can you run 1050 carb on 4150 style intake?

« **on:** June 28, 2009, 08:07:11 PM »

I am having problems locating a 950 carb but have found a few 1050's. However have been told that you can't run a 1050cfm/4500 on a 4150 style intake which would commonly accept a 950cfm can you run the 1050/4500 carb on 4150 style intake? Does anyone make an adapter?

« **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2009, 08:53:21 PM »

Quote from: Donjuan on June 28, 2009, 08:07:11 PM

I am having problems locating a 950 carb but have found a few 1050's. However have been told that you can't run a 1050cfm/4500 on a 4150 style intake which would commonly accept a 950cfm can you run the 1050/4500 carb on 4150 style intake? Does anyone make an adapter?

You ca buy an adapter 4500 to 4150 and yes they make them ran one on the Nurple.

« **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2009, 09:10:21 PM »

Double D-

You can run an adapter to run a 4150 carb on a 4500 style manifold, you can run a 4500 style carb adapted down to a 4150 intake, but you're totally defeating the purpose of the 4500 style carb. Bottom line is, either find and buy a 950 or get another intake.

Skip

PS- going out early Friday morning, you up for it?

« **Reply #3 on:** June 29, 2009, 09:33:46 AM »

I'd love to go out this friday but I either am going to have to work (all weekend) or will be up in shaver.

« **Reply #4 on:** June 29, 2009, 04:02:03 PM »

Quote from: Donjuan on June 28, 2009, 08:07:11 PM

I am having problems locating a 950 carb but have found a few 1050's. However have been told that you can't run a 1050cfm/4500 on a 4150 style intake which would commonly accept a 950cfm can you run the 1050/4500 carb on 4150 style intake? Does anyone make an adapter?

If you decide to buy an intake, I have a really nice Wieand Team G,, polished, new in the box, $350. Ask Luckie Stiff about them, he got one from me.

« **Reply #5 on:** June 29, 2009, 06:45:54 PM »

Damnit DJ. Don't you know you're not supposed to be working on the days I want to go to the lake? The way my heap runs I always need the assurance of a tow boat!

Shaver would be sweet

, Belridge, not so much

.

Oh yeah, if you end up buying another intake, get in touch with Barry, he'll hook you up, that's where mine came from

« **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2009, 08:29:31 PM »

Running my new 1050 dominator on my Blower shop 4150 single carb top with a 4500 to 4150 3" adaptor with no apparent ill effects

adaptors from Summit (cheap)

« **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2009, 08:37:23 PM »

Quote from: jet boat performance on June 29, 2009, 08:29:31 PM

Running my new 1050 dominator on my Blower shop 4150 single carb top with a 4500 to 4150 3" adaptor with no apparent ill effects
adaptors from Summit (cheap)

That adapter would be hardly noticeable if you'd polish it

Where's the quality control?

« **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2009, 08:39:51 PM »

Quote from: jet boat performance on June 29, 2009, 08:29:31 PM

Running my new 1050 dominator on my Blower shop 4150 single carb top with a 4500 to 4150 3" adaptor with no apparent ill effects
adaptors from Summit (cheap)

You don't think that adapter is defeating the purpose of the 1050 CFM carb? Really? Explain this theory to me Tommy, I want to learn.

Skip

« **Reply #9 on:** June 29, 2009, 09:26:08 PM »

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on June 29, 2009, 08:39:51 PM

Quote from: jet boat performance on June 29, 2009, 08:29:31 PM
Running my new 1050 dominator on my Blower shop 4150 single carb top with a 4500 to 4150 3" adaptor with no apparent ill effects
adaptors from Summit (cheap)

You don't think that adapter is defeating the purpose of the 1050 CFM carb? Really? Explain this theory to me Tommy, I want to learn.

Skip

Skip you got me ! , I got no theory to support or explain ! the difference between the 4500 and the 4150 ends the adaptor are negligable (opening vs opening ), might have lost a few HP ?? dont know cant prove or disapprove , just know the big boat runs like a "scalded dog" some day when I have the time and ambition and inclination I'll order up a differerant Blower top and see if theres any noticable difference . alls I do know is the 1000 HP series vs the 1050 Dominator is night and day . Could it run better with a slightly larger opening at the base ? maybe but then this is my family boat and 70 plus for a "Battle star" is pretty respectable no ? , Tommy

« **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2009, 10:17:26 AM »

What should my fuel psi be at idle, 3k, and 5k?

