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« Reply #50 on: August 27, 2014, 05:41:07 PM »
Yeah he swears by it. Definitely noticeable power on the inclines.




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« Reply #51 on: August 27, 2014, 05:45:49 PM »
Yes I agree. Someone does need an education on the subject 


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Wait a minute..... Hold the focking phone....

You are trying to educate me with a YouTube video that has a 1 1/2 second blurb by some dipshit mechanic in Saskatchewan?

OMG...... Seriously?
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« Reply #52 on: August 27, 2014, 06:00:49 PM »


Wait a minute..... Hold the focking phone....

You are trying to educate me with a YouTube video that has a 1 1/2 second blurb by some dipshit mechanic in Saskatchewan?

OMG...... Seriously?
Damn this is getting almost as bad as the "496 or 540" topic lol....


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« Reply #53 on: August 27, 2014, 06:07:36 PM »
And honestly if we all cared about the environment so bad why do we all have jet boats that get 1-2 mpg with blowers and tunnel rams that can go 100+. Let's all not start acting like AQMD. We are all having fun, some people in different ways than others.


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« Reply #54 on: August 27, 2014, 06:13:41 PM »
Think we should all just calm down a min and look at the "what a piece of ass" thread justin happily brought back to the top.


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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2014, 06:14:01 PM »
I see your in Thousand Oaks. If your gonna get a notice like that Westlake is where it would happen.


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« Reply #56 on: August 27, 2014, 06:17:33 PM »
I work for the west coasts largest mechanical contractor doing HVAC, controls and refrigeration.

I have been doing this work for nearly 20 years.

Before that I was an automotive service technician and boat mechanic, I worked on both commercial and pleasure water craft. I spent nearly 15 years on that trade before doing what I do now.

Let me just say, that some of the comments on here are so uneducated and environmentally irresponsible, it totally makes me think of the condition of the river after the tube float...

Your mother does not follow you around picking up after your dumb ass. What you spew into the environment is EVERYBODY's business. You ever heard of the off road campaign of "Tread Lightly"? do you know why that came about? It was because of stupid irresponsible douche bag punks going out onto public lands and destroying natural habitats. Why in the hell do you think the BLM and other Nazi government agencies were able to come in and take over? Because these morons gave them the tools necessary to do so... Nothing else. They had evidence of total disregard of the environment and were able to convince congress, the president and the general public that they had to step in... Basically had to be your mother...


Why do you think diesel trucks are now being SMOG inspected? Because of what people are doing by "Rolling Coal" on people and being a complete punk dick.... You gave them every tool they needed to establish this precedent. You mother had to come in and take control....

Why do you think most inland lakes, with very few exceptions now have a decibel restriction for noise? Again, because super loud isn't loud enough and we have to be dry stack headers and bus the marinas and water front housing... Again, needed mother to come clean up your act.

Why do you think it is that Caterpillar completely quit building DOT diesels?  Because it was too expensive and difficult to build a reliable diesel service engine to meet the new DOT standards...

So you think you're making it so the standards will be reduced by creating a carbon trail? WTF.




FWIW, to anyone reading this thinking they know everything because some fuctard in Saskatchewan says it is less pollution than a gasoline engine exhaust, he is totally FOS. Diesel exhaust carries 200X the emissions that a car can create. Even if that car ran like total crap.


Just so you know... You know that purpleish/brown nasty smoke looking shit you see in the sky in metropolitan areas? That my friends is NOX (oxides of nitrogen), diesel exhaust produces more than 25% of that NOX... Still think it's "environmentally Harmless"?

You also think that because a large portion of the black smoke "falls to the ground" that it does not get into the water supply and contaminate everything that lives in, drinks and swims in that water?

Think again.


Get a clue.

I am done with the idiotic thread.

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« Reply #57 on: August 27, 2014, 06:20:18 PM »
And honestly if we all cared about the environment so bad why do we all have jet boats that get 1-2 mpg with blowers and tunnel rams that can go 100+. Let's all not start acting like AQMD. We are all having fun, some people in different ways than others.


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Let me tell you why it's different...


I put roughly six time the diesel in my truck as I do pump gas or race fuel in my boats. To stretch it even further, my boat probably runs cleaner than a coal rolling POS... To stretch it the last two miles, not every diesel truck on the road is towing a jet boat....


It is all about cause and effect.


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« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2014, 06:32:22 PM »
We care because "rolling coal" has lead to more and more diesel emission controls.

