eff it when you run outta gas flip the switch
Did have this thought tho, some insight how my lil brain works, or doesn't, as the case may be. I always thought these things sucked from both tanks to keep somewhat of a weight balance. If you run one tank down to say, 1/4 or less then do you have to have the fat guy in the back move to the other side of the boat to keep it from flipping over? Might be even worse if the fat guy is the driver! :screwy:
Ray
Any one know why 2 BBF UNilite dizzy's have different size gears? I figure one or the other will fit, once I clean up the Comp 9000, but can anyone explain this?Maybe came off a 351 Cleveland same dizzy different gear?
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Ray
...I'm used to seeing the smaller one...
no the smaller gear...once again im thinking either one would probably work...why would a bbf gear not work anywhere from a 351 cleveland to 429/460 are interchangeable...i beleive the fe blocks are different, but if it came out of a 460 why wouldnt it work on another...unless there is some "special cam" out there
Was questioned why I felt this necessary. Can tell you this. The kids are important to me. That, and me being the inventive person I am, this didn't meet the approval of anyone who saw it. (damn, shoulda been easy)
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Speaking of which, anyone have a receiver for one of these things? Seems the original was jacked!
Ray
Quite alright Joe, we didn't take her out anyway. Looked like rain, was cold, and just didn't feel like it. Did get the Hyfire 6AL and new Coil in though. I hope this thing runs ok at Mead! I'm a lil concerned..........
Ray
Too bad there isnt a lake in Norco. Would blend right in ;D Sorry Ray...had to say it.Well there is Lake Norconian but it is small and "off limits".
Boat with choke = whatThanks Steve! Removed the choke, kinda, and now starts easier and idles like a champ at 800 rpm! :banghead: Why didn't I think of that?
Looks good.....
In the future, try a wing not on the top of the air cleaner.
Well, yeah, that woulda been easy, were it not for the fact that the scoop and flame arrestor need to go on TOGETHER at the SAME TIME. And a wingnut would never clear between the top of the flame arrestor and the bottom of the inside top of the scoop.
This is how this thing was modified, I guess. No forethought as to assembling it easy. Going to fix that before it's next rebirth. But no way to tighten the nuts behind the carb if you remove the air cleaner base from the scoop! :banghead: Thought of , and tried, that, ;D
But it's on and secure, I happy! ;D
Ray
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You have to excuse Jeremy , he dont have a scoop like that to put on his boat....................Or a boat to put a scoop on :D
Just razzin ya ;D
Keep it up there funny guy and I will come down there and take your boat out of your driveway and take it to mead this weekend! Im sure all of us together could get it finished!
Alright. Been awhile now detoxing from the trip!
The Lake Mead test worked out well, given some near major catastrophes, we got back, boat ran well, considering the carb was untouched and nearly new, and we never did use Crewcheifs timing light on it. Now I'm getting her ready for a run in the morning at Saguaro with my uncle, a real Holley guy, to see if we can get the timiong down, and just to get some more run time on it. Everything looks good, all evidence of the Mead Milkshake is gone (Changed the oil again after we got home, lord at $125 a case this Joe Gibbs stuff is getting EXPENSIVE, cost more than any single part I put on the thing so far, but worth it in the end). Retightened the oil pan, where I beleive the water came from, from nearly flooding the thing to the bottom of the lake, cleaned out the bilge (and the beer cans). Tomorrow afternoon gonna pull the corks on the block and start the install of this
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The 750 is the twin to the one on the boat now that I ran at Mead. I figure get my uncle loose on that one, then switch them and do the same for the second, should get me close to running them together. At least in theory.... More likely is retuning over and over again to get them right. 2 Vac secondary 750's on this thing is WAY over carbing the engine from the standard formula, but given what peformance I saw at Mead, I think it will be just about right on THIS engine. Besides, It's what I have in the garage.
