SoCal Jet Boats
Discussion => The No Wake Zone => Topic started by: PelicanKing on June 15, 2014, 07:08:15 AM
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How you doing boys!
So I've got my first jet boat now, a 96 Ultra LX I believe but I've got a bug for a winter project (when that time comes). I'm leaning towards a closed bow cruiser like the Sprectra 20's. Something with a little more freeboard than the 18 and 19 footers.
I found this Hallett on craigslist and I love the look of the hull and they did a great job on the paint scheme. What's the story on this particular hull design and are there very many of them out there? I'd love to find a project boat and dump some time and money into it this winter but I'd like to start with a reputable hull. How do these ride in chop? Also what can you expect speed wise from a mildly built pump gas motor?
As far as looks are concerned, this thing checks all the boxes for me.
Thanks for any help, here's the link to the ad but I grabbed the pics for after the ad expires.
http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/boa/4521102107.html (http://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/boa/4521102107.html)
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18.5 mini cruiser.
Great boats.
Very solid boats.
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I had a 77 and it was great! Also just got done working on a friends 78 yesterday. These are in my opinion bullet proof. Need to get the foam out of the bow and make sure it has aluminum tanks. Otherwise its the best of all worlds.
Get ahold of Hallett Dave. He can give you alot of info on these mini cruisers.
BTW nice boat! If that is paint, they used the original lines.
GARY.
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Man that is sexy. I like the lowered trailer steps.
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That thing is beautiful! Ive got a hallett bubble deck. They are awesome riding boats and built like tanks. Mines 43 years old and the original owner is a family friend and he said the boat still looks like the day he bought it
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great lookin boat! only thing id change is the TT headers. either back to logs or center rise. they'll be hotter than hell.
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That is a really nice boat. Just looking through the pics, from what I can see, the rigging is REALLY nice.
The ad says it has a roller cam but not specifically mechanical or hydraulic. If mechanical, just make sure the valve lash is kept in check and that you don’t spend a lot of time at idle to help the roller lifters live. Cant tell from the pics, but if the heads are iron, it will help hold the lash better.
You will find that the glass work on the Halletts is top notch. Everything is built very heavy duty, very clean and finished. Hallett built very nice tooling to construct their boats and are some of the most symmetrical that I have measured.
I have a ’91 21’ that when new and with much less of an engine, did 65 MPH according to the factory pitot tube speedo. In my opinion, Halletts are one of the nicest riding hulls I have been in. My friend had a bubble deck around the same year as that one. Both handled the chop very well even though his had a much lower freeboard. The ’77 that you are looking at appears to have more freeboard than mine. I have no reservations saying that that boat would give you confidence in whatever water you choose to navigate.
I really look forward to seeing more of that boat. Post up pics when/if you get it
Cheers,
Joe
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Yeah guys, that boat is beautiful and I'm tempted to sale the Ultra and go pick that thing up but I'd really like to do one myself. That hull is speaking to me though and I'm on the hunt now to pick one up. Ideally a solid hull that doesn't run. I'd like to redo the interior to my liking, have a motor and pump built for it, redo the trailer and have someone dial in the gel coat or paint.
Thanks for all the info so far, I'm liking what I'm hearing about it and I think one of these would strike the right balance for me.
Let me know if anyone knows of one that may be for sale.
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I called on a couple of boats today, both the one I posted at the top and this one that's been referenced in other threads on here...http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/boa/4514533958.html (http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/boa/4514533958.html)
The red and tan one above was just built for a seventy something year old man and his wife is making him sale it. It's all original gel coat that's been clear coated over. The interior is all original. It sounds like it was a ski race boat at one time as he said it used to have a twin turbo in it. I really like the look of that boat but I'm leaning towards a project. We'll just have to see how long it sits up there and I might start talking money with him.
The other one is owned by some guy in the bay area. He's asking 4 grand but if I got that one it would be with the intention of doing a full rebuild and I'm thinking it would have to be at least half that, what do you guys think?
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I got some more pics from the guy in the bay area, honestly it's almost unbearable talking to the guy. I was trying to get some more details from him but he kept going on and on about the difference between trailer tires and auto tires. If he was easier to communicate with I'd probably pursue this one but he spends the whole time on the phone trying to convince me that it's turn key instead of answering my questions.
Here's the pics if anyone is interested...
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You would be dollars ahead going with that first one. It will still be a project making it your own. And you will have instant gratification rather than a money pit that takes up space.
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This belongs to my buddy.
And he's not really attached to it.
Turn key....
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Nice! Got anymore details?
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What would you like to know?
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I should probably start by asking if he has a price in mind but what's the story with the motor?
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This belongs to my buddy.
And he's not really attached to it.
Turn key....
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Nice!
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Nice!
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It's actually really nice and only "needs" some minor stuff.
Mainly someone to use it.
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I should probably start by asking if he has a price in mind but what's the story with the motor?
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I'm not sure what he wants.
He just goes back and forth on if he wants to sell it or not.