The EPA/CARB could care less how many more mpg's you get blowing black smoke. They love to throw videos of rolling coal on the liberal media as a way to control diesel vehicles. There's a reason there aren't more diesel cars and SUVs in the US and that's because of State emissions. Environmental extremist will always use black smoke as a reason to restrict and ban diesel vehicles.

My diesel will puff smoke like all diesels during a pull under load, but it's dumb to go out of the way to make excess smoke. Plus excess smoke is a waste of fuel, not an increase.


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« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2014, 06:35:06 PM »
I'm sure a lot of people have been a victim of rolling coal and yes I agree that it's used in humor way to much but it's not the end of the world. Believe it or not the diesel cloud is really harmless to the environment


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« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2014, 06:37:51 PM »
Never mind I'm out, on a honest note I guess I am one of those pricks that puff a lil cloud here and there. For future notice please keep away for excessive smoke.


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« Reply #61 on: August 27, 2014, 06:54:50 PM »
True.  Nothing better than riding motorcycles especially on dirt tight single track or hill climbs ( SoCal guys probly gotta Google those terms cuz they got hills not mountains and dunes).  Anyway but cause of A-holes the Gov controls hella places we ride where and when.  Green sticker Red sticker. 
Fucking helmet law I wear a full face on my Dyna doesnt mean I wanna wear it cuz some politician passed a law saying I Have to.

Diesels now have DEF and hella smog shit to lower NOX

I take my boat to some lakes and get dirty looks cuz they think Im gonna cause a rucus on the lake shit even around camp.  And the sound limits as stated

This thread is going nowhere cause some people dont and wont understand. 

I think views and opinions are great but I hate to see time wasted with no change in outcome

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« Reply #62 on: August 27, 2014, 06:58:20 PM »
This thread carried on further than I thought it would....
I too agree with many of you... about why rolling coal, isn't a good idea. Someone asked if diesel owner's would pay 75 to have a smoke switch..... nope!  Serves me No purpose. And I too prefer to fly under the radar.  Whether smoke is harmless or not....it Looks bad and I for one  don't want to aid the environmentalists in restricting our vehicles or dirt/water toys. 
Now....where's the "what a piece of a$$" thread....
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« Reply #63 on: August 27, 2014, 08:25:00 PM »
My 6.7 makes no smoke and plenty if power


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« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2014, 09:59:18 PM »
All I can say is wow.... 

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« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2014, 10:13:34 PM »

I work for the west coasts largest mechanical contractor doing HVAC, controls and refrigeration.

I have been doing this work for nearly 20 years.

Before that I was an automotive service technician and boat mechanic, I worked on both commercial and pleasure water craft. I spent nearly 15 years on that trade before doing what I do now.

Let me just say, that some of the comments on here are so uneducated and environmentally responsible, it totally makes me think of the condition of the river after the tube float...

Your mother does not follow you around picking up after your dumb ass. What you spew into the environment is EVERYBODY's business. You ever heard of the off road campaign of "Tread Lightly"? do you know why that came about? It was because of stupid irresponsible douche bag punks going out onto public lands and destroying natural habitats. Why in the hell do you think the BLM and other Nazi government agencies were able to come in and take over? Because these morons gave them the tools necessary to do so... Nothing else. They had evidence of total disregard of the environment and were able to convince congress, the president and the general public that they had to step in... Basically had to be your mother...


Why do you think diesel trucks are now being SMOG inspected? Because of what people are doing by "Rolling Coal" on people and being a complete punk dick.... You gave them every tool they needed to establish this precedent. You mother had to come in and take control....

Why do you think most inland lakes, with very few exceptions now have a decibel restriction for noise? Again, because super loud isn't loud enough and we have to be dry stack headers and bus the marinas and water front housing... Again, needed mother to come clean up your act.

Why do you think it is that Caterpillar completely quit building DOT diesels?  Because it was too expensive and difficult to build a reliable diesel service engine to meet the new DOT standards...

So you think you're making it so the standards will be reduced by creating a carbon trail? WTF.




FWIW, to anyone reading this thinking they know everything because some fuctard in Saskatchewan says it is less pollution than a gasoline engine exhaust, he is totally FOS. Diesel exhaust carries 200X the emissions that a car can create. Even if that car ran like total crap.


Just so you know... You know that purpleish/brown nasty smoke looking shit you see in the sky in metropolitan areas? That my friends is NOX (oxides of nitrogen), diesel exhaust produces more than 25% of that NOX... Still think it's "environmentally Harmless"?

