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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1800 on: March 01, 2015, 12:52:32 PM »
I have one, $50 USA made.

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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1801 on: March 01, 2015, 01:09:59 PM »
Welding some bungs in my oil pan for a temp gauge sender and two more 3/8npt bungs for external oil return lines(olds). Ive noticed most people drill and tap the actual head. I was going to just tap the valve cover does anyone see an issue with that?


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1802 on: March 01, 2015, 02:23:12 PM »
Welding some bungs in my oil pan for a temp gauge sender and two more 3/8npt bungs for external oil return lines(olds). Ive noticed most people drill and tap the actual head. I was going to just tap the valve cover does anyone see an issue with that?

It will allow more oil to remain in the rocker area before it starts to flow through the return lines in the valve covers.  IMHO, it is best to put the return lines in at the lowest point to help facilitate efficient flow back to the pan as fast as possible.

I have seen some endurance engines with stand-offs installed in the return holes to intentionally cause the oil level to rise to submerge the valve springs for cooling before flowing through large holes at the top of the stand-offs.  The stand-offs then had small holes drilled in the bottom to allow all of the oil to return to the pan after shutdown.
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1803 on: March 01, 2015, 03:09:53 PM »
Welding some bungs in my oil pan for a temp gauge sender and two more 3/8npt bungs for external oil return lines(olds). Ive noticed most people drill and tap the actual head. I was going to just tap the valve cover does anyone see an issue with that?


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In that Olds article that was written in Hot Boat, Timinator gave the dimensions on where to drill down to the 16th.
I guess tapping the valve cover would work, you'd just have to have a higher level of oil in the v.c. to have the drain work.
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1804 on: March 01, 2015, 03:18:11 PM »

In that Olds article that was written in Hot Boat, Timinator gave the dimensions on where to drill down to the 16th.
I guess tapping the valve cover would work, you'd just have to have a higher level of oil in the v.c. to have the drain work.

And i almost feel like that would be better keeping the valve train submerged in oil. And i just have a weird sketchy feeling drilling holes into my heads haha


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1805 on: March 01, 2015, 03:40:19 PM »
And i almost feel like that would be better keeping the valve train submerged in oil. And i just have a weird sketchy feeling drilling holes into my heads haha

Keep in mind that it will put additional load on your valve stem seals.  Not a huge ordeal on the exhaust side as the exhaust port is mostly pressurized.  However the intake will need good sealing to prevent excessive oil consumption.
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1806 on: March 01, 2015, 05:46:07 PM »

Keep in mind that it will put additional load on your valve stem seals.  Not a huge ordeal on the exhaust side as the exhaust port is mostly pressurized.  However the intake will need good sealing to prevent excessive oil consumption.

Isnt there always quite a bit of oil up there though? Especially in a olds


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1807 on: March 01, 2015, 06:26:02 PM »
Flipped the cruiser today, this was not an easy deal.  Took about 4 hours and tons of adjusting.  Not sure how well it will go back over but we'll cross that bridge when we get there.  Now is time for some bottom work to clean up all the rock bar damage.


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1808 on: March 01, 2015, 06:43:37 PM »
New plugs and wires cleaned my carburetors new air filters . Get ready for the march run 🚤💦🍻


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1809 on: March 01, 2015, 06:49:15 PM »
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1810 on: March 01, 2015, 06:50:36 PM »
Isnt there always quite a bit of oil up there though? Especially in a olds

Can't say I know anything specific to Oldsmobile, I can only share what I have specifically been exposed to.

The other thing I neglected to mention is that I hate oil leaks.  Having the oil level above the gasket sealing surface is an invitation for leaks.

Lastly, I try to consider airflow through the crank case.  Pistons move at different rates as they approach and depart TDC compared to that of BDC.  That creates a series of pressure spikes as the crankshaft rotates.  That combined with blowby, the crank case has the tendency to have a lot of pressure that needs to be evacuated, which is typically vented through the valve covers.  Filling the valve covers with oil will provide additional restriction to crank case ventilation.  IMHO, I just don't feel that is the best way to go.

In a wet-sump, we put fittings, in both front and rear of the heads, located as low as possible.  The fittings in the pan are welded in adjacent to the main caps on the driver side of the block.  This locates the discharge on the side of the crankshaft where its rotation naturally helps to draw the oil out of lines.  The opposite side and the crankshaft rotation will shoot oil back up the return.  The vertical location is such that the return lines can not be covered by oil sloshing in the pan, even in a hard turn.
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1811 on: March 01, 2015, 06:59:15 PM »

Can't say I know anything specific to Oldsmobile, I can only share what I have specifically been exposed to.

