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how many people
« on: February 16, 2016, 08:30:34 AM »
so how many people really run a marine carburetor on their float.
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Re: how many people
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2016, 08:34:03 AM »
so how many people really run a marine carburetor on their float.


Between my dad and myself we have four marine carbs and two automotive.

The two automotive carburetors are on the open engine jet boats.

If the engine compartment is closed,  it simply must have ALL of the marine equipment.

JMO

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Re: how many people
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2016, 09:51:43 AM »
NOT
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Re: how many people
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2016, 09:54:04 AM »
C&J Engineering did mine.
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Re: how many people
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2016, 09:56:55 AM »
NOT

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Re: how many people
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2016, 10:12:20 AM »
My gramps has never run a marine carb.  Neither have I. 
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Re: how many people
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2016, 10:47:09 AM »
I echo what GT Jets said. A closed compartment gets as much "marine" as possible.
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Re: how many people
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2016, 10:48:30 AM »
On our ultra we are. Everything else is a C And J deal


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Re: how many people
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2016, 10:52:14 AM »
You can buy the j tubes and install them yourself
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Re: how many people
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2016, 12:08:17 PM »
You can buy the j tubes and install them yourself

Just so you know,  that does make it an approved "marine" carburetor. It just kills the engine in the event of a bowl control issue.

A marine carburetor also has sealed throttle shafts.

Unless it has an "SAE marine" tag on it, is not marine.

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Re: how many people
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2016, 12:09:34 PM »
Yep very true, but j tubes pass the visual 😆
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Re: how many people
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2016, 12:09:36 PM »
My gramps has never run a marine carb.  Neither have I.

I have never accidently fired my .45 caliber Kimber either,  but I still use the safety.

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Re: how many people
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2016, 12:14:19 PM »
Que?

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Just meaning that I don't run a marine carb.
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Re: how many people
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2016, 12:18:59 PM »
I have never accidently fired my .45 caliber Kimber either,  but I still use the safety.

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Lol my 9mm doesn't even have a manual safety.  We do also run open compartments.  It's just the way I was taught he's been running em since the 60s never had any issues even ran em on the race boats. 
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Re: how many people
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2016, 12:22:32 PM »

Lol my 9mm doesn't even have a manual safety.  We do also run open compartments.  It's just the way I was taught he's been running em since the 60s never had any issues even ran em on the race boats.

Like I said.  On an open deal, I think it's fine.

As soon as you go closed compartment,  you simply MUST use the marine equipment.

Simply not worth it.

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Re: how many people
« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2016, 03:04:39 PM »
Please explain the difference.
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Re: how many people
« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2016, 03:06:01 PM »
Please explain the difference.

Between automotive and marine
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Re: how many people
« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2016, 03:13:38 PM »
Please explain the difference.

Between automotive and marine

Are you being serious?

Or a funny man?

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Re: how many people
« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2016, 03:15:19 PM »
Between automotive and marine

The stuff i've looked at. All seem to have spark arrestor screens built in. Like Starters, alternators, distributors are sealed.

IDK what the stuff is with the carb

OH and they have that J number that means its approved. I would assume in the event of a fire, if insurance didnt see the marine approved equipment i would assume they could deny the claim. But i dont know for sure
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Re: how many people
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2016, 03:24:45 PM »
The stuff i've looked at. All seem to have spark arrestor screens built in. Like Starters, alternators, distributors are sealed.

IDK what the stuff is with the carb

OH and they have that J number that means its approved. I would assume in the event of a fire, if insurance didnt see the marine approved equipment i would assume they could deny the claim. But i dont know for sure

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Re: how many people
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2016, 03:30:32 PM »
To be an approved apparatus,  it must, at one point, have gone through testing. I order to have met the criteria set forth by UL, the EPA and the USCG.

The point I was trying to make is that adding the 180° vent tubes does not make it a marine carburetor. Only the UL testing and certification process can do that.

I have worked on USCG passenger vessels (aka party boats) and they take it pretty seriously.

It has a little to do with insurance coverage,  but more to do with the EPA and the manufacturers liability coverage.

We do live in America where it is literally legal to sue anyone. Pretty much for any reason.
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Re: how many people
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2016, 06:28:49 PM »
Not be a troll but if you burn to death in a fire on a boat that's just natural selection


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« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2016, 07:23:12 PM »
GT Jets...what Kimber you got?http://
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Re: how many people
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2016, 07:32:10 PM »
Not be a troll but if you burn to death in a fire on a boat that's just natural selection


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Here's the deal.

And maybe this will help you guys understand why I stress it so often.

About 1996 or '97 I was on a vacation with the family at Lake Shasta.

It's July,  about 115°F and we're waiting on someone to come down from parking the trailer at the dock near the launch ramp.

The dude next to us has his kids, wife and dog in the boat,  he goes to start the engine and kaboom.

The engine compartment cover (doghouse) blows out of the boat in like ten pieces.  The flames roll out of the boat like a breaching whale.

Have to admit, a drop of piss came out. The little girl sitting next to my side of the boat was screaming, her hair caught fire. I threw water on her and the flames quickly went out.

After emptying three fire extinguishers we got the boat out too. The damage was not all that bad.

The cause?

A non marine electric fuel pump without a safety switch and a chrome automotive alternator.

When the Ranger came by, we told them what happened while he filled out a report. He was cool as a cucumber and when asked, he said it happened about a dozen times a year.

I'm not saying anybody died,  but think if it happened 40' forward at the fuel dock. I probably wouldn't be here to tell you about it.

Be mindful that what you do is fine, right up until that one time does happen and innocent bystanders get hurt, or worse,  from your shortcut.

You will have to live with that. Make sure it's worth it is all I'm saying. As for me, I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

I have told this story numerous times and just typing it just now caused goosebumps. It was nearly 20 years ago.


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Re: how many people
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2016, 07:34:51 PM »
GT Jets...what Kimber you got?http://

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