MSD or Mallory ?

« **Reply #25 on:** May 03, 2012, 09:32:14 PM »

Quote from: jetjunky101 on May 03, 2012, 08:38:02 PM

should of posted in GT's newbie thred.....

Shaa, duh...

I picked one of these up a while back, gonna try it on our deck boat... http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/flame/dist/billet_marine.aspx

Looks like a nice piece to me, mechanical advance and a 2 1/2 year warranty on the electronics... Looks real purdy too, the body is actually nicer looking than my MSD Pro Billet.

If memory serves (rarely does) It was less than $200 with a 40KV coil on special from Goody's Speed Shop.

GT

« **Reply #26 on:** May 04, 2012, 07:31:48 AM »

thanks GT for the info
but i ran out of time and i went with MSD ...so i will see how that works for me
gota be better than my rusty old mallory that i towed 600 miles and no worky

« **Reply #27 on:** May 04, 2012, 10:29:33 AM »

do i need to use an ignition box with this thing?

« **Reply #28 on:** May 04, 2012, 05:52:09 PM »

ok so i got evrything ...and ignition box

but when i turn the key to the start postion it cranks....then let off the start to run postion....and then it starts

any ideas what the heck that is

need some help guys tryin to get on the water
thanks

« **Reply #29 on:** May 04, 2012, 06:07:09 PM »

my buddy just told me it was the ballest res....i took it out of play cuz the dumb a** that told me i didnt need the ignition box...told me i didnt need it ....could this be the issue ?

« **Reply #30 on:** May 04, 2012, 06:28:18 PM »

I dunno about MSD, but on a Mallory system with a 6AL Hyfire, the ballast resistor is not needed/eliminated, provided you're running a compatible coil (Mallory #29440, other Mallory coils are NOT compatible with Hyfire). If running a Unilite or Magnetic Breakerless (IE- YLM Marine) without the box, then the ballast resistor IS needed regardless of coil, or you'll burn the coil up.

I would assume MSD is similar. Prolly best to make a few phone calls with the part numbers you have and hear it straight from the horses mouth though.

Ray

« **Reply #31 on:** May 04, 2012, 06:36:38 PM »

yha its the 6A MSD..and coil and the hole set up....hooked the ballest res back up and same dealio

« **Reply #32 on:** May 04, 2012, 11:37:06 PM »

Quote from: jetjunky101 on May 04, 2012, 05:52:09 PM

ok so i got evrything ...and ignition box but when i turn the key to the start postion it cranks....then let off the start to run postion....and then it starts
any ideas what the heck that is

need some help guys tryin to get on the water
thanks

You most likely have the power wire that goes to the ignition box from the key switch wired wrong, you probably connected to a 12v power wire that when you are cranking it temporarily pulls voltage away and the when you let off the key it gets 12v back, that's why it fires.

Test (with volt meter or test light ) the power wire that is going to the box from the key switch while you or a buddy cranks it over and see if the voltage drops temporarily. If it does, look on the key switch for a second 12v "out" wire or (12v in the "start" position not the "on" position) and switch the wire to that position. hope that helps!

« **Reply #33 on:** May 05, 2012, 08:54:53 AM »

yha thanks ..thats what i thought it was and changed wire and then nothing...

anyways update...i felt like i got scamed...when i ask all the ? b4 i purchesed anything !!! and the paper work in the box didnt say anything about "you must use a ignition box" nowhere!!!
so i took all of it back and got my money back!!!

no water for me

« **Reply #34 on:** May 05, 2012, 09:12:41 AM »

Dunno if it's BBC, BBF or Olds, but just bite the bullet and pick up a Mallory system. You won't be sorry. I personally like running the 6AL HyFire box, (Mal #6853M). For BBC, either the Unilite #3748201, or the YLM Magnetic Breakerless Marine, #YLM624AV, and Pro Coil #29440. BBF dizzy's are Unilite #3756701, or YLM # is YLM567EV. I'm more a fan of the YLM's in an enclosed engine compartment, otherwise the Unilite, but to each his own.

You'd have a kick ass ignition setup with that. Same part numbers work fine without the box, but you will need the ballast resistor.

Ray

« **Reply #35 on:** May 09, 2012, 07:12:31 PM »

thank you ...Ray....and UPS ...
bad thing is....its gota go back

the wires about 1/2 in from houseing is crimped bad...i see wire....
owell finaly in the right direction....i guess

« **Reply #36 on:** May 09, 2012, 08:33:58 PM »

Jeez, how the hell did they do that?

You are seemingly absorbing bad luck from the rest of us brother! Thank you!!!

Obviously, BBC from what I see. Good choice, and not going HEI !