The other thing I neglected to mention is that I hate oil leaks.  Having the oil level above the gasket sealing surface is an invitation for leaks.

Lastly, I try to consider airflow through the crank case.  Pistons move at different rates as they approach and depart TDC compared to that of BDC.  That creates a series of pressure spikes as the crankshaft rotates.  That combined with blowby, the crank case has the tendency to have a lot of pressure that needs to be evacuated, which is typically vented through the valve covers.  Filling the valve covers with oil will provide additional restriction to crank case ventilation.  IMHO, I just don't feel that is the best way to go.

In a wet-sump, we put fittings, in both front and rear of the heads, located as low as possible.  The fittings in the pan are welded in adjacent to the main caps on the driver side of the block.  This locates the discharge on the side of the crankshaft where its rotation naturally helps to draw the oil out of lines.  The opposite side and the crankshaft rotation will shoot oil back up the return.  The vertical location is such that the return lines can not be covered by oil sloshing in the pan, even in a hard turn.


Well alls I know is that I completely filled the valve covers last summer which in turn filled the puke tank and spilled over half a quart of oil all over my transom. But that was running very hard. A lot harder than a olds should be ran. I figure this can't hurt anything and I might as well do it while I have the motor pulled. It's not a race boat by any means just cruise it and like to run it hard every once in a while


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1812 on: March 01, 2015, 08:07:34 PM »
Fresh coat of shiny black on my lil turd bbc

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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1813 on: March 01, 2015, 09:27:14 PM »

In that Olds article that was written in Hot Boat, Timinator gave the dimensions on where to drill down to the 16th.
I guess tapping the valve cover would work, you'd just have to have a higher level of oil in the v.c. to have the drain work.

How would I go about finding those dimensions? I did a few google searches and came up with nothin


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1814 on: March 01, 2015, 09:48:16 PM »
Built motor today. Mock up on headers. Now they get black ceramic coating. Looking for a Holley 1850-3 to match the one I have.


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1815 on: March 01, 2015, 10:17:27 PM »
Changed out old fiberglass tanks to aluminum, put place diverter on and made a scoop tray


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1816 on: March 01, 2015, 10:47:10 PM »
Changed out old fiberglass tanks to aluminum, put place diverter on and made a scoop tray


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1817 on: March 01, 2015, 11:18:25 PM »
How would I go about finding those dimensions? I did a few google searches and came up with nothin


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I think it was the June 2006 issue. Maybe PM steves86ta. I know he has a copy.  :)
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1818 on: March 01, 2015, 11:40:24 PM »
How would I go about finding those dimensions? I did a few google searches and came up with nothin

I am sure that GlassCutter posted a PDF of that article, but I can't find it right now.  Here is the thread that I thought it was in

http://www.socaljetboats.com/index.php?topic=19370.0

I think I saved a copy of it.  I will look when I have access to my laptop.
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1819 on: March 02, 2015, 04:51:27 AM »
Just really came to relize that due to impending legal action upon me, that my old engine will be going back in my boat,, and the new shortblock will be going in a bag till i can get to it!!!!! Fml...lol

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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1820 on: March 02, 2015, 09:31:36 AM »
Timm's article linked on June/22/14 in a thread called "The Bible of 455 Olds building" or something like that.  Cant search to well on fone.
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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1821 on: March 03, 2015, 05:58:12 PM »
Got my oil returns setup today


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1822 on: March 03, 2015, 06:39:04 PM »
Got the Intake, Carbs, Dizzy, Linkage & Water plumbed.  Now just have to plumb fuel lines & wire the MSD 6AL box.
Should be fired up this weekend.


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1823 on: March 03, 2015, 07:00:19 PM »

Got my oil returns setup today


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Ended up going through the heads. Did you reference the article? I'm thinking of doing this before I put my olds back in the boat.


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Re: What did you do to your boat today?
« Reply #1824 on: March 03, 2015, 07:01:48 PM »

Ended up going through the heads. Did you reference the article? I'm thinking of doing this before I put my olds back in the boat.


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Yup i sacked up and went for it. The measurements in the article couldnt be more spot on. Just take your time.


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