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The Chaz

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #125 on: February 09, 2008, 04:33:28 PM »
I fired it up on the trailer started perfect, adjusted the timing a little at idle, all seemed good.

Went about 1/2 way across the the main part of the lake punched it a little and was feeling good.  Great response, seemed to be making good power.

Got around the 1st bend and noticed a lot of white smoke coming from the drivers side.  Hmm did I spill something on the logs or heads?  Better shut her down and inspect...

Shut down and climbed in back, suddenly there is a loud pop and water is GUSHING in.


The exhaust hose may not have been tightened up to the riser, or the riser just over heated from lack of water, anyways the hose melted away from the riser and was flooding my boat. 

Now I try to restart to get to shore.  Nope, another electrical issue and the post melted off in my effort to get it to start.

So, since my wife and son are in the boat with me I jump in the F'in freezing water and start swimming the boat towards shore.  I almost froze before I climbed back in the boat and just used my hands to get to shore.


Now, family is safe I inspect the hose and am able to get it back on enough that it could be called a small trickle.  I swap batteries from the one for the stereo, it turns over strong.  Now that the bildge pump is not falling behind,  I am no longer sinking :o

I load the family in the boat and push it into deep water, fire it up and race back to the dock.

Wow,  what a day!

Now to go find out what caused the problem and order some new hose and and a flap for the exhaust which melted also.


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Luckie Stiff

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #126 on: February 09, 2008, 04:41:54 PM »
I have a set of Mickey Thompson finned valve covers that will match your air cleaner, you can match paint the lows in the fins and you're in like flynn, $150.
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"Don't you realize that there are already enough people in the world to hate without you putting so much effort into giving me another?"

The Chaz

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #127 on: February 09, 2008, 05:22:20 PM »
I am interested, send a pic please
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #128 on: February 09, 2008, 05:27:02 PM »
I found the problem...

My thermostat housing has an almost stripped out outlet so I put some extra pipe tape and a lot of silicone to make sure it didnt leak this time.

Too much silicone, completely sealed the water outlet to that side.

Now if I seal one end of my log and blow real hard in the other and a very small amount of air seeps thu does that mean the the pop I heard was the water jacket cracking?  If so would this very small amount of leakage cause problems?  If so anyone have some TT headers or OT headers they want to sell me?
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #129 on: February 09, 2008, 06:59:41 PM »
I got some glenwood logs and OT pipes for ya! You want pics of them too?
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #130 on: February 09, 2008, 07:25:11 PM »
Yes please ^-^
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The Chaz

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #131 on: February 27, 2008, 04:18:55 PM »
Thanks for the covers O0  Took some work getting all the old paint off, but I think they definitely add to the bling factor ;D

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #132 on: February 27, 2008, 09:18:28 PM »
they look pretty damn good there cowboy!
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #133 on: February 28, 2008, 07:14:18 AM »
Looks good Charles. Where'd the spagetti go?
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The Chaz

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #134 on: February 28, 2008, 08:10:57 AM »
Looks good Charles. Where'd the spagetti go?

 :sly: ???  Spaghetti?   ??? :sly:
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #135 on: February 28, 2008, 08:15:49 AM »
:sly: ???  Spaghetti?   ??? :sly:

 ;D  Your boat's old wiring.  :D
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The Chaz

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #136 on: March 10, 2008, 09:36:16 PM »
Lol, yeah.  Just get it in the water and running was my 1st priority.  Now I am trying to make it look good and go faster >:D

Speaking of which, I took it out Sunday and it really seemed like it was porpoising a lot over 55MPH  Would stiffening up the floor cause that?  Is there something I can to correct it like rideplate or a cav plate?  Hopefully it was just the rough water, but it really seemed like a rough ride compared to last year... :banghead:
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #137 on: March 11, 2008, 07:30:00 AM »
... Speaking of which, I took it out Sunday and it really seemed like it was porpoising a lot over 55MPH  Would stiffening up the floor cause that?  Is there something I can to correct it like rideplate or a cav plate?  Hopefully it was just the rough water, but it really seemed like a rough ride compared to last year... :banghead:

Maybe the hull's bottom shape moved when the old floor was removed/replaced?  ???
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #138 on: March 11, 2008, 07:33:31 AM »
Maybe the hull's bottom shape moved when the old floor was removed/replaced?  ???
bingo, when i had my stringers re-done in my liberty he would NOT do it on the trailer because of this exact reason
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #139 on: March 11, 2008, 08:00:27 AM »
bingo, when i had my stringers re-done in my liberty he would NOT do it on the trailer because of this exact reason

How did they hold the boat up off the trailer?  or what kind of dolly did they use?
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #140 on: March 11, 2008, 08:04:22 AM »
Lol, yeah.  Just get it in the water and running was my 1st priority.  Now I am trying to make it look good and go faster >:D

Speaking of which, I took it out Sunday and it really seemed like it was porpoising a lot over 55MPH  Would stiffening up the floor cause that?  Is there something I can to correct it like rideplate or a cav plate?  Hopefully it was just the rough water, but it really seemed like a rough ride compared to last year... :banghead:

are you running a droop? have you ever put a straight edge on the bottom?

just curious to see whats going on under the boat.

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #141 on: March 11, 2008, 08:13:31 AM »
How did they hold the boat up off the trailer?  or what kind of dolly did they use?
they supported it from both sides of the transom and under the bow, the reason was to let the hull relax. it was not on a dolly
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #142 on: March 11, 2008, 09:59:26 PM »
No droop, no idea on lines of bottom, but it is pretty beat up.  I filled some of the gouges with epoxy.

Today I adjusted my jet-o-vator to increase the downward angle and see how that works. (At the cost of my already minimal roost :mad:) I thought that maybe the old floor being so rotten was allowing the hull to flex like a shock absorber on the waves ???  It is possible that I bowed it out by installing the braces from the bottom to the inside of the deck :-\ 
Again will cav plates/or a ride plate or any hardware correct this?
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #143 on: March 12, 2008, 07:04:05 AM »
I think a ride plate is to help the boat get out of the water and ride less "wet", same for a cav plate but cav plate's aren't usually on jet boats. You can use a cav plate to help stop porpouising (sp?) but it's going to cost you a lot in terms of speed and gas mileage. IMO
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NO REGRET$ ... Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics / no matter how good you do you're still retarded!!!!!

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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #144 on: March 13, 2008, 12:33:00 AM »
Speaking of which, I took it out Sunday and it really seemed like it was porpoising a lot over 55MPH  Would stiffening up the floor cause that?  Is there something I can to correct it like rideplate or a cav plate?  Hopefully it was just the rough water, but it really seemed like a rough ride compared to last year... :banghead:
  Im no expert on this, but heres something ealce to consider.  You removed alot of weight from under the floor (the water soaked foam and wet wood), so you might just need to do some adjustments to your jet-o-vator like you said.  The boat is lighter now and could be trying to carry the bow higher than before.  After removeing the foam (also soaked with water) from mine I can see a difference in how the boat sits in the water and noticed that it seems to ride higher on the water now at speed (judging by looking at the spray from the side of the boat) .   BTW , Mine has always had a problem with porpoising and it seems to have gotten worse after the wet foam came out   :banghead:.

 Just an idea  ???
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Re: What did I do?
« Reply #145 on: March 13, 2008, 07:17:45 AM »
That crossed my mind also.  I was thinking about how smooth the big wakeboard boats ride and thought that maybe it was just riding higher and combined with the rough water... well thanks for giving me hope :)
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