So here goes Guys : We moved our shop/store about three Months back to a different Industrial complex as most everyone knows . These Places have a kind of "life of thier own" to set the stage ... So today I'm strolling thru the parking lot to my mail box , when I see this rather large mangy ass dog coming towards me Although I'm a dog owner (big Golden ones) and I like dogs I have great respect for unknown dogs and try to be very carefull around them .... so I continue on to the box keeping an eye on him , all of a sudden the SOB dog struts up and bites me on the right arm thru my jacket ! I say WTF and pull my arms in close to my body Then he bites me on the back of a calf and my left hand (bruised but didn't break the skin ) by now I'm a little freaked & intimidated so I yell out to the shop where the mutt "belongs" . The Dog and shop owner comes out and takes the dog away to chain him up then comes back doesn't appologize and says "next time he does that just smack him" (the dog is around 90 lbs) I say I was looking for a board or ?? to do just that ! he says "oh I don't want you hitting my dog with a board" I'm thinkin "whats wrong with this picture ?? I'm supposed to wonder when and if this dog will bite me again (or one of my family or customers, huge liability issue) And heres this dumb ass making me feel bad that his dog (not supposed to be there anyhow) might be in danger from me ? this guy should be begging forgivness right now I say next time I'll call animal control he says "Oh so thats how you roll huh" Then to make matters worse he says "This is "XYZ industrial Park were a big family and you need to conform" (or something like that) ensenuating that we weren't part of the click yet? Here the point #1Business's and Dogs just don't mix IMO #2 Had this been me I would have been asking this guy if he was ok and appologizing up the gazzoo #3 When I called the Buildingsuper he says "Oh yeah that dog is a little rambunctious .........Any thought Folks ? Tom
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guess its ok for peoples dogs to run up and just bite people now a days...screw him i would call animal control and have the dog "quarantened" spelling i know...its one thing if you were trespassing, but its another for a dog to come up and just bite you...i know this sounds bad but i learned a long time ago that is being attacked by dog a good solid kick in the throat will drop it dead, and i will live by that...im not saying i would go out and do that to any dog, but your right what if it was a customer or a kid or something rather...i would handle the situation before it gets worse...even though it is a catch 22 because now you are pissing of other tennants, but maybe your other tennants dont like the dog either, and are too scared to say anything...in all reality i dont think a situation like this should be taken lightly

Good advice , it is however that "fine diplomatic line" we walk in a situation like this I told him if the dog came near me again I'd call animal control That really pissed him off

Also consider having your lawyer (I hear  everyone in California has 1 )

Thanks and yes unfortunately we have one on retainer Tom

Hey Tom do a doggy drive by or figure out how to make it look like your cat  and after the dog have the dude done

Just kidding that does suck  its a shame some poeple just dont care about others  somthing should be done  if my dog was to bite someone i would take care of it myself on the spot   you do need to do somthing to protect your family and customers hope your ok bud    now you know you just had a birthday not to long ago and at your age healing may take a little longer so hang in there grampa lol

Bad situation there Tom. Dunna what to tell you. I normally carry around here, and I, personally, may well have escalated things a bit more with a .45 ACP round to its head out of fear, had I been attacked like that. Dunno for sure, never happened to me. You guys and gals in 'Fornica don't have that right, unfortunately. (Confrontation with the owner woulda been much more 'awkward' in that case).

I too love dogs, but theres a line between loving dogs and what a lot of owners allow their animals to get away with.

I'd certainly get it looked at and send the bills to his address, and file a police report about it. That's just me. You'd feel guilty as hell to find out later, if you ignore it, and have some kid get mauled by the beast. Just my opinion.

Ray

Just sent him letter , email and fax (cc to JBP corp atty, PD and Animal control and the Building Super) Says simply appologize and get the mutt out or face consequences It wouldn't have been bad if he wasn't an arrogant ass hole (BTW its all on the surveilance Vid) Thanks for the support Tom

   right move IMHO...Download the vid and keep that too....Don't let up until the steam (from your ears) stops.

GT

Just sent him letter , email and fax (cc to JBP corp atty, PD and Animal control and the Building Super) Says simply appologize and get the mutt out or face consequences It wouldn't have been bad if he wasn't an arrogant ass hole (BTW its all on the surveilance Vid) Thanks for the support Tom

Tom, even if he wasnt an arrogant ass hole, that dog needs to be under control not roaming around as it pleases !!!  I'm sure this isnt the first time its done something like this (and wont be the last).  We all know I'm a dog lover, but there is NO WAY I would let my dog roam around loose like that.  Its irresponsible and asking for trouble.  You need to not be worried about the owners attitude, or if it would bite one of your customers, but think about what would have happened if it was one of your grand kids out there playing !!!  A 90lb aggressive dog should NEVER be roaming around as it pleases !!!!!!  If you ever see that dog loose again call animal control immediately !!

A friend of mine whoes a retired cop now had to drop a dog in his driveway. The thing wouldnt let them out of the house. Maybe you should get a big ole gnarly pitbull/mastif with aids and let it intimidate "Goldie" and his owners?

I would have the dog quarantined for rabies check.  It'll piss off the owner and the dog.  I would also find out who insures his buisiness and let them in on the incident.  And considering that it is Xmas time, I imagine all the stores can get you a good deal on a nice Louisville Slugger.  Keep it with you every time you go out to check the mail.

Sage advice (on the bat   ) This morning I got a breif letter of appology from this guy , what I want is reasonable assurance that the mutt will stay home or on a chain or ?? , It wasn't so much for me about the incident as it is IMO unproffesional to have a Dog or Dogs roaming around unattended in a complex such as this I admitt its kind of cool and laid back but more and more at least around here people have thier dogs, large and small everywhere , Home depot , Longs even the Super Market You just flat need to be responsible and if not Dont own one

ps the other nite the lady ahead of me in line at Vons had a medium Jack Russel in her cart , after she paid left I ask the Checker if non service dogs were allowed , he says what should I have done thrown here out ?

ps the other nite the lady ahead of me in line at Vons had a medium Jack Russel in her cart , after she paid left I ask the Checker if non service dogs were allowed , he says what should I have done thrown here out ?

I do it EVERY day Tom. We used to tolerate it only because our customer base is primarily from local retirement communities. And you KNOW how grumpy old people can get about their lil Poodles and Pomeranians! Have to. Had an incident one evening with a customer bringing in an English Mastif that Terry mentioned (Thing was the size of a Shetland Pony, I swear), and just the sight of it scared this little woman at the paint counter and her two very small children into hysterics and tears. The kids were shaking, they were so scared. gave them all candy and sodas to calm them all down after I got rid of the "dog" (More like a Sasquatch).

Dog was nice and friendly, but that incident makes me be an a$$hole to every little old lady in Chandler (or so my reputation seems to be). I have to do it.

I get called everything but a White Boy, and told "I'll never shop HD again", etc, etc. Got written up once by the DSM for replying to this old phucker  "Can I have that in writing........."  Guess I'm not allowed to say that,  or supposed to admit I DID say it,

But wheres the line? Either all or none when it comes to that. There is NO grey area. I beleive there are Health Code violations for allowing non-essential animals in food service areas (Such as restaurants) Would that not ALSO apply to most grocery stores? Just thinking out loud.......

Ray

Tom, you need Wade Blasingame 

http://www.kontraband.com/videos/4559/Dog-Lawyer/

Glad it worked out to your satisfaction Tom, and that you werent harmed, other than your nerves. Cool that the dumbass woke up to the fact that he couldve been in some serious doo doo financially, excuse the pun