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GoinBrokeBahner

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Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« on: June 26, 2013, 01:22:11 PM »
Well I finally got everything I needed, including boat running right, to pull my kid around behind the boat. On Sunday we started with knee boarding, he got it first try!! Anyhow, I noticed it very hard to get up on plane and while towing him if I tried speeding up to plane out I would spray him quite a bit...😖  I have a 21' closed bow Bahner w/ stock 454, panther housing w/ American Turbine Energizer Kit. Is this how it goes in this style boat and can I add something for improvement?? I've heard of wedges, diverters and pre-loaders but don't really know what does what... I'll include some pics. Thanks!
... The last pic isn't at towing speed obviously but it's an idea of how much spray I have at about 4200 rpm. I'm at about 3000rpm, not planed out and giving him a face full when I go any faster. Oh, it was a 75' rope I used with one length removed... Is that the problem too?
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jyeager

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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 01:59:37 PM »
Nozzle angle is your problem here. A place diverter would help you out a bunch. Jmo
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 02:38:14 PM »
Jy is right, if you want a cheap easy quick fix pick up a 2 degree wedge and kick the nozzle down but a place diverter would be the best bet
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GoinBrokeBahner

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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 02:40:52 PM »
Thanks! I've been wanting a diverter anyway... Now I have the perfect excuse to justify the purchase with the old lady!😉 She'll do anything for her little angel boy!! Haha
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 02:48:16 PM »
Try a full 75' rope, You were using 60'? I use a 100' rope when I ski.
Diverter is good too.

Dan'l
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GoinBrokeBahner

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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 02:53:22 PM »
Try a full 75' rope, You were using 60'? I use a 100' rope when I ski.
Diverter is good too.

Dan'l
I just got a new 75' rope... A friend said to pull one length off of it(maybe 6-8'). Why he said that I don't know. I already plan to put it back on for this weekend. Even at that length with a knee boarder I noticed a lot of rope under water when towing. Wouldn't that be much worse at 100' or does it really matter if it drags?
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 04:12:14 PM »
I just got a new 75' rope... A friend said to pull one length off of it(maybe 6-8'). Why he said that I don't know. I already plan to put it back on for this weekend. Even at that length with a knee boarder I noticed a lot of rope under water when towing. Wouldn't that be much worse at 100' or does it really matter if it drags?

We've always used 50' rope to kneeboard or wakeboard.. Puts boarder on a fatter spot of the wake for more "pop", that's why we do it..
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 04:37:11 PM »
I just got a new 75' rope... A friend said to pull one length off of it(maybe 6-8'). Why he said that I don't know. I already plan to put it back on for this weekend. Even at that length with a knee boarder I noticed a lot of rope under water when towing. Wouldn't that be much worse at 100' or does it really matter if it drags?

I use a 60' rope to pull the kids on the tube.   I run the Diverter down and it makes for a cleaner ride for them .

If u have no Diverter a longer rope is better ( it was for us anyway) for that same reason.... Less 'firehouse' to the face.
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GoinBrokeBahner

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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 04:40:49 PM »
Thanks Chad and Muffbro. I think I'll look for a wedge and longer rope for the boy for now... Diverter in the future.
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 06:01:28 PM »
Thanks Chad and Muffbro. I think I'll look for a wedge and longer rope for the boy for now... Diverter in the future.

Bite the bullet and install a diverter.  The Bahner will plane quicker and with a hydraulic set up you will have infinite control of your ride within the travel limits of the diverter.  You and your son will love the modification.  :)
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2013, 06:18:35 PM »
50-65' when I board behind mine with diverter down the whole time.

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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2013, 06:49:06 PM »
just go faster...  O0
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2013, 07:01:23 PM »
I grew up skiing behind jet boats... If you don't have a diverter it puts the wash right where you're at so a 100' foot rope is almost mandatory until he gets better at skiing learning how to slide right or left....
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2013, 08:07:41 PM »
Here's what you do, get full insurance and a 45, out in the middle of the river 50-60 rounds with the battery disconnected, problem solved. :D


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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2013, 08:23:25 PM »
I grew up skiing behind jet boats... If you don't have a diverter it puts the wash right where you're at so a 100' foot rope is almost mandatory until he gets better at skiing learning how to slide right or left....
Well said.

I ski a lil faster than a wake board, and ya get more roost, especially on a short rope.

Dan'l
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Re: Wake/spray out of pump when towing at low speed...
« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2013, 04:05:02 AM »
Bite the bullet and install a diverter.  The Bahner will plane quicker and with a hydraulic set up you will have infinite control of your ride within the travel limits of the diverter.  You and your son will love the modification.  :)

That's exactly right.... I put a Diverter on my Bahner and the difference is night and day as Dave said.
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