You also think that because a large portion of the black smoke "falls to the ground" that it does not get into the water supply and contaminate everything that lives in, drinks and swims in that water?

Think again.


Get a clue.

I am done with the idiotic thread.

GT

And I suppose your word over the guy in the video is correct right ? That you know more then a diesel mechanic right ? Or anyone for that matter. You think that because you can't actually see the emissions coming from a gas burning engine that it's 10x better then a diesel ? To be honest man you sound like one of those know it all guys. Where no one else is right but you.

My point was that no one actually knew that op was out rolling coal just because he got a letter in the mail about it. Like I stated before I've gotten one and I've maybe rolled coal twice in the 2 years I've had my truck. The bottom line is that diesels produce suet to make power and improve fuel economy. AS I STATED ABOVE I DONT THINK ITS COOL TO ROLL COAL.

You wanted me to back up what I said about it being as harmless as a gas engine and I showed a video of proof whether you believe it or not. What proof do you have besides your thoughts ?

I'm done with this topic. People on here are so quick to judge before they have the whole story

Kwood sorry to jack your thread and make a big argument. Enjoy your duramax before the tree huggers put them off the road for good
 


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« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2014, 10:28:19 PM »


You wanted me to back up what I said about it being as harmless as a gas engine and I showed a video of proof whether you believe it or not. What proof do you have besides your thoughts ?

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« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2014, 10:45:54 PM »

[quote author=Havasukona455 link=topic=21711.msg248930#msg248930 date=1409202814


You wanted me to back up what I said about it being as harmless as a gas engine and I showed a video of proof whether you believe it or not. What proof do you have besides your thoughts ?

Does this means dick pills really work, I seen them in a video in the internet?
 


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« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2014, 11:17:15 PM »
And I suppose your word over the guy in the video is correct right ? That you know more then a diesel mechanic right ? Or anyone for that matter. You think that because you can't actually see the emissions coming from a gas burning engine that it's 10x better then a diesel ? To be honest man you sound like one of those know it all guys. Where no one else is right but you.

My point was that no one actually knew that op was out rolling coal just because he got a letter in the mail about it. Like I stated before I've gotten one and I've maybe rolled coal twice in the 2 years I've had my truck. The bottom line is that diesels produce suet to make power and improve fuel economy. AS I STATED ABOVE I DONT THINK ITS COOL TO ROLL COAL.

You wanted me to back up what I said about it being as harmless as a gas engine and I showed a video of proof whether you believe it or not. What proof do you have besides your thoughts ?

I'm done with this topic. People on here are so quick to judge before they have the whole story

Kwood sorry to jack your thread and make a big argument. Enjoy your duramax before the tree huggers put them off the road for good
 


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OK, the gloves are now off.....

It actually takes a lot for another persons ignorance to piss me off, but you managed it.

First, Kwood DID say in as many words that he had been rolling coal.... Your reading comprehension is piss poor at best...

Second. In the video that YOU shared, which is not what I would call a Nobel prize winning piece, said how harmful to health and environment diesel emissions are. Apparently you had selective deafness when that part aired... The dipshit mechanic was just down playing it based on absolutely no factual information at all.... But you bought it... What is he going to do? say " yeah what we're doing is actually very detrimental to the environment and can cause severe adverse health effects... C'mon man... Just because there is no law saying you can't do it, does not mean that it should be done... They aren't in California, or even the U.S.

It is like comparing filthy dirty coal fired power plants in China to ours and saying "hey, they do it"... Ever seen their air quality index? You can get cancer by going outside for an hour during the day.

Third, I do combustion analysis for a living. So yeah, I probably know quite a bit more than you about the subject.

Fourth, the proof is in about every air quality management study that has been done over the last 40 years. Not to mention the National Cancer Institute and the American Lung Association and the World Health Organization.

Mining companies spend buttloads of money trying to prevent miners from breathing spent diesel exhaust, this is not even speaking directly about thick black soot.... Diesel exhaust in general... So your saying the high carbon content shit you can't even see through is completely environmentally negative...


Good luck with all that...

Doesn't matter to me if you are a coal rolling fan or not. It was your annoyingly obtuse attitude toward the whole thing. In other words, a mentality that gives you the illusion that it is socially acceptable. I assure you, it is not.

Wake up gentlemen. We only have this one smelly dirt clod... Once the fat lady sings, it's over.