The 454 Chevy was a fresh motor when we put it in a few years back and I know he hasn't used it a whole bunch.
I freshened up the pump as well.
Berk G bowl, A imp, droop, diverter (that belongs to me)
Minor interior tips and tears.
He bought and installed new Imco aluminum tanks a year or two ago.
All the gauges work to my knowledge.
The gel is in great shape.
Literally just needs a buff
I want to say he has a bimini top for it but not 100% certain.
Trailer is solid with all new hubs and bearings.
He does have the rear jump seats and engine box.
It's a great boat considering it came with a C bowl, and an olds.
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I'll get you a price tomorrow.
The boat is in upland so maybe a little Elsinore joy ride is in order
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Don't dis on the 'C' bowl, just the olds
Dan'l
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Don't dis on the 'C' bowl, just the olds
Dan'l
Well, neither was doing him any favors.
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Ride plate and shoe might help...
Dan'l
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Ride plate and shoe might help...
Dan'l
Maybe....
If I owned it.
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What's the difference between the C bowl and G bowl?
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G bowl is a split bowl, for being able to add a droop, wedges, etc.
C bowl doesn't have a split- but can still have a diverter, rideplate, etc
They are can be swapped.
Dan'l
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G bowl is a split bowl, for being able to add a droop, wedges, etc.
C bowl doesn't have a split- but can still have a diverter, rideplate, etc
They are can be swapped.
Dan'l
Thanks for the explanation, I've been thinking it was something internal every time I saw it come up.
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Don't dis on the 'C' bowl, just the olds
Dan'l
OUCH !
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Alright guys, I'm gonna go ahead and make the drive out to see this thing...
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My question to you guys is what are the main things I should be looking for beyond the obvious. Someone has already mentioned the foam in the bow and whether the fiberglass tanks have been replaced. Are there any other things I should look for that may help me in negotiating?
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Alright guys, I'm gonna go ahead and make the drive out to see this thing...
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My question to you guys is what are the main things I should be looking for beyond the obvious. Someone has already mentioned the foam in the bow and whether the fiberglass tanks have been replaced. Are there any other things I should look for that may help me in negotiating?
The underside.....
Check for obvious damage.
Make sure the seal around the intake isn't broken either.
Soft spots in the floor.
Make sure the bottom is straight.
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I hate spending money...
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Where's the easiest place to launch in Blythe for a test drive?
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Launching at Mac is pretty easy!!! Plus it's only $10. If your by yourself you can walk the boat to the beach and park your vehicle
SRC
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Perfect, thank you!
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I knew I should have put on new tires in Phoenix...
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All just part of the adventure...
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That was relatively painless. $400, 4 new shoes and we're on the road again! Joe's Tires in Blythe, they were fast!
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Did they blowout
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Did they blowout
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The starboard rear disintegrated and the others still looked good but likely weren't far behind. I was about 30 miles outside of Blythe when it happened so I did the old strap up the axle deal and made it into Quartzite before a punk ass state trooper kicked me off the highway. Pulled into Mcdonalds, put her up on some rocks and ran into Blythe with all 4 wheels, back to the boat and wife in under an hour.
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Oh and we still had time to put it on the water...
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Wife liked this picture of herself, ARRRRRRR!
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So, what’s the verdict? By the way, could I trouble you for some pics of the engine? I am particularly interested in the the engine mounting and the bellhousing area that I can’t quite make out in this pic. Thanks, hope you enjoy it.
Beautiful boat.
Cheers,
Joe
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She's a beaut!
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So, what’s the verdict? By the way, could I trouble you for some pics of the engine? I am particularly interested in the the engine mounting and the bellhousing area that I can’t quite make out in this pic. Thanks, hope you enjoy it.
Beautiful boat.
Cheers,
Joe
Honestly you gave me good advice earlier in the thread when you said this boat will give me instant gratification but I'll still be able to enjoy the project. The wife and I are stoked on it and I don't know what fast is but all I know is when I turned my head to look at the roost my sun glasses flew off, good enough for me.....for now anyways.
I'll get you some better pictures tomorrow, we're about 30 miles out of Indio right now (wife's driving) and I've got a job in the morning but will likely head out on Elsinore tomorrow and get some pictures then, or just in the driveway if not.
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She's a beaut!
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Thanks man, she's far from perfect but it strikes a chord with me for some reason. I probably got too emotionally attached and broke a couple of my rules for buying things but it's done now.
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Thanks man, she's far from perfect but it strikes a chord with me for some reason. I probably got too emotionally attached and broke a couple of my rules for buying things but it's done now.
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Rules were meant to be broken!
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Congratulations! I like your choice. Joe gave you good advice, that will make a nice first project boat for you guy's. Quality boat!
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great hulls, they handle great for a small boat, looks like you have a good start
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So, what’s the verdict? By the way, could I trouble you for some pics of the engine? I am particularly interested in the the engine mounting and the bellhousing area that I can’t quite make out in this pic. Thanks, hope you enjoy it.
Beautiful boat.
Cheers,
Joe
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There is some sexy hardware there.
