Also in Utah I think newer boats have slightly stricter(sp?) db limit than the older ones, like 2 or 3 db.lol The one time I was hastled I point blanked the leo and asked him what is the limit? is it on the water at idle or on the trailer? His response was I dunno? They told me mufflers=no ticket, no mufflers = ticket. Hey osbo you headin out today? Is it windy up there too?