« **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2009, 03:47:19 PM »

a 1250 dominator on a 4150 victor manifold, works good, world maks a in cast manifold adapted down from dom to reg style ports,

« **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2009, 05:11:48 PM »

Only dyno tested this theory once, on a small block Mopar. 4150 intake, went from an 850 to a 1050 and gained 15hp, for 585hp... Don't know exactly the "hows and whys" but possibly it just needed more air and fuel $:-\$

« **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2009, 05:51:34 PM »

Tommy-

I guess it's one of those things that nobody can explain, it just works. See I told you I wanted to learn something and I did, thanks

« **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2009, 08:26:13 PM »

In theory it shouldnt hurt skip.
The way I see it , it is as simple as measuring carb bores versus the opening at the bottom of the carb adapter and seeing how far off , if at all, they are form one another.
Not to mention, if you lose anything, you might gain it back from the increase in air speed velocity.

Just my brain tickin....

-beerjet-

« **Reply #15 on:** June 30, 2009, 08:28:18 PM »

Quote from: beerjet on June 30, 2009, 08:26:13 PM

you might gain it back from the increase in air speed velocity.

Just my brain tickin....

-beerjet-

After thinking about it, I agree with the increased air speed, but it still baffles me that it won't hurt performance

« **Reply #16 on:** June 30, 2009, 08:31:21 PM »

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on June 30, 2009, 08:28:18 PM

After thinking about it, I agree with the increased air speed, but it still baffles me that it won't hurt performance

Well , I'm gonna make a phone call tomorrow about the diffrence in the dom bores vs 4150 plate opening. I'm gonna guess they are really close .

-beerjet-

« **Reply #17 on:** June 30, 2009, 09:26:32 PM »

Slightly "off topic" but "not so much" despite all the Ph*kin* nuttyness at JBP heres Joshes new Austrailian (SWTG Dominator ) manifold and AED "Dommy" for the 408 Windor stroker from ...today Tom (new Rewarder "step headers too)

« **Reply #18 on:** June 30, 2009, 10:14:36 PM »

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on June 30, 2009, 08:28:18 PM

After thinking about it, I agree with the increased air speed, but it still baffles me that it won't hurt performance

Look in the new Engine Masters Magazine, perfect test to read up on.

On a BBC they tested...
4150 intake, with 4150 carb vs.
4150 Intake, with a 4500 adapted carb vs.
4500 intake, with a 4150 carb vs.
4500 intake, with 4500 carb

« **Reply #19 on:** June 30, 2009, 10:21:41 PM »

Quote from: pw_Tony on June 30, 2009, 10:14:36 PM

Look in the new Engine Masters Magazine, perfect test to read up on.

On a BBC they tested...
4150 intake, with 4150 carb vs.
4150 Intake, with a 4500 adapted carb vs.
4500 intake, with a 4150 carb vs.
4500 intake, with 4500 carb

Dyin' to see the "link" common T the suspense is too much ?? please post it if you have it Tom

« **Reply #20 on:** June 30, 2009, 10:33:25 PM »

Quote from: jet boat performance on June 30, 2009, 10:21:41 PM

Dyin' to see the "link" common T the suspense is too much ?? please post it if you have it Tom

Don't got the article on me $:-\$ But all of the results were within 15hp of each other, I remember that

« **Reply #21 on:** July 07, 2009, 08:38:24 PM »

http://fuelcurvewest.net/home
Dj I was at Dave's shop today He's has 1050 cfm carbs in a 4150 bolt pattern, give him a call.

« **Reply #22 on:** July 07, 2009, 09:13:47 PM »

Quote from: beerjet on June 30, 2009, 08:31:21 PM

Well , I'm gonna make a phone call tomorrow about the diffrence in the dom bores vs 4150 plate opening. I'm gonna guess they are really close .

-beerjet-

Define Close...

« **Reply #23 on:** July 07, 2009, 09:17:40 PM »

LOL Dj just might have to save some money and swap out the the intake and carb, what is he running a 502 BBC and some alum heads?

« **Reply #24 on:** July 07, 2009, 09:22:04 PM »

Quote from: boost on July 07, 2009, 09:17:40 PM

LOL Dj just might have to save some money and swap out the the intake and carb, what is he running a 502 BBC and some alum heads?

Yep 502HP 502, Aluminum heads, rumpity cam, needs a bigger carb and intake

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