Haven't heard the name Tuff Enuff in a long time as well.
Real nice boat!
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Saw the boat at Elsinore Sunday. Looked great!
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Looks really nice. Would love to go for a ride if you ever have an open seat.
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There is some sexy hardware there.
Haven't heard the name Tuff Enuff in a long time as well.
Real nice boat!
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Thanks man, you were largely responsible for getting me stoked on Halletts. I need to get to one of the SCJB get togethers to meet all you guys.
Saw the boat at Elsinore Sunday. Looked great!
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It was nice meeting you and your family, hopefully we'll see you out some time soon.
Looks really nice. Would love to go for a ride if you ever have an open seat.
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Anytime, let me know when you're going out. I can't believe I just noticed that you've got a Hallett, do you have a thread on yours?
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X2 with cmayer that boat is bitchen motor sounds great looks great and runs bitchen good job Jared awesome pick up
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Sweet boat man! Good come up!
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Anytime, let me know when you're going out. I can't believe I just noticed that you've got a Hallett, do you have a thread on yours?
I grew up with Halletts, they have always been my favorite boats. My late best friend, who originally built my boat for the former owner, also had Halletts with crazy horsepower. I will start a thread on mine soon. Unfortunately mine has had to sit for a minute, so I don’t go out. But if you ever wanted someone to pitch in for BBQ, beer, or gas
Enjoy your new ride. I am stoked for you.
Cheers,
Joe
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I really love how your block and heads are blended and detailed. I can’t get over that bellhousing and how well it blends into the block. Is that an old Powerglide bellhousing or is it a marine bellhousing? Somebody put a lot of love into that build.
Cheers,
Joe
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I really love how your block and heads are blended and detailed. I can’t get over that bellhousing and how well it blends into the block. Is that an old Powerglide bellhousing or is it a marine bellhousing? Somebody put a lot of love into that build.
Cheers,
Joe
So the guy that I bought it from is an old hot rodder and overall a really cool guy. In his garage he had a '40 Ford, '34 Sedan, and he was right in the middle of replacing all the rusted out mess in what I believe was a model T. He's built them all himself. Mind you he's 75 now and after he built the boat he didn't use it, he's all about the project. Anyways he spent a lot of time grinding and smoothing out the motor (not sure if that was done before or after it was built). I spent a few hours with him and I wasn't able to get all the info that I would have liked.
We got along really well but like I said before he read me too well and he's had a lot more practice negotiating than me. I'm still stoked and he was happy that the boat went to someone who appreciated all his work he put into it.
I'm looking forward to finishing the build. I can't wait to rip the interior out and put it back together how it suits me. I'm going to leave the motor open and I think. I want the back seats to face each other but the boat's so wide I think it will end up really comfortable and you'll be able to angle forward or backwards when pulling skiers.
Oh and speaking of skiing, about a year ago I really screwed up cause I gave away a Maharaja from the 70's that would have gone perfectly with this boat. I'm gonna have to find another one...
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Keep the pictures coming, this thread has given me a lot of motivation to get back on mine. In fact, I was just about to start on detailing my block and heads.
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I will for sure, this week I'll be putting new cables in for the steering, reverse bucket and diverter. I'm also going to put in a manual selector switch for the gas tanks, right now there's just a T and they don't seem to be drawing evenly.
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X2 with cmayer that boat is bitchen motor sounds great looks great and runs bitchen good job Jared awesome pick up
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Hey man, I need to try and arrange my schedule to be up at your place to give you a hand next time you're laying down glass. I'm pretty dialed with tools and know how for the wood working aspect of the interior but I've never done any big projects with fiberglass.
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Hey man, I need to try and arrange my schedule to be up at your place to give you a hand next time you're laying down glass. I'm pretty dialed with tools and know how for the wood working aspect of the interior but I've never done any big projects with fiberglass.
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you have my number bud you tell me when
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Hey man, I need to try and arrange my schedule to be up at your place to give you a hand next time you're laying down glass. I'm pretty dialed with tools and know how for the wood working aspect of the interior but I've never done any big projects with fiberglass.
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you have my number bud you tell me when
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Here's a project for someone...
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/boa/4540782591.html
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Shit jared had i known that was you i would have introduced myself on sunday! I was next to ya in the blue and white bahner dOH
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Shit jared had i known that was you i would have introduced myself on sunday! I was next to ya in the blue and white bahner dOH
No way man! Every time I roll into the cove I recognize a bunch of the boats but I haven't met their owners.
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No way man! Every time I roll into the cove I recognize a bunch of the boats but I haven't met their owners.
ya man you were right friggin next to me lol
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ya man you were right friggin next to me lol
That's funny man, hopefully we'll get to meet up soon. After the 4th of July weekend when's your next trip planned?
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That's funny man, hopefully we'll get to meet up soon. After the 4th of July weekend when's your next trip planned?
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no real plans, going to Blythe for the 4th. then after that my buddy is building a swingaway tongue for the trailer so i dont know how long it will be out of commission