getting ready for ming

« **on:** February 09, 2008, 06:24:17 PM »

went over to pops house this morning to asses the situation, this is how we left it after the parker race. it hasn't been touched since.

we pulled the v/c to see if there was any moisture and to run the valves

the white stuff you see is moisture, it probably would have burned off but we wanted to clean as much as we could got.

it sure was hot today

a little wd-40 to help lube things before we fired it, as well we pulled the dizzy and primed the oil system

i got a new fuel pressure reg for x-mas

and the dreaded task of removing the drive shaft before starting

man i hate doing that

and she lives

man i love this engine

« **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2008, 06:27:34 PM »

Sounds to me like your ready. Way to go Ralph. Glad to pops is up and at em. See you in a few weeks.

Bob

« **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2008, 10:59:22 PM »

KICK ASS!! See you @ the races, let me know what you want to do with those 460 parts.

« **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2008, 05:34:33 AM »

Quote from: Luckie Stiff on February 09, 2008, 10:59:22 PM

KICK ASS!! See you @ the races, let me know what you want to do with those 460 parts.

shit skip i forgot to call you, will do today

« **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2008, 08:58:16 AM »

Ah man Ralph, that looks and sounds killer. Care to spill the beans on the specs of that motor?

« **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2008, 09:50:18 AM »

nice!

« **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2008, 11:16:31 AM »

Sounds healthy still

« **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2008, 06:10:01 PM »

No poppin spittin hissin or backfiring at WOT with this one....

« **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2008, 06:55:26 PM »

Quote from: UNDONE on February 10, 2008, 06:10:01 PM

No poppin spittin hissin or backfiring at WOT with this one....

That only seems to happen with Jim Rich's boat.

« **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2008, 02:36:11 PM »

Quote from: jrork on February 10, 2008, 08:58:16 AM

Ah man Ralph, that looks and sounds killer. Care to spill the beans on the specs of that motor?

460/502 scat rotating assy j/e forged pistons (flat top) out of the box tfs street heads 2.20 intake 1.76 valves, 1.73 rockers, jomar stud girdle, custom solid roller 660ish lift, edelbrock victor man, 1150 dom on a 2inch spacer, clay smith mech fuel pump, msd ignition.
an honest 600

« **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2008, 05:52:24 PM »

Looks good Ralph, I'm going to try to personally attend more races this season.

See you there,

LO

« **Reply #11 on:** February 12, 2008, 08:05:57 AM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 11, 2008, 02:36:11 PM

460/502 scat rotating assy j/e forged pistons (flat top) out of the box tfs street heads 2.20 intake 1.76 valves, 1.73 rockers, jomar stud girdle, custom solid roller 660ish lift, edelbrock victor man, 1150 dom on a 2inch spacer, clay smith mech fuel pump, msd ignition.
an honest 600

What duration is your camshaft?

« **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2008, 09:13:06 AM »

Quote from: hotrod56cars on February 12, 2008, 08:05:57 AM

What duration is your camshaft?

cant tell ya,

« **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2008, 12:28:07 PM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 12, 2008, 09:13:06 AM

cant tell ya,

Ah come on man

how is my Chevy supposed to breathe as good as your Ford

with the bigger ports and all when I don't even know your cam's duration? According to the race results you're the one to beat!

« **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2008, 12:39:25 PM »

Quote from: hotrod56cars on February 12, 2008, 12:28:07 PM

Ah come on man how is my Chevy supposed to breathe as good as your Ford with the bigger ports and all when I don't even know your cam's duration? According to the race results you're the one to beat!

rod, the specs are useless to anybody unless they have the same combo, because the cam is a custom for my combo. not to mention there is another ford out there that may try to get his motor to run a little better by using my specs

edit: and i'm not talking about Brad, i have a roller that i took out if he want to try it

« **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2008, 12:48:24 PM »

hey ralph, how do they figure out lane choice for the races? i know the newbys hang back and are on the outside but what about the vets?

« **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2008, 12:52:27 PM »

Drwaw straws.

« **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2008, 12:53:18 PM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 12, 2008, 12:39:25 PM

rod, the specs are useless to anybody unless they have the same combo, because the cam is a custom for my combo. not to mention there is another ford out there that may try to get his motor to run a little better by using my specs

edit: and i'm not talking about Brad, i have a roller that i took out if he want to try it

Yea I didn't think of that... probably not a good idea for someone to post up their entire engine's specs if they wanted to stay number 1...

I was just trying to figure how big of a cam it takes to make that much normally aspirated HP, since I am clueless. I saw a cam last night that had 810 lift on it and something like 320 duration at 050.

Makes me wonder when the valves actually close

« **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2008, 01:14:07 PM »

rod, it's no real secret, and engine is nothing more than an air pump and it can only take in and get out so much. so i sent the flow #'s from the heads along with the eng specs to chris straub of stephs oil pans and he did some ghetto math and came up with what i have

« **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2008, 01:18:09 PM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 12, 2008, 12:39:25 PM

edit: and i'm not talking about Brad, i have a roller that i took out if he want to try it

If its not good enuf for you then....

Brads engine is gonna do just dandy with the hydraulic flat tap. From what I've read in the past it takes a whole lot of exhaust work on the factory iron ford heads to take advantage of a .600+ roller.

BTW, the engine sound great Ralph.

« **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2008, 01:23:23 PM »

:UPDATED:

Just called the shop that ground the cam...

Some perspective for ya Rod. My old 460 with 618RWHP had a .680 lift by 320 intake ~~318~~ actually 314 exhaust duration. The duration actually sacrificed A LOT of power but at the same time gave it a nasty lope with the idle below 1000 RPMs. I intended for the truck to be more of a show mobile than anything but ended up liking it way too much. Nothing like the feeling of roasting oversized tires and keeping up with a stock '04 Z06.
Cam grinder seems to think another 30 HP could have easily been had if the duration wasn't so wild.

« **Reply #21 on:** February 12, 2008, 02:05:37 PM »

Quote from: Josh@JBP on February 12, 2008, 01:18:09 PM

... From what I've read in the past it takes a whole lot of exhaust work on the factory iron ford heads to take advantage of a .600+ roller.

BTW, the engine sound great Ralph.

But Chevy's intake ports are smaller.

« **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2008, 10:23:53 AM »

Quote from: Ralph Brunt on February 12, 2008, 09:13:06 AM

cant tell ya,

I bet it's less than 340 and bigger than 200 :-)

« **Reply #23 on:** February 13, 2008, 10:40:25 AM »

Quote from: speedymopars on February 13, 2008, 10:23:53 AM

I bet it's less than 340 and bigger than 200 :-)

less than 300

« **Reply #24 on:** February 13, 2008, 12:14:10 PM »

The grinder that did my cam recommended 280ish but the lope of the 300+ is just awesome sounding with the hydraulic roller setup.

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