Finish that, Maybe an electric fuel pump system and adding in the oil cooler/remote filter dealio, and get the engine cover upholstered by my overworked and overbooked contact, I think this boat is as far as I want to take it right now. Will follow up with pics on them as they happen. Then it's onto the Yellow Submarine. I promise, more pics of every aspect of THAT build, which my PLAN is to be much milder than this thing turned out to be. (What a surprise THAT was to see this thing come out of the gate like that, need to find out what's in this pump!) Then again, any boat painted like this one had BETTER run or go home and graze.
I owe a ton of thanks to EVERYONE on this site for making this happen. You all contributed, be it little or a lot, but some names like Crewcheif, Tom at JBP, Brad, Omar, 2Sav, Skip, Chromey, Joe (Cowboy), Forked up, and Nordi come to mind, and I know I'm missing a lot of you. Don't take it personally.
As this thread closes, with maybe a few more posts from me and some others, I'm proud of the result, and I hope it serves to help out anyone else working on or building one of these things! What a great hobby!
Ray
PS Still haven't had any name airbrushed on, but common comments seem to suggest simply "Mooooo", even as clever as all the suggestions were.
what did you remove? the electric assembly on the side or the choke plate or both?
well geez ray! wheres a pic of the finished product!? you gotta give us that one at least ;D
Well, the tunnel's going on Tuesday, if I planned my week right. Also lined up a guy to permanently name the boat. Any last minute suggestions? So far I'm tossed between, "That Damn Cow Boat", "Udder Nonsense" (Udder Mayhem is growing on me), and just plain "Mooooo". There's also "A Mooooving Experience", "Moo-Haul", I'm worrying myself more over this stuff than anything else on the boat.
Anyone find themselves in or near the PHX area and need this sort of thing done, I can hook you up. The guy works for me sooo, I know where to find him. Does FANTASTIC work, all freehand. He makes all of our signs for the store now (Not that he likes it, but....)
Ray
How did you nearly sink the boat?
Joe
Hey 2Sav are ya talkin about the blue thing with the dizzy at the right end ;D It's called a chevy KILLER ;D ;D
Too funny Steve ;D ;D you knew i had to jump on that one ;D
Ray , lookin real good bro ;)
But i cant figure out what that blue thing is in the back ???
;D
Divine Bovine
is a company that make some damn fine beef jerky locally. It just might be a winner... whadda ya think?
You need a carb reverse kit, or does that one carb already have one?
......could just be a left hand carburetor. Did you get it overseas?
I don't think you can go to the single feed bowls (would give clearance needed) with those bodies.
The only thing I have seen that works is mounting sideways :banghead:
You could try to fabricate a dual cable system (one from the front and one from the rear) :screwy:
Good luck ;D
As long as you do most of your testing south of Parker we'll be fine ;DTee hee, you're safe ;D for now.........
Hey Ray, thought of another name " Udder Estimated". Thats what i'm talking about.
The vacuum secondaries will work, I'm just saying with my motor they wouldn't open up all the way,the motor wasn't making any vacuum do to the cam.
You Lost me, U in the right thread boost? You feeling ok? Voices? a rash? Unexplained Hickeys or anything?:screwy:What do i know, running the intake I have right now it makes 15 psi at the carbs I ran the tunnel ram vacuum secondaries It was like 7psi no leaks,boat ran great until about 3200 rpms fell on its face do to no vacuum I was told do to the tunnel ram and cam setup wasn't making enough vacuum to open them up.So that was what happen to me so good luck and never mined me and the shit i say must have mad cow disease ;D
If this is the right thread, then I'm the one that is confused. :screwy: If the secondaries don't open up all the way, it's because there's too much carb(s) for my motor, or a vacuum leak, I would guess. The switching of the bowls is not possible because the accelerator pump is only on 1 bowl, not both, so swapping them is not possible, though a great Idea! I don't expect much vacuum due to my cam as well, until at or near WOT and 4000 or so RPM, then there should be plenty!
