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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2008, 02:46:36 PM »
Quote from: COORS HEAVY on January 21, 2008, 02:38:06 PM
Posted on: Today at 01:49:51 PMPosted by: COORS HEAVY 
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What are they going to think of next a fake blown big block you can put over a out board. Im sorry i don't like the looks of a fake injector hat sitting on top of carbs. If you want the real deal go get the real thing, but to each your own. I mean disrespect  CORRECTION I MEAN "NO" DISRESPECT


LMAO!!!  I kinda thought you did a typo!   ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2008, 02:47:58 PM »
Quote from: FORKEDUP on January 21, 2008, 02:43:56 PM
so what kind of scoops are the cool kids running ??? ;D

Those 40 gallon shop vacs that you have to tie down to keep the motor from being blown out of the boat.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2008, 02:50:08 PM »
Quote from: pw_Tony on January 21, 2008, 02:44:05 PM
I like it. Just looks more racey to me. My favorite is the slash cut dual scoop, but these have enough air to flow around on idle. Sometimes the linkage can be tricky though.



The in the photo at the start of this thread is like your only for a single 4 bbl and shorter.
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2008, 03:19:54 PM »
Quote from: GAWnCA on January 21, 2008, 02:47:58 PM
Those 40 gallon shop vacs that you have to tie down to keep the motor from being blown out of the boat.  ;D ;D ;D

damn, my shop vac is yellow, it won't match the boat, more f'n money i have to spend ;D
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2008, 03:21:52 PM »
Quote from: FORKEDUP on January 21, 2008, 03:19:54 PM
damn, my shop vac is yellow, it won't match the boat, more f'n money i have to spend ;D

Maybe you can duct tape some 5 gallon buckets together and make that work.  I always laugh when I see these race boats that have a bigger intake scoop than motor under it to breath in all that air.  LMAO!!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Here's what I'm talking about...


See you could hide a big outboard under that thing!!!
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2008, 04:59:35 PM »
Those big scoops will provide a bit of positive pressure, and can actually increase performance some - assuming they don't take in water. Water doesn't burn too well.

Reminds me - last week I saw the old car that had a small block chevy in it. No issue, right? Well the spark plug wires went straight down the center of the valve covers, just like a HEMI.  Undercloser inspection I realized that this SB had a valve cover that was two piece - the one that actually held the oil in, and one that bolted to it, complete with a front of the engine drop down plate, that sure made it look like a 392 MOPAR HEMI....

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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2008, 05:13:07 PM »
Quote from: COORS HEAVY on January 21, 2008, 01:49:51 PM
What are they going to think of next a fake blown big block you can put over a out board. Im sorry i don't like the looks of a fake injector hat sitting on top of carbs. If you want the real deal go get the real thing, but to each your own. I mean disrespect



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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2008, 05:57:22 PM »
This is what the cool kids run!!!

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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2008, 06:02:39 PM »
....but now your headers r on backwards
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2008, 06:04:47 PM »
squirt squirt squirt!!!
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2008, 06:05:12 PM »
How about this one. This is a BDS bugcatcher one that they converted for EFI. It has the center plate only acting as as throttle body. The outer 2 butterflys are blocked off. I machined the lower plate and I also will machine holes for injectors as well as the fuel rails.
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2008, 06:11:18 PM »
This is what the BIG BOYS run!!!  You know, the ones with real balls.

 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2008, 06:21:40 PM »
This ones got 16 injectors and all three butterflies are functional. What size motor are you running? I have been considering EFI for the boat.
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2008, 06:35:23 PM »
That one on that car has a BDS plate machined for 16 injectors. That allows you to run lower Lb/Hr injectors (i.e high impedence stock ECM stuff). The BDS stuff is very high $$. As for 3 butterflys being open I bet the driveablility is not that good. I am running a 461 BBC roller cam, Brodix heads..etc. I am sticking with 8 injectors and running the Thruster EFI system and low impedence injectors. The 16 hole plate was developed many years ago and at that time they did not have higher flowing injectors as are available today. Sorry for the highjack.
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2008, 06:43:09 PM »
Quote from: TJS Nordic on January 21, 2008, 06:35:23 PM
That one on that car has a BDS plate machined for 16 injectors. That allows you to run lower Lb/Hr injectors (i.e high impedence stock ECM stuff). The BDS stuff is very high $$. As for 3 butterflys being open I bet the driveablility is not that good. I am running a 461 BBC roller cam, Brodix heads..etc. I am sticking with 8 injectors and running the Thruster EFI system and low impedence injectors. The 16 hole plate was developed many years ago and at that time they did not have higher flowing injectors as are available today. Sorry for the highjack.
T.J.

I'm interested in running four injectors in a Hilborn four port, Your right, that is a BDS, Mike Kuhl birdcatcher...
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2008, 06:46:11 PM »
Quote from: HDriderTH on January 21, 2008, 06:43:09 PM
I'm interested in running four injectors in a Hilborn four port, Your right, that is a BDS, Mike Kuhl birdcatcher...

I remember reading somewhere about the hilborn 4 port on some message board. Do a google on it and see what you come up with. It was some rodder forum.
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #41 on: January 21, 2008, 08:08:18 PM »
The bases that come with those scoops leak a lot of air and because of that the scoop wouldn't work for a choke effect. I think they're bitchin, but it's totaly a IMO kind of thing. I've seen a lot of scoops I hate that other's like and vice versa, etc...
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2008, 12:58:28 PM »
I LIKE THE HILBORN SCOPPS WITH THE RIBS ON TOP LIKE THE ONE HD HAS IN FIRST OF HIS TWO PICS. ALSO THE BASSETT OR DOOLEY SCOOPS
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2008, 01:20:04 PM »
Personally I dig the old velocity stacks , way better than scoops!
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2008, 01:34:54 PM »
I have a guilty pleasure...

the old school nicsons....they look good on a single carb setup....but are damn sexy if you got two in a row....  ::)

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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2008, 01:36:54 PM »
Heres a few boats with the dual setup in this old berkeley ad....

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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2008, 01:40:54 PM »
Quote from: Brad @ SoCalJetBoats.com on January 22, 2008, 01:34:54 PM
I have a guilty pleasure...

the old school nicsons....they look good on a single carb setup....but are damn sexy if you got two in a row....  ::)



Looks WAY COOL on 3 duces!!
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2008, 05:21:21 PM »
Quote from: GAWnCA on January 21, 2008, 06:11:18 PM
This is what the BIG BOYS run!!!  You know, the ones with real balls.

 ;D ;D ;D
That is what the boys with the FAT WALLETS run!!
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2008, 05:37:36 PM »
It seems a common opinion is that those fake "fuel injected" scoops shoulnd't be used except for an anchor because they are "fake".

I'm wondering what is less "fake" on these trick bad asssed new modern fuel injection systems some guys are stuffing into the "fake" scoops. They aren't the real thing either so it must be about how much you spend on the "fake" set-up that makes it cool...  ???  ... because I've only seen maybe 5 people on this board that actually have the "real thing".

I think it's complete crap and ball-less to trash other people's sh!t on the web.   :o  I also think it's complete crap and ball-less to trash other peoples sh!t when you got the same thing sitting in your garage.

I think only cars should have velocity stacks, although flames shooting out of them do look really cool.

I don't know who actually made them but those old school Nicson ( ?? )  scoops are bitchin on the right boat. One problem with them is you can't run them on three dueces because most dueces are two barrels (duece = two) and have different air cleaner base diameter's.   :D

I gotta go, I'm late on taking my meds...   :P
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Re: Carb Scoops
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2008, 05:45:26 PM »
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