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Re: Hallet hull with trailer $200
« Reply #50 on: May 19, 2007, 03:34:22 PM »
well I look at it this way. I can go buy a $4000-$5000 boat turnkey. It will still not be "perfect" and I am buying the word of the seller on the motor, pump, parts condition, worth,and whoever built it actually know what they were doing. Like I said before THIS IS NOT A MONEY THING it is a fun project with a great outcome if done with patience and the right combination of parts. I think Beerjet was commenting that he does not even know what his engine has as far as internals. (sorry if I quoted the wrong person). My Tahiti cost me $600 with full stringers and a brand new pump with reciepts. I am up to $6000 with fiberglass, and engine so far but..... it is all brand new and I either did it myself or am having a professinal do things in front of me. I have the reciepts,the build sheets etc. and I do not plan to sell for a very long time. So the project is a beautiful turn key reliable boat that I know the complete history of I feel better about traveling and having people and friends enjoy the boat if I am far from home etc. My interoir will be brand new,engine brand new and pump. If I get 5-10 years of family enjoyment with a boat that I built myself the extra money for having a fresh ride built my way does not matter. I am sure that there are better conditon of hulls than that Hallet but it is a classic hallet that people would appreciate and like alot if completed correctly. I guess I look long term instead of immediate financial aspect when I see a boat like that.
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Re: Hallet hull with trailer $200
« Reply #51 on: May 19, 2007, 05:30:30 PM »
well I look at it this way. I can go buy a $4000-$5000 boat turnkey. It will still not be "perfect" and I am buying the word of the seller on the motor, pump, parts condition, worth,and whoever built it actually know what they were doing. Like I said before THIS IS NOT A MONEY THING it is a fun project with a great outcome if done with patience and the right combination of parts. I think Beerjet was commenting that he does not even know what his engine has as far as internals. (sorry if I quoted the wrong person). My Tahiti cost me $600 with full stringers and a brand new pump with reciepts. I am up to $6000 with fiberglass, and engine so far but..... it is all brand new and I either did it myself or am having a professinal do things in front of me. I have the reciepts,the build sheets etc. and I do not plan to sell for a very long time. So the project is a beautiful turn key reliable boat that I know the complete history of I feel better about traveling and having people and friends enjoy the boat if I am far from home etc. My interoir will be brand new,engine brand new and pump. If I get 5-10 years of family enjoyment with a boat that I built myself the extra money for having a fresh ride built my way does not matter. I am sure that there are better conditon of hulls than that Hallet but it is a classic hallet that people would appreciate and like alot if completed correctly. I guess I look long term instead of immediate financial aspect when I see a boat like that.

The 4- 5 thousand range in jet boats typically has nothing to offer but crap. By the time you are done with a 4 thousand dollar gem you will have 9 grand in it. The best way to buy a boat and not loose your ass is to spend the money first. Buy from reputable people and perferably buy a boat that you know the history on.
A boat like that Hallet will soak the money out of you more so than if you bought one that's already done. I'm talking a quality one in the 10,000 plus range.
The good thing about buying a beater boat (such as the Hallet) is that you can spend the money at your own pace. This seams to be easier for some people rather than saving for it. Sad thing is that you have to spend a few summers on the beach until your project is done  :-\
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Re: Hallet hull with trailer $200
« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2007, 07:24:50 PM »
My income along with my G/F's income is about $3900, our mortgage is $3200 a month, we've got 4 kids, and all the bills everybody else has. At any given time I might "put in" ? 6 hours of work to make $100, as a last resort which I do often. That Hallett to me is a last resort, I'm willing to "waste" the time and effort of making that $200 profit if there is nothing else going on (income wise). Right now, I've got a few other things going on to make up the difference on the income so at this particular time the Hallet isn't worth it to me, but in two weeks - you never know (should be: I never know).

I laughed when I read old rigger's post of his "limited experience". That was funny sh!t.

I think bluenun's opinion, in my opinion, is a healthy opinion (that's a lot of opinion's) as far as building a jet boat that you're planning on keeping a long time. But if you're not quite sure if you're going to like your own jet boat or how long you're going to keep it, or if you're going to have to sell it to get cash, I think the $4K - $5K boat might be the ticket to figuring it out. keep that same $4K - $5K boat for too long and like Quickjet said the next thing you know you've got $9K in that same boat and still could only sell it for $4K - $5K.

If that Hallet sits aroung long enough, I'm sure sooner or later I'll have to get my hands on it.   :-\
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Re: Hallet hull with trailer $200
« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2007, 01:42:25 PM »
The 4- 5 thousand range in jet boats typically has nothing to offer but crap. By the time you are done with a 4 thousand dollar gem you will have 9 grand in it. The best way to buy a boat and not loose your ass is to spend the money first. Buy from reputable people and perferably buy a boat that you know the history on.
A boat like that Hallet will soak the money out of you more so than if you bought one that's already done. I'm talking a quality one in the 10,000 plus range.
The good thing about buying a beater boat (such as the Hallet) is that you can spend the money at your own pace. This seams to be easier for some people rather than saving for it. Sad thing is that you have to spend a few summers on the beach until your project is done  :-\
That $4,000 dollar range is mixed with crap and jewels... problem is, few will agree on which is which. If I sold the Stevens for $4,000, one person would value it one way for what it IS, another for it's condition, and another still for the sum total of it's parts. Is it crap? Not to me, and probably not to someone that likes Stevens'. Someone looking for a hull with greater speed potential, or a modern engine might think that $4K is crazy talk. 
I paid $3800 for the Circus boat in 2002, with a junk pump, engine and interior. Was it crap? Not to me, as I wanted an open bow jet and factored the repair costs into it. Here again, some would think I was insane spending that kind of money for an open bow, but it had a greater value to me. Of course, NOW that it has thousands more in it, it's value to me is less monetary, and probably more emotional.
The bottom line for ME (and only me) is that the VALUE I have for my boats will undoubtedly will be different than someone else's.
Hell after thinking about.......
Anyone want to buy an Advantage open bow or a Stevens flat bottom jet?????   ;D
  • Boat #1: 1986 Commander Sunstreaker 21 open bow
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Re: Hallet hull with trailer $200
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2007, 05:05:55 PM »
Flat bottom jet? What year, got any pics? My first boat was a Stevens flatty w/ a 425 Buick
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Re: Hallet hull with trailer $200
« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2007, 05:48:21 PM »
Flat bottom jet? What year, got any pics? My first boat was a Stevens flatty w/ a 425 Buick
It's a 1965 STevens flatbottom jet with a Ford 390 FE and Berk JA. Here's a thread on HDF with a few pics
  • Boat #1: 1986 Commander Sunstreaker 21 open bow
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