Ray
Will the vacuum secondaries work, I'm just saying with my motor they wouldn't open up all the way,the motor wasn't making any vacuum do to the cam.
I'm not kidding, ask the ole lady, that thing would frost up and have condensation running off it.
Hey Ray at least you have your dizzy at the right end LOL ;D
I think that pan is to keep hot oil off the manifold, my last boat had a tunnel ram and it would frost up at 108* outside!
oh lol wow. I never heard of that happening on an engine before. So its basicially like low side high side and the pressure differential makes it frost up? Do low rise manifolds do it or just tunnels?
Shoulda kept my mouth shut, coulda had some fun w/ Ray
Shoulda kept my mouth shut, coulda had some fun w/ Ray
Hey Ray, what kind of intake manifold did you have on there before this swap? And might you be interested in selling it?
That is the F-ing funniest thing I have ever seen on a boat ROFLMAOPMP ;D
Thanks Ray, you just fixed my Friday... ;)
GT
Hey Ray,where were you guys at? We would cruise around for awhile then we would throw the anchor out at the end of the lake opposite of the launch ramp. We were looking for you guys. I saw one loud jet boat, I think it was white. Had the headers sticking out the back.That woulda been me. ;D Didn't see another white Jet boat let alone any other with headers setting out the back, all day, lol. And yeah, you'da heard it before you saw it for sure. Was a little nervous when the Deputy sherrif came down from the lil shack above the ramp to watch me launch the thing. Hopefully he was just a fan.
Hhmmm, I got an old flatty I gotta get rid of......
Did it go MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!?
It'll be fun running with you guys, my boat is no were near 600HP Ray :banghead: Do you plan on racing that weekend?
[/quot te]Thats funny see you guys on the water hope i can keep up with you ray ;D
If that gullwing don't do some ass kicken you got some explaining to do!I'm just trying to call him out. I and orthers would like to see that boat run he's saying there is still some left in it. Come on Ray flat foot that boat!
What did it cost to get those freaking numbers?!?!?!?!?!?
Ray said $25 but I think he was giving "Favors" to the 65 year old chick behind the counter! ;)
I don't wanna talk about that part.......I have to go to my happy place when those memories surface...... ;DRay you need to wear a helmet :sly: (rivertard).
Seriously, though, it went down like this. I hadda transfer Moo and the Sewer Pickle, they were out of date, and figured I might as well do the rest of 'em. So I went with a folder full of titles, regs, etc and transferred 5 boats. One with no title or nothing. After all that (A grand total of about 15-20 minutes, really), I'm looking through the Reg #'s. Pickles and the Saguaro's were the same, both native Arizona boats, when I got to Moo's, I laughed and said "No freaking way"........Girl behind the counter asked "what?" so I showed her......after a few seconds she was blushing and said something like "OMG, I'm sorry, do you want me to change this?" I was like "Oh HELL NO!, I could come back there and kiss you, you don't understand the boat this is for!"........
Ray
Ray you need to wear a helmet :sly: (rivertard).
You mean all the time, now? I was just getting used to the one in bed..... ;)O K you win :screwy:(rivertard).
Ray
Ray you need to wear a helmet :sly: (rivertard).
He won't need a helmet this trip as long as Rivertard promises to leave his cow at home. You are gonna leave her at home aren't ya Mike?Well maybe.YOU NEVER KNOW, O Dumas walkers send me home.(rivertard).
Well maybe.YOU NEVER KNOW, O Dumas walkers send me home.(rivertard).
Methinks we were BOTH sent home that night, lol! Not even sure they wanted my money settiling up the bill! :screwy:did you pay for that good time,Good man,Thats why I like you raymon,you drink budlight.O and CLASSCUTTER I OWE YOU BIG TIME, BUT NOT WITH THE COW.thats skipps bitch,Beers on me.(rivertard).
Ray
Damn you Ray I cant believe you sold Moo. I always thought the next logical owner should be me >:D Cant believe you wont have her in BR. :banghead:
Ray what you going to be running?