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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #175 on: October 13, 2013, 09:43:00 PM »
Boat ran good. But anything over 30 mph and the water pressure would go above 15 even with the pressure relief valve back oit all the way. When id hammer down out of the hole it would max out the 30 psi guage. Would a gate valve help bring it down? Water temp neverrr goes above 110.

Not enough information to say exactly what you need....

What size is the outlet of the dump line?

You should always have a valve on the pump. Really no argument not to.

You are flirting with blowing a freeze plug (called Welch plugs). 

This is why I do not agree with the pressure relief valves... IT IS NOT FOOL PROOF.

I would install a gate valve in front of the relief and run it with the valve about half open and see where you end up.

So to potentially help you out more.

How large is the dump overboard fitting inside diameter?

approximately how much HP we dealing with?

How are your headers controlled?

Are you running a thermostat?

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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #176 on: October 14, 2013, 03:27:09 AM »
-10 from pump to a t that splits into -8s going into water pump plate one -10 out of intake manifold to over board one -8from intake to header valve at drivers seat then obviously back to headers. No thermostat. I think theres just too much water for that relief valve to handle. So im guessing that gate valve will limit the water flow and let that valve work better and keep the engine temp up
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #177 on: October 14, 2013, 05:50:00 AM »
Also hp is approx 450-500 i belive
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #178 on: October 14, 2013, 05:52:05 AM »
Some pics from yesterday and a pic of relief valve setup


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #179 on: October 14, 2013, 06:18:49 AM »
Well first problem i see is like Glenn said no gate valve. The valve serves two purposes, to shut off water incase of blown hoses and to adjust water flow which will also adjust pressure. And second, swap the regulator from the top of the t to the front of it. That way pressure is pushing on the regulator and not flowing right by it.


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #180 on: October 14, 2013, 07:38:12 AM »
-10 from pump to a t that splits into -8s going into water pump plate one -10 out of intake manifold to over board one -8from intake to header valve at drivers seat then obviously back to headers. No thermostat. I think theres just too much water for that relief valve to handle. So im guessing that gate valve will limit the water flow and let that valve work better and keep the engine temp up

How large is the actual port in the dump line overboard fitting? The easiest way to measure it is with a drill index. It should be about 3/8" to 7/16". And since you are not using an automatic header valve, you should have a gate to regulate incoming flow. What valve do you have to control header water?

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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #181 on: October 14, 2013, 08:04:07 AM »
Its a rex marine valve for the headers. I also have the basset t but i use the rex valve just because inhabe a tall cam and dont waant to worry about reversion. And the dump fitting is a 1/2 npt to -10 adapter  so im guessing 7/16
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #182 on: October 14, 2013, 10:20:03 AM »
Its a rex marine valve for the headers. I also have the basset t but i use the rex valve just because inhabe a tall cam and dont waant to worry about reversion. And the dump fitting is a 1/2 npt to -10 adapter  so im guessing 7/16

You have two possible fixes.

The easiest is to install a gate valve.

The other is to install an aluminum plug in the pipe coming if the pump suction housing and drilling it out to 1/4". This will reduce the flow to very close to where you need to be, but be warned that it can plug fairly easily with debris and cause an overheat and you still can't shut off the water if a hose gets burnt/blown off.

The valve is more serviceable and adjustable, since you took the factory hose connector off the pump, there is too much water entering the engine. The original hose barb in the pump was 3/8"mpt x 5/8"hose and had a .230" hole in it, you now have a .375" hole and this is way to much water to try and deal with.

Go buy a Red and White threaded gate valve and be done with it. You will likely have to get a 1/2" valve and a couple of bushings, I use 3/4" valves.

Jmho

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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #183 on: October 14, 2013, 11:05:52 AM »
Def gunna go with the gate valve. Gunna pick one up on my way to the river this weekend and test it out and also move the relief valve like stated above.
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #184 on: October 21, 2013, 05:05:20 PM »
Gate valve worked pressure is about 10 while cruising and up to 15 at wot. Still milkshaked the oil tho. Only thing left is head gaskets right?
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #185 on: October 21, 2013, 07:34:41 PM »
Wait don't pull heads what kind of intake are u running.


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #186 on: October 21, 2013, 07:35:44 PM »
Tunnel ram dual carb
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #187 on: October 21, 2013, 07:36:09 PM »

Wait don't pull heads what kind of intake are u running.


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #188 on: October 21, 2013, 07:37:00 PM »

Wait don't pull heads what kind of intake are u running.


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I just changed intake and timing cover gaskets. Used good felpro stuff
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #189 on: October 21, 2013, 07:48:33 PM »
What kind of motor.


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #190 on: October 21, 2013, 07:55:49 PM »
Pm sent


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #191 on: October 21, 2013, 08:03:57 PM »
Ok that's fine I'm a 455 owner too had the same problem call me tommrow. I think your gate valve is open to much.


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #192 on: October 21, 2013, 08:10:10 PM »

Ok that's fine I'm a 455 owner too had the same problem call me tommrow. I think your gate valve is open to much.


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Hmm really? Ive got the pressure down to about 12psi according to the guage i put on the intake
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #193 on: October 21, 2013, 08:31:46 PM »
That's wrong take the gauge off and put it inline with your gate valve I'm telling when u are done with dinner call me also pressure relief valve get rid of it u don't need it. Too many things to worry about.


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #194 on: October 22, 2013, 01:36:39 AM »
Thats good Pressure inside your motor (You don't want more)  Is that WOT?

however with your Gate valve you still have too much water volume enterting your block if it is still mikshake inside your oil

A relief setup might be your next step if all else fails.  It worked for me

This is a hot topic and probly the most asked question your gonna get alot of opinions.
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #195 on: October 22, 2013, 05:48:22 AM »

Thats good Pressure inside your motor (You don't want more)  Is that WOT?

however with your Gate valve you still have too much water volume enterting your block if it is still mikshake inside your oil

A relief setup might be your next step if all else fails.  It worked for me

This is a hot topic and probly the most asked question your gonna get alot of opinions.

I also got a relief valve after the gate valve
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #196 on: October 25, 2013, 02:53:59 PM »
Now I can't get the damn thing to start to flush it with clean oil! Tried a new distributor cap. It starting doing this at the river. After I'd get it fired up it wouldn't be a problem but starting it cold took forever. Now it won't start at all in my driveway. Any ideas?
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #197 on: October 25, 2013, 06:17:08 PM »
Is it loading up with gas when you turn it off   My boat had something wrong with the carb and would leak gas into the motor when turned off .would be a complete pain to start after it sat for a bit


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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #198 on: October 25, 2013, 06:23:16 PM »
Its possible these carbs are freshly rebuilt but are a little "weathered". Had a few external fuel leaks when i first put them on. What was leaking on yours?
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Re: 74 hallett
« Reply #199 on: October 25, 2013, 06:36:07 PM »

Its possible these carbs are freshly rebuilt but are a little "weathered". Had a few external fuel leaks when i first put them on. What was leaking on yours?
the floats were stuck because the pressure regulator was set to high


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