributors in and pointing at #1
Loader is in and thru-bolted
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Little bit more progess...
The distributor and cap didnt match so that got corrected, also wanted a cap that held the wires down.
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ITS ALIVE!!!
Just a little fuel poured into the carbs, ignore the wiring... Just needed to hear it start!
2011 02 24 16 59 06 807 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_vGbg3YG14#ws)
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Way to go Jeremy :thumbup: :thumbup: Good feeling huh :beer: :beer: :beer:
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Way to go Jeremy :thumbup: :thumbup: Good feeling huh :beer: :beer: :beer:
I was excited when it started right up. Most of all I was relieved. The engine was pulled from a running boat and was stored for a while before I bought it so for it to start right up, I couldnt be happier. Its also a great relief that the pieces that were added or that just sat for a while all work... Dist, Ignition, Coil, fuel pump, guages, sending units, carbs, etc.
There was no reason to buy the other pieces or do any other work until I knew that the engine and all of those items were good to go!
Now I need to finish the wiring, need the fuel lines to the carb, make a alum panel for the ignition and time it.
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Ray