. I'm not a fan of HEI anyway in anything, (well, I MIGHT try one in a lawn mower......

) but located in the extreme top rear of a jet boat?

Yeah, good luck!! Been there and done that! (damn thing.......) You guys that are doing it, I dunno how........

Ray

« **Reply #37 on:** May 09, 2012, 09:20:41 PM »

haha .......your welcome guys ...my bad luck is good enough 4 evryone!!!

i have plenty of CL'S 4 pain killers ...

and i didnt like the HEI set up ......but i did get to cut and buff my lawn mower this weekend ....

« **Reply #38 on:** May 10, 2012, 10:40:45 AM »

what a f-ing joke!!! i guess my money wasnt green enough for the first 3 guys to help me....
so the forth guy made it very easy....just return it and we will replace it...

duhhh
i just dont get some people some times......the dam thing looked like it had been around for ever...and mabe evan installed once or twice
so they said i had 2 call mallory direct...so i did ...and guess what ...the last time they orderd that part was sept of 2011

« **Reply #39 on:** May 10, 2012, 12:44:38 PM »

Quote from: GT Jets on May 03, 2012, 09:32:14 PM

Shaa, duh...

I picked one of these up a while back, gonna try it on our deck boat... http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/flame/dist/billet_marine.aspx

Looks like a nice piece to me, mechanical advance and a 2 1/2 year warranty on the electronics... Looks real purdy too, the body is actually nicer looking than my MSD Pro Billet.

If memory serves (rarely does) It was less than $200 with a 40KV coil on special from Goody's Speed Shop.

GT

I've been running a pertronix flame thrower hei for over 3 years in my chevelle. Its been wet( no fenderwells) been exposed to sun for almost a year (no hood) and has had some major vibrations (slamming the front end down) and not one problem. It went through three msd dizzy in 5 months before switching. And I picked it up for 150 ish from J&M speed center in riverside. And their customer service is great. That alone was worth the switch.

Fat fingered from the phone - Corey

« **Reply #40 on:** May 10, 2012, 01:10:33 PM »

man im sorry! sounds like you cant win. hell join the club!!!!thats what we should do form a new club.the i cant win club. socalpsd is right though hei or pertronix is a simple drop in.

« **Reply #41 on:** May 10, 2012, 02:09:30 PM »

thats the club 4 me !!! but its all good ...i just have 2 wait a week or so for the "new" one

thats what i thought i bought

the funny thing is...this is the same crap i just went though (not knowing how long the part was on the shelf) and i asked them...is this a stock item...they said yes

but after speaking with mallory i now know this not 2 be true....

guess im just gona have to take my money elsewhere....

« **Reply #42 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:35:10 PM »

so update.....8 days and ups shows up..

and this is what they replaced the crimped wire dizzy with

« **Reply #43 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:51:21 PM »

they sent you another one with crimped wires?

or did they just send you back the same one?

« **Reply #44 on:** May 18, 2012, 06:56:49 PM »

this ones worse!!! it been 8 days ..and they opened the box and put there packing material in and then sent it to me...

BBB HERE I COME ...im pissed......CPPERFORMANCE!!!

« **Reply #45 on:** May 18, 2012, 07:05:11 PM »

call them/ first se what they are willing to do. this is where the free stuff comes out. when you call ask to speak to a supervisor . calmly as possible explain what has happened, and that you want this taken care of as well as something for your time that this has now waisted! and just to hit it home to that supervisor you can ask are you in the business of selling crap parts??? cause this is now twice that i have been given a part that i cannot use!

« **Reply #46 on:** May 18, 2012, 07:11:03 PM »

oh i here you 100% i,ve been on the phone with "jimmy" over there and on the phone with mallory a few times....sounds like a bunch of crap....they evan told me it was gona be drop shipped from mallory
guess what...it came from them!!! so i dont know where there getting there parts.... but they still have my money!!!

« **Reply #47 on:** May 18, 2012, 07:18:00 PM »

you talked to mallory??? wow you need a supervisor. they make decisions. and will be able to see that you are trying to resolve this.

« **Reply #48 on:** May 18, 2012, 08:44:03 PM »

yep "bob" at mallory deals with all CP's orders....its not like i cant fix it....

but 2 drop 3 bills on a part that has 2 be fixed

the funny thing is this is not the only company i've had these kind of prob's with lately.....

mabe it is better to buy from china

« **Reply #49 on:** May 18, 2012, 09:57:05 PM »

Na i would not go that far. you just got into that string of bad luck. and hell no you should never have to fix something you just bought!!! id just let them know this is the last time and if they dont get it right , your done and youll bad mouth them.

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