Oh yeah, and it was 200X better.... not 10X. Again, reading comprehension.  :screwy:

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« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2014, 11:22:08 PM »
[quote author=Havasukona455 link=topic=21711.msg248930#msg248930 date=1409202814


You wanted me to back up what I said about it being as harmless as a gas engine and I showed a video of proof whether you believe it or not. What proof do you have besides your thoughts ?

Does this means dick pills really work, I seen them in a video in the internet?
 


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« Reply #70 on: August 28, 2014, 07:19:35 AM »


OK, the gloves are now off.....

It actually takes a lot for another persons ignorance to piss me off, but you managed it.

First, Kwood DID say in as many words that he had been rolling coal.... Your reading comprehension is piss poor at best...

Second. In the video that YOU shared, which is not what I would call a Nobel prize winning piece, said how harmful to health and environment diesel emissions are. Apparently you had selective deafness when that part aired... The dipshit mechanic was just down playing it based on absolutely no factual information at all.... But you bought it... What is he going to do? say " yeah what we're doing is actually very detrimental to the environment and can cause severe adverse health effects... C'mon man... Just because there is no law saying you can't do it, does not mean that it should be done... They aren't in California, or even the U.S.

It is like comparing filthy dirty coal fired power plants in China to ours and saying "hey, they do it"... Ever seen their air quality index? You can get cancer by going outside for an hour during the day.

Third, I do combustion analysis for a living. So yeah, I probably know quite a bit more than you about the subject.

Fourth, the proof is in about every air quality management study that has been done over the last 40 years. Not to mention the National Cancer Institute and the American Lung Association and the World Health Organization.

Mining companies spend buttloads of money trying to prevent miners from breathing spent diesel exhaust, this is not even speaking directly about thick black soot.... Diesel exhaust in general... So your saying the high carbon content shit you can't even see through is completely environmentally negative...


Good luck with all that...

Doesn't matter to me if you are a coal rolling fan or not. It was your annoyingly obtuse attitude toward the whole thing. In other words, a mentality that gives you the illusion that it is socially acceptable. I assure you, it is not.

Wake up gentlemen. We only have this one smelly dirt clod... Once the fat lady sings, it's over.

Oh yeah, and it was 200X better.... not 10X. Again, reading comprehension.  :screwy:

GT

Again you have missed the point I was trying to make with your ignorance and know it all attitude. I'm not gonna stoop to your level and make myself look like an ass. Good day sir


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« Reply #71 on: August 28, 2014, 08:25:31 AM »
Again you have missed the point I was trying to make with your ignorance and know it all attitude. I'm not gonna stoop to your level and make myself look like an ass. Good day sir


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Cool... let's just call it my ignorance then. ..

Seems to work for you.  I would roll with it too.

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« Reply #72 on: August 28, 2014, 09:41:12 AM »
not to spark this riot up again but i dont no where i said i drive a freight train, but ill live with it cause i took jarvis and socalpsd advise and traded straight up for this hog, but now i got a problem... can i borrow someone diesel to tow my boat to the lake this weekend
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« Reply #73 on: August 28, 2014, 10:58:17 AM »
Ha.....now....if you're trying to make light of this thread... Cool....kinda late :screwy:  but OK.
If your instigating.... not cool :thumbdown:
Be clear with your intentions, if you please.  There's tons of smart people here....of whom you may need advice, suggestions..... dare I say it....help, from.  If your poking fun....we're far less inclined to lend a hand.
Just being honest and up front. Take it for what you will. I'm not interested in adding fuel to this thread. 
Think about your actions before acting.

And what the hell car is that? Looks like it's off of minority report
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« Reply #74 on: August 28, 2014, 11:34:25 AM »
Ha.....now....if you're trying to make light of this thread... Cool....kinda late :screwy:  but OK.
If your instigating.... not cool :thumbdown:
Be clear with your intentions, if you please.  There's tons of smart people here....of whom you may need advice, suggestions..... dare I say it....help, from.  If your poking fun....we're far less inclined to lend a hand.
Just being honest and up front. Take it for what you will. I'm not interested in adding fuel to this thread. 
Think about your actions before acting.

And what the hell car is that? Looks like it's off of minority report


just trying to clear the air i am really not the D*** that i feel that i got placed as by posting this, i dont think i stand alone on that but theres people that stand on the other side of the line i guess, i would never do the things like black smoke people wait for a 4 of july prade that guy deserves what he got but i think is a generation thing diesel trucks are the new hot rods, black smoke is the nature of the beast at the amount of the drivers want and i like my truck to